I find it amusing how "critics" can nitpick such a powerful, perfect ending to one of the most ambitious film series
of all time. I find it even more amusing when your average person criticizes the film for what is actually it's
biggest strengths (pacing for instance).
What Nolan has managed to do with this film is simply breathtaking, and it should be praised for the 99% of
things it does right, instead of being torn apart under a microscope by the 1% of "wrong" people claim it does.
The Dark Knight Rises is an epic experience like no other. Period.
A lot of hype around this film, i thought it was ok, but nowhere near as good as "the dark knight".
Like may others have said - Banes speech's were hard to understand due to voice heavily muffled by mask.
Not enough batman.
The ending was too similar to inception (which is a fantastic 10/10 film) he clearly tried to do the same and i dont think it has worked.
did Alfred ever see Selinas face during the film? could be why he didnt at the very end also? (inception sytyle)
I hated the way Bane was defeated.
Not enough Gordan (he got shot in the leg i think) nice addition of "robin" - shame its the end of the trilogy, point of adding him?
The film was good from the beginning up to Batmans inprisonment. After that it starts to unravel and fall apart.
Spoiller:
I would have liked to have seen bruce wayne / batmans recovery and return in a bit more detail. the prison in the hole went by way to quickly.
The whole background story of bringing down Bruce Wayne / Wayne enterprises is a little far fetched & weak, especially since this is 8 years after Batman hung up his cape.
First, Bane just really didn't do anything for me. I thought he was extremely intimidating, strong and definitely
over matched Bman, which I loved, but honestly, I hated his voice. It just sounded so goofy. And to be honest
again, I could hardly understand anything he was saying. It was absolutely awful. Maybe it was the theater I
was in, but it was so hard to understand every word. I would catch a few words here and there, but I was
really upset when he would make long speeches because I just felt out of the loop. My girlfriend said the same
thing. She said it was hard to understand him, and she though he sounded pretty goofy. I know I might get some
flame for that, but honestly, it was really disappointing every time he was talking on screen. I definitely think
that will improve if I see it 1 or 2 more times.
Okay, besides that, I thought the movie was good. It didn't exceed my expectations, considering I didn't have a
lot anyways, but I was happy how it ended. I guess I felt a little disappointed walking out of the theater
because the whole 'Bane voice' thingy probably dampened my experience, but I enjoyed just about everything
else.
Anne was terrific as Catwoman/Selina. Everytime she was on screen, she just made the film so much better.
Humor, sexy, sassy. JGL was just as good. He had a lot of screen time, but overall I really like his character. My
girlfriend kept raving about him afterwards. I'm glad he didn't feel like some cop just thrown into the mix and
did nothing. He was there for a purpose, a purpose that I loved. And his relationship with Bruce was awesome. I
think Tom Hardy did a great job with Bane. Like I said, he was very intimidating (when he didn't talk). I liked his
look. Very gritty. But his voice was just awful in my opinion. Sorry. The regular cast, Bale, Freeman, Oldman and
Caine were all great, of course, like always. I wish we would of gotten more Oldman, but oh well.
The ending! Wow! Incredible! One of the best endings I've ever seen in a film, and probably the best in a CBM.
I figured Miranda was Talia (from rumors). So the twist wasn't unexpected. Then...Bruce died ...I remember a lot
of the rumors swirling about Batman dying, so I wasn't really surprised. I just didn't think Nolan would really do it.
But once I saw Alfred at the cafe, I knew he would look up and see Bruce. I thought it would of been perfect if
he just looked up, smiled and *cut to credits*, so I was surprised but happy and relieved that they showed
Bruce and Selina together *goosebumps* The ending with JGL was amazing as well. I had a huge smile on my
face when she said, "You should use your full name, I like it...Robin." How perfect. My logic is that he probably
wouldn't become Robin or Batman and fight crime, but just his name being Robin was Nolan giving the Robin
name some respect. Much like the scene in The Amazing Spider-Man where Peter falls through the roof and into
the wrestling ring. Just Webb giving some respect to Spidey's wrestling ways from the comics. But hey, with JGL
in the Batcave and such, I guess Nolan just left it up to our minds to create what we want.
