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John McTiernan's Predator to Get 3D Makeover
Posted March 22, 2013 07:15 PM by Webmaster
John McTiernan's cult action film Predator (1987) will be released on 3D Blu-ray later this year. A theatrical release, however, isn't planned at the moment. In the United States, Predator is distributed by Twentieth Century Fox.
Fansite TheArnoldGuys was the first to confirm that a 3D Blu-ray release is being prepped.
Predator stars Arnold Schwarzenegger, Carl Weathers, Kevin Peter Hall, Bill Duke, Jesse Ventura, and Sonny Landham. Recruited by the CIA to rescue hostages held by guerrilla fighters in a Central American country, Schwarzenegger and his men encounter an enemy unimaginably more deadly than any on Earth - because the Predator is not of this Earth.
Please Fox can you find the time to properly remaster this from the original negative and grant it a new color correction without altering it or adding any noise reduction? That's all the true fans want... It was made in the 80s and everyone knows that, stop trying to fool people into thinking it was photographed on an Arri Alexa.
It's kind of funny that comments revolving around this announcement is all about the botch job that FOX did with the last release of the film on Blu-Ray. But to tell the truth, I thought the exact same thing.. They should really give the guys who perfected the re-master of The Terminator for the new Blu of Predator a shot at it.
I guess I'll have to start saving for a 3D tv. This has the potential to be great in 3D, hopefully its not a shoddy conversion. Either way, I hope they do a remastered 2D version where the PQ is as good as the recent Terminator re-mastering.
Its a buy day one for me. I know there are a lot of lousy 3D flicks out there and one would think that technology would finally catch-up on making decent 3D movies. That is why I have high hopes in the conversions getting better since the industry is learning good lessons on making better 3D movies from royal classics. I have to admit, when I saw this on the big screen back in the day, I couldn't get enough... I wanted more just like it. Now the industry is releasing more and more of the great movies in 3D. I am all for 2D and for those good folks that are 2D die-hards, but for me, I like spending my bucks on 3D technology. Besides, next stop, holograms... now that would be something in 3D then... but before that can happen, the industry needs our money to push the technology in that direction.
I know its been stated already. But instead of taking the time to transfer this to 3D, why don't they take sometime to remove the DNR from the last transfer. Instead we are stuck with a transfer that looks like a video game or the old one loaded with compression anomalies.
I used to think converting classic films into 3D was terrible and for the most part I still do. Most people would agree that converting classics like Casablanca and The Hustler would be ridiculous. Predator is is not Casablanca. It's a big action movie. I don't see anything wrong with a 3D format of the film (if its done properly). I've had a ST5530 for a year now. Upgraded to a 3D receiver and player slowly. Picked up 2 pairs of glasses a few months back at bargain prices because I was very weary of 3D. Since then I've added 10 3D BD's to my collection and I am surprised how much I like 3D. There isn't too many good 3D movies on the market right now so when a good movie does come out in 3D I pick it up. One of the things I do like is the 3D version comes with the 2D. That being said I completely understand people's dislike for it because I was one of them.
Now can we expect Ishtar in 3D? Why not Plan 9 From Outer Space 3D? Hollywood simply does not learn from past mistakes that this 3D fad that demands extra cash from moviegoers is going to die, but not as soon as the past instances where 3D was in theaters. Personally, I do not like 3D, especially when Hollywood thinks every other picture needs to be retrofitted for 3D. Some love 3D, and I respect that, and their opinions. But the film industry constantly complains about losing money, and it's mostly due to bad romantic comedies and crappy horror remakes. 3D is not the answer to their woes, good decisions made when green-lighting a film is. Is it really a good idea to fit Predator for 3D? How much money do they really expect to make from this endeavor? A better decision would be to give this film a proper master that would be appreciated by ALL of it's fans, and not to pander to a 3D craze that will eventually land these Blu Rays in the bargain bin or a used movie shop. No one in Hollywood seems to want to learn from the past, so now they are repeating it. Sad. I would have jumped all over a proper master of Predator, but not at the expense of it's native integrity. Yes, that is my opinion.