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Overall, I thought it was good. I hope by seeing it again, it will be better, and easier to understand Bane. I
think that's the only reason I thought this film was only good. So with a better understanding of him, this movie
could be great...let's hope
It was well done I must say but it was to long I think. Entirely to much Bruce Wayne and not enough Batman. As others have said, Banes voice was annoying. You could understand every other word at best. (Watch the bluray in December with subtitles on!)
I loved Batman Begins and especially The Dark Knight and was looking forward to this movie like never before. Unfortunately, Dark Knight Rises didnt do for me what the other 2 did before it. I was expecting a sequel to The Dark Knight, or at least another story plot, instead I got Batman Begins 1.5. Same movie, a few different characters. I am not pleased at all.
I'm probably the odd one out. I thought this movie lacked quite a bit. The Dark Knight was far better. Even Batman Begins was better. Let me see if I can put my thoughts to words ...
Alfred turning against Bruce? C'mon. Really? The stalwart defender and supporter of Bruce decides to leave him? Sorry, but that just didn't do it for me.
Bane and Batman's first fight seemed decent enough. But, Bruce having a broken back, then coming back to defeat Bane in months? Speaking of which, their fight at the end was far less than spectacular. It was boring to me. Then, instead of Batman claiming any kind of victory, it's Catwoman who takes out Bane. Tasted like dirt.
Where's Arkam Asylum? The real prison. I don't think it was mentioned at all. Instead we got a generic prison?
The whole "Robin" character throughout the movie was just distracting to me. It would have been better to focus more on Gordon as the role between him and Batman was built up in the first two movies. This one hardly had anything on that.
I couldn't understand most of what Bane said in the movie. Nice to have a mask, but they could have cleared up his voice for the movie. Sort of disappointing when you can't understand a main character in the film.
Overall, it was all the little things that kept adding up that made me disappointed with this film. While the first two were great, this one seemed to have gotten the "Hollywood" treatment and it suffers for it.
With all that said, don't get me wrong, there were good things about the film. I don't think it was horrible. But it was definitely the weakest of the three movies.
Absolutely Brilliant.....operatic brilliance, everything was perfectly balanced scope, story, acting and action. Now release the Bluray with IMAX transitions please Warner. Go and enjoy the stellar conclusion to Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy.
I personally think, this wasn't as edgy in terms of plot or as suspenseful like 2008's The Dark Knight, but its still
a very good movie! This is essentially a 'Bruce Wayne Returns' story, and how he finally manages to climb up
the well on his own, without anyone pulling him up, without any physical support( Loved Nolan's Lazarus Pit).
This is a story of psychological victory against odds, against inner demons, against fear, against death.
Christian Bale was wonderful as the troubled, tormented and broken Bruce Wayne. It is actually in this film that
Bruce truly becomes the Batman!
Tom Hardy radiates a killer confidence in the role. He's deadly in a serenely sinister way! That scene where he
rests his fingers on Dagget's neck, stroking it, was bone-chilling. And then I am glad they changed the voice of
Bane from its original tone. The new voice has a lot of character(Sounded Sean Conneryish in the
beginning).His death seemed to me practical yes, but not as grand or poignant as it should've been.
Anne Hathaway was brilliant!!!
So was Joseph Gordon Levitt!!! A shining Knight at the end of the Tunnel!
Gary Oldman, Michael Caine, and Morgan Freeman, were as usual, and even more so in some respects,
great in their roles!
Marion Cotillard was somewhat of a disappointment to me! We didn't see any fineness in her performance as
we probably deserved( Especially after such a powerful performance as Edith Piaf) Even in Inception(2010) she
was more interesting! Here she seemed bland, even in the most climactic moments.
Cillian Murphy was a nice Surprise, and so was Liam Neeson!
Didn't miss The Joker, all because of the way Chris Nolan draws us into the current scenario. But who can forget
Heath Ledger? No one !!!
I went to watch TDKR first day second show at 12.15 pm . They took up a lot of time cleaning the auditorium(
previously an IMAX screen , now the top and bottom part is folded down to make it look like scope). A huge
anticipation was building to the point of a frenzy. And when the gates were opened people screamed in
delight, as if they've conquered something! all throughout the movie people screamed and clapped and hooted
and whistled! It was a great mad mad experience!
The second viewing was at an Imax theatre. I have to say I didn't enjoy it as much as I would've liked to. The
aspect ratio shift was jarring, and many of the IMAX shots didn't quite have that 'vast' immersive effect as it
should have. Some of the shots like the overhead city shots, or the action sequences, or the Wall street scene
looked Good, but I personally feel that IMAX was overused in scenes that didn't need it. Like when Selina Kyle
trades Bruce's fingerprints to Dagget's men and the big fight ensues. Or when Gordon arrives on scene and
decides to enter the manwhole risking his life, these scenes didn't require IMAX! But I was glad there was no
annoying subtitle on screen (robs the experience in my opinion).
Finally, I am thankful to Nolan for crafting such a wonderfully poignant, but at the same time crowd-pleasing
moral tale, that will be remembered as long as Batman Lives.
P.S: Did any of you notice the subtle Christ allegory in the movie, just like in Superman Returns - Batman is
stabbed at the sides; he's betrayed
by a person he trusted, just like Judas; he takes the fall for other's crimes; dies redeeming Gotham/World. And
finally we find him alive secretly, elsewhere, having settled down , even though to the world he is dead and has
become a symbol. Just like Christ was secretly healed after the Crucifixion by his close friends, he came and
settled down in Kashmir(where his Tomb is present) and became a symbol as the saviour-martyr to the world!
Nice!!!
Have to agree with Mad7334, I think those who nitpick this movie are ridiculously insane. I mean, what more can you expect from a movie of this magnitude directed by who is arguably one of the best directors in movies today? For those who couldn't understand Bane, maybe a better sound system would help. He was as clear as any other actor in the film. Maybe the fact that you could see his mouth while he spoke had something to do with this. This is the only series, trilogy.......etc that for me got better with each installment. Nothing else has done this IMO. This movie flowed so well that after what felt like one hour turned into two. Maybe this is why a lot of time wasn't spent with Wayne in prison....10 minutes of that was plenty for me and it didn't hinder the flow. Some people will complain simply because of the price tag in making the film and how it puts to shame most other movies of the same topic. To all the people complaining about this movie, maybe the Joker said it best, "You did not disappoint". There's always someone in the crowd who has to open his/her mouth and try to make life miserable for everyone else......Geez, it's just a movie, people! And if the world gross figures say anything about the film then it deserves a 10, more than a billion dollars so far and counting. And Christopher Nolan, who else has the b**ls or knowledge to use Imax whenever possible and to use real film scenes instead of the cheap and easy CGI, green screen, blue screen.....etc wherever possible. There is so much more that went into making this film and The Dark Knight that people should realize by just giving the extra material on the disc a good viewing. Nolan showed me a lot of genius when compared to almost every other actor in film amongst every generation.
Acting, Writing, Directing, Sound Design, Sound Mixing, Sound Editing, Costumes, Visual Effects, IMAX Experience = ALL ON POINT!!!!
For me, everything about Hardy's performance was amazing. Every time the guy was on the screen talking I was blown away. I enjoyed his performance as Bane far more then Heath's performance as The Joker and that was one hell of a performance.
If you have not seen the movie, go see it! Period.
After seeing the Avengers I was worried that the dark knight rises wouldn't be able to satisfy the way it did. However I still held the dark knight as my favorite super hero movie with the Avengers in a close second. I just prefer the more mature and realistic atmosphere that Nolan is famous for. Well to all reading this review, it may not blow the avengers or dark knight away, however this is in my opinion the greatest super hero movie of all time. I would even go so far to say one of the best pictures EVER! I was lucky to see it early and will be back to see it in IMAX another 3+ times I'm sure.
The final chapter in an amazing trilogy has a lot to live up to with the excellent Batman Begins and Dark Knight having gone before it. I'll write this review without spoilers as the movie is out less than an week. But essentially we are about 8 years into the future since TDK and Batman has gone into retirement. He and the police commissioner still share a dark secret about Gothams hero Harvey Dent and it appears that life in Gotham is at last peaceful. However a new threat to Gotham and its elite population is revealed in Bane. And Batman must reluctantly come out of retirement to save his city and people from chaos. Fans of the comic will love the nod to one of the better BM story arcs. While the movie is not without it's faults it is still a very satisfying conclusion to Nolans vision of Gotham. Excellent performances from all the main cast wih special mention to Anne Hathawy and Michael Cane. But no one should be in doubt this is the movie for Bale to shine. A very solid 8/10 for me.