Screw this, I won't be happy until movies like "Gone With the Wind" are in 3D. It's time for Hollywood to stop messing around and give real movie fans what they want......more cgi, and every single movie ever made converted to 3D!
In an all seriousnesss, I don't have to buy this and I know that, but good grief......is this really necessary? Is this what it has come to? Is the modern day movie fan so ignorant that a movie isn't good to them unless they can put on their silly, annoying 3D glasses to watch every damn movie?
@Calibraexis, you have a good head on your shoulders. Thank you for speaking the truth. What Hollywood needs to understand is that the reason they're losing money is because they've all sense of creativity. Every movie is either a rehash of the same kind of movie that's been done over and over, or it's a pointless remake, or it's another unnecessary sequel. They all end up being excuses to have 3D. They seem to have forgotten that action/thriller/sci-fi movies CAN have great stories and acting if you only try. They can also have exciting musical scores, but they just throw on the latest generic crap that sounds like every other movie.
Enough already! Why don't Fox re-release it as a "filmmakers signature series" title with a remaster like they did with Wallstreet and The French Connection? That's what most of us fans of the movie want. I don't have a problem with a new 3-D version, I have a problem with the absence of Predator on BD with a transfer that's true to source from a fresh scan.
Your voice is not alone, a lot of people feel that way, and I agree with a lot...but your logic is flawed. Their LOSING money is not based on romantic comedies and horror flicks, actually those are generally profitable or a minimal loss (ie, Mama). Best case scenario they have a break out hit on something that they spent very little creating (ie, Identity Thief). Even better, these movie takes off on video and they make a lot of money there. Are the ideas stale? Sure. Neither here nor there. Original or unique concepts, spec scripts, and avoiding sequels and remakes are all great ideas...which are few and far between, and aren't where the profits appear when following the market trends. Hollywood is a business, it's not a fan service. Think of it this way: McDonald's isn't going to overload their menu with new things when what they make their money on is the things they've had from the start.
Here's where the money disappears: it's the proposed tentpoles that cost upwards of $150-200 million that end up making around $50-60 mil domestic that is where the money loss is happening. Jack the Giant Slayer? Shouldn't have gotten a green light for what they spent. And spending extra money on something like GI Joe Retalliation and yanking it from a summer release, converting it to 3D, and dumping it in March is a poor idea that's a bad use of money.
Consider this: Predator is one of Fox's biggest money makers on video, the cost to convert it and release it on blu 3D is a GOOD use of money. Action films play well in 3D. 3D isn't a fad, it's going to be a standard feature in TV's now, and those of us who own a TV and play the 3D content enjoy it a lot. Anyway, Predator in 3D could be pretty cool. Jungle can have a lot of added depth, depends on how much time and money is spent to convert. I hope for a new master as well.
@Alpha76767: Yes, sir! You are completely correct! 3D is not a fad as it was in the '50s. It has been going this time MUCH longer than it did back then. Televisions with 3D capabilities are getting less and less expensive. I just picked up a 50" LG for just over $1000.
You also hit on a VERY good point that a LOT of people don't understand. The studios are NOT losing money on the crappy, over-the-top DTV horror flicks and the ridiculous, pretentious, and redundant romantic flicks. Occasionally, yeah, like you mentioned "Mama." But the unexpected, break-out hits kill it, man. The studios make money hand over fist on those flicks, which makes up for the junk that doesn't cut the mustard where profit is concerned. You mentioned "Identity Thief." I can think of a few more: "Taken," "The Blair Witch Project," "Mad Max," "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," "Super Size Me," "Rocky," "Halloween," "American Graffiti," "Napoleon Dynamite," "Friday the 13th," "Open Water," "Saw," and "The Evil Dead." There are plenty others.