This movie has deffinately been in the spotlight for the past couple weeks - and in quite a few instances, for the completely wrong reasons. Although it opened here a week after the states, with alot of info concerning the movie already being leaked online, I was still hyped to see what Christopher Nolan was gonna give us in his final instalment of the Dark Knight Trilogy - and to be brutaly honest, i was not disapointed, and quite surprised!
Leading up to seeing this movie, I rewatched Batman Begins and The Dark Knight - although i had watched them numerous times before - it was nice to have them fresh in the mind before going into TDKR. I had not watched BB in the theatres - not too sure why, but I remember the hype that surrounded the Dark Knight - with Heath's death and how EPIC the movie was gonna be - so watching it in IMAX was a totally memorable and ubique experience. The 1st thing i can say is - although all the movies form a trilogy, each movie is basically different. The Dark Knight being the "darkest" of the lot - namely because of the Joker, and Heath's amazing performanxce of him. TDKR has been falling short for many people because of this - but what people fail to realise is that this is a different movie - and this isnt the Joker's movie. I dont think Nolan was aiming to duplicate what TDK was - but instead - play off it.
Yes - the movie was long - but were'nt the LOTR movies as well? I dont see this as a valid argument - alright, it took a little while to get started - but seeing as it's 7 years since the events of The Dark Knight, issue needed to be addressed, new characters needed to be introduced and older characters needed to be updated for the movie going fans. To me - the running time didnt even occur to me.
I'm not gonna go through the movie - scene by scene, but I'll point out my highest points and a couple things i didnt like - but was still not enough for me to give the movie a lower score:
1: Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle(Catwoman) - Many people were a bit reluctant to embrace Anne as Catwoman, but i seriously think she did an amazing job. She was everything catwoman should be - lethal, cunning and sexy!
2. Michael Caine as Alfred - The banter between Bruce and Alfred has always been something I've enjoyed in Nolan's trilogy - but in this movie - Caine put in an exceptional dramatic performance - that scene at the end could have brought tears to anybody's eyes!
3. Joseph Gordan Levitt - To me - I always see him as that long haired kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun - but I really think he's turning out to be a good solid actor. With his performance in Inception, and TDKR - he's showed that he can do the action stuff as well as the comedy. Need I even mention the last shot of the movie, or the build up to his character reveal?! In the scene where he's storming into the buliding with a shotgun... like a BOSS!!! Although the end set him up for more... I wonder if WB will, or should, go that route.... only time will tell though!
4. THE BAT!!!! - Alot of speculation was made toward Batman's newest vehicle - but it totally kicked ASS!!! I need to get me one of those!
5. The last half an hour of the movie - with Bane's army clashing with the cops, The final confrontation between Batman and Bane and Batman and Catwoman in the Bat and Batpod respectively against those tumblers... the conclusion was heartpounding action at its best... and then... emotion and hope.... The last 30 mins of this movie was what i waited so anxiously to see... dare i say it - i enjoyed this even more than the conclusion th the Avengers!!
Dislikes:
1. Banes accent - Bane was supposed to be a daunting physical threat to Batman - and he was, but I think his voice and accent just didnt do it. There were a couple giggles around the cinema whenever he had the occasional 0ne-liner... not cool if you're supposed to be a serious character.
2. Bane's defeat - Too easy. Ok- Batman shattered his mask a bit - which weakend him. But Catwoman arriving on the scene, blasts him with the Batpod and thats the end of him.... a bit anticlamatic. I was a bit disappointed - i though that Bane was gonna be an ultimate force - something Batman had not dealth with before - so defeating him was gonna take everthing Batman could muster... but all it too were a few blasts ala Catwoman...
All-in-all - an amazing movie - its not the Dark Knight, but that isnt a bad thing. I thoroughly enjoyed it and am deffinately gonna see it again soon - and deffinately get the bluray when its out. Its sad to see the end to Nolan's trilogy - but its neccessary, meaning that wee get a classic trilogy with 3 strong films, something that most trilogies have struggled achieving...