Additionally, you discussed where that money really disappears to. There are a lot, I mean A LOT, of movie executives out there who should be getting canned every day of the week. I agree with the B.S. they pulled with G.I. Joe. They are probably going to lose their asses for doing it. And "Jack the Giant Slayer"? No, it should have never been green-lighted. Fire the idiot or idiots who did! There are even more movies out there where that occurred rather than vice-versa. Granted, some of them are exceptional flicks, like "Children of Men," but many of them tank because the marketing is all F'd up, or it's released opposite a major blockbuster, which leaves it very little chance to draw enough ticket sales to pull a profit.
There are other reasons, too. Here's a sad one: Have any of you heard of the movie "Interstate 60"? Well, it was supposed to be a big hit, a blockbuster, (Check out the cast: Gary Oldman, Christopher Lloyd, James Marsden, Amy Smart, Ann-Margret, Chris Cooper, Michael J. Fox, Jonathan Whittaker, Kurt Russell and written/directed by Bob Gale, the guy who wrote the Back to the Future series), but it's marketing development and subsequent release were opposite the 9/11 disaster. No one even thought about going to the theaters then, and it tanked at the box office. Hardly anyone even remembers it. I've seen it, and it's a really good flick.
Anyway, I like 3D ... not all the time, mind you. But once in a while it makes for a pleasant break from the norm. I agree that "Predator" is a movie that I wouldn't mind seeing in 3D. I vote thumbs-up on this one.
I'm dreading the day they announce that 3-D is seriously messing up people's eyes or brain functions. Once in a while at the theater is cool, but all the time in theaters AND now at home?? Can't be good.
I know the only movie I saw in 3-D that didn't give me a headache or double vision for an hour or two after, was Prometheus. Not sure if it was the 3-D technique used, the lighting, whatever, but that one was WELL done.
I'm all for a Predator 3D release, but more importantly I would like a better transfer with bonus features. I get this bad feeling that its going to be a cheap-o 3D conversion like I, Robot. I actually really like the Top Gun conversion and hope it turns out more like that.
You are assuming quite a bit. These days the old saying of assuming makes an ass out of you and me no longer applies. You just make an ass of yourself. Do you know I can or cannot afford a 3D television? Do you really? When was the last time you got a good look at my financials? Were you behind me at the bank teller? I think your rant needs a lot of fact checking. Not that it is any of your damn business, but I make $95K a year after taxes, and can afford whatever I damn well want. It's a choice I have decided to make, based on my likes and dis-likes with regards to 3D. I don't care for it. simple. I don't insist people share my opinion, or assume that someone else cannot afford a 3D television. I am not a "hater", but rather someone who does not care for the 3D craze that others have adopted. I believe it's time for you to go "back inside."
'Cult'....Predator is a 'classic' 80s action Blockbuster, one of the best that still stands up today and one of Arnies best!. This should be released in cinemas (why not?) With Arnie getting involved and puishing for another sequel with him starring.
@impossible- Top Gun 3D was actually one of the better conversions to date. And believe me, when I first heard that movie was going to be released in 3D I laughed, read the review for yourself.(very accurate) http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Top-Gun-3D-Blu-ray/60004/ As for Predator in 3D? yeah, it sounds ridiculous but if it's anything like what they did with Top Gun? i'm all for it. Am I a fan of 3D?? only when it's used to enhance the film (Prometheus) Not when it's the gimmick used on rides at theme parks! Just my opinion
The 3D conversion is fine, it is the crap PQ that is the problem. Because of the digital grain added to the film after it was scrubbed of detail to do the conversion and the colour timing changes, it is the worst looking bluray I own, 2D or 3D. I do not care what the professional reviews say (obviously a bit of cash must've changed hands there) it looks like absolute dung, it's like watching a 3D conversion of a VHS tape. The aerial scenes are fine, but anything else just looks disgusting.
Everyone is mad about the conversion, or the fact it's being released in 3D.
Shoot... I thought the most disappointing news was that this wasn't going to be released back into theaters! I want to enjoy this beast on the big screen, and I want to experience the youngsters' witnessing this for their first time!
Looks like the CIA has most of you pushing too many pencils!
Enough with the fucking 3D conversions! It is destructive revisionism that destroys the vision of the filmmakers and poses an issue with preserving the films as they originally were for future generations. I will not support this in any way at all.