I went to the 12:01 showing at the Wichita West Warren IMAX (1 of 2 identical IMAX theatres that are the largest digital IMAX theatres in the world). It was well worth waiting in line for 8 hours, running to our seats, waiting 2 more hours for it to start, and etc. Immediately after the Commissioner says "I believed in Harvey Dent." It goes to an IMAX sequence (First seen in "The Dark Knight Rises: IMAX Prologue") With the track "Gotham's Reckoning" from the Score. Immediately I was had goosebumps. I had waited exactly 372 days for that first IMAX shot. The South American landscape was very crisp and clear in IMAX. Anyway to progress through my review. The story is amazing, although it's not a psychological thriller like TDK, more of an apocalyptic story. And the cast is amazing even though half of them were in Inception. It's like Chris Nolan's Justice League for movies. Again the IMAX shots are beautiful even though they are transitions in the settings by viewing Gotham's sky-scrapers. As you get to thirty minutes of the film, you get to what I would say is the best 30 seconds of IMAX footage.
Selina Kyle is in a bar making a transaction with Daggit's right hand man. The cops are on there way and turds hit the fan on the mood of the meeting. As soon as the sirens sound, bam IMAX. Selina kicks a goon's gun up in the air (while she is on the other side of the table). She quickly gets up grabs the gun and begins shooting and kicking some major ass.
Now about the audio.... Amazing sound effects thanks to the wonderful sound engineers that have worked on most of Nolan's films. The bat sounds amazing and the bat pod sounds better than it ever could with tweaking to the original effects from TDK. Add that too Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howards score, you officially have just made a baby from sound called "Holy Crap that was EPIC!"
Again with the 75 minutes of IMAX footage, the transitions between them and 35mm shots were not as smooth as they were in TDK. In fact I think that Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol is something Chris Nolan should have looked at, the transitions between IMAX 70mm shots and 35mm shots were extremely smooth and comfortable to watch, especially when Tom Cruise was about to climb the Berj Khalifa.
To finish, what a great and epic end to the Dark Knight trilogy, it almost left me in tears as I it has been a huge part of my life but it subsides that sorrow with what takes place 1 and a half minutes to the last second before the credits roll.
8/10
It didn't live up to its expectations the way The Dark Knight did, but it's a worthy addition to what is arguably the greatest movie trilogy of all time.
Bane was crystal clear in some scenes yet completely incoherent in others. It made connecting with him on a personal level more of a challenge. Hardy's commitment to the role deserved better. He's an absolute beast.
AN ANSWER TO ALL THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE REVIEWS ON THIS MOVIE AND ALL THE BLOGS ON THE INTERNET
THAT BOTH ATTACK AND SUPPORT EVERYONE ELSE:
I understand why people love The Dark Knight Rises. I have seen the film in theaters three times. Once in the largest
IMAX screen in my area. I can pick apart the movie intuitively, spiritually and mentally as much as the next average
person. I understand how Nolan cuts his films at a breakneck pace and how he can incorporate many
different levels into the dynamics of the story. I love the gritty feeling mentality of the pacing and how it resembles real
life commentary. I understand, the brilliance of the acting. For instance the touching moment when Anne Hathaway's
character Selina Kyle understands why she let Bruce down. How she isn't strong enough to face the truth, that
wonderful vulnerability in her eyes as she utters the soft, beautiful line: "come with me... You don't owe these people
anymore, you've given them everything.".
Batman's reply is one of many mixed emotions, respect, disappointment, integrity, attraction, honor. He understand's
Selina's position; yet deep down he may know that she will change her mind and help Gotham. I also understand these
ivy-league critics' complaints about how events in blockbusters are telegraphed. We know that Selina will return in the
correct moment to save Bruce. Probably to blow away the bad guys whilst delivering a cool catch phrase. YES movie
fans, I get why these so-called smart critics GET THAT and I don't care. I like those things in movies and I don't care if
they don't.
I acknowledge other beauty in the movie. The long lasting relationship between Gordon and Mathew Modine's character
deputy commissioner Peter Foley. The touching interchange at his apartment door between Gordon and him. Gordon's
wish for old police buddies wanting to rise to the occasion. Coupled with this is Nolan's ideology in play about how the
common citizenry must rise to the occasion (pun intended) when society gets rough. The entire 1% vs 99 mantra
tightroping through the film can feel tacked on to some, but to me it is part of the inevitable subtext that Nolan's vision
has created. A murky world that mirrors our own. Yes, movie fans, I too get that. I could go on, and on and on and on
and on and on and on with every aspect of the film.
I also get how certain "amateur" movie critics, bloggers, fans, film school people, movie makers, amateur columnists,
and yes, average movie lovers like yourself and I can assume to see all ends of a film and claim who is right and who is
wrong. What emotions we've experienced and how we emplore others to "see the light of day" and judge the movie
from our eyes. NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME AND NOT EVERYONE HAS TO LIKE SOMETHING AND APPRECIATE
SOMETHING THE WAY THAT YOU DO.
As great as The Dark Knight Rises is. AND IT IS GREAT. It is not without it's flaws. The pacing can be perceived as a
problem to some, whether or not that is the way Nolan envisioned it is up for debate. Maybe he calculated the movie to
be cut in a certain way, the way that 1970s gritty crime dramas took there time; so that they could attain a certain
level of nuanced sloppiness. Thus adding to the scope and breadth of the ambiance..., I DO NOT KNOW. Maybe he didn't
end up with the EXACT movie he envisioned in his mind. Maybe his producer wife was breathing down his neck? Maybe
the film we see before us is the exact one in his imagination. Who the hell knows? And you can't look me in the eye and
tell me that you really do. Maybe, just, maybe; there is not set in stone rule for how well the pacing of a film must be
perceived by the viewer? Maybe it is up for interpretation and debate? Maybe it doesn't matter? Maybe "pace" or
"boring" are just words that we invented to try to make excuses for inattention or lack of emotional complexity.
Maybe everyone is different at different stages in their life and wishes to express how they viewed a film in
different ways depending on how they felt that day. Maybe some people wish to view a film based solely on certain
elements like craft, acting, dialogue and structure. Maybe there are more spiritual people out there who do not care and
think they are above all that, or are simply writing a review to please someone (or something) else. Maybe a mindset
about a film can change with the years. WHO KNOWS.
I don't have to defend myself as a huge Chris Nolan or Batman fan or a fan of film. I have a film and television degree.
An eight year old who has never heard of movies like The Prestige, Citizen Kane, The Seventh Seal or
Inception to name just a few hasn't seen anything. So how could they know anything? However, I AM NOT TELLING
YOU THIS TO PUT PEOPLE DOWN OR TOOT MY OWN HORN! THAT IS NOT THE POINT! An eight year old could smarter
than me in other things and knows things I don't. Everything in life is relative. The point is THIS:
All I know is that everyone regardless of how intelligent, how studied, how observant, how smart and how adept they
are at analyzing art are entitled to THEIR own opinions. At the end of the day it IS just an opinion and not necessarily
truth. THERE IS NO TRUTH! The point is not to arrive at it completely but the journey.
We can all agree on the quality of certain things quantified by ample evidence. There is always that, but until everything
in expression is viewed as the same thing, that is the day when all freedom of thought, all creativity and all flaws good
and bad are lost. That is what makes art great, that we can discuss it and learn from one another without making
personal judgments about the individual's. I wish everyone would get off their high horse about this film and understand
this singular truth: just because somebody out there writes something down, does not make it the absolute (and
perfectly complete) truth about how they feel about THAT certain thing. Similarly, just because somebody writes movie
reviews for a living or for fun or for the hell of it, does NOT mean they know what the heck they are talking about...
If a person is stuck in the same kind of mentality their whole life, they are missing out on something very special. The
ability to see a movie (for example) in more ways than simply: "Oh this is the most awesome sh^t I've ever
seen".However, in the end it is only a movie. A small part in the big puzzle of life. How you approach placing each piece
in the grand picture says a lot about your character as an individual. It is because of the absence of such insight or sheer
ignorance of it all (something I hope nobody smart enough to appreciate The Dark Knight Rises feel) that we have people
giving death threats to critics on Rotten Tomatoes who panned TDKR. I assure you, these critics being attacked by
"fanboys and girls" are not terrible people nor are they "dumb" or misinformed. However, they might have had the
incorrect impression about the film; or a not as favorable an experience as you and I. On the flip side, this doesn't
necessarily mean I'm right either. It's just an opinion, and that's the beauty of the movies.
To quote the great Gandalf in Lord of the Rings: "even the wisest, cannot see all ends."
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