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Disney Announces 'Oz the Great and Powerful 3D' Workaround

Posted May 4, 2013 12:21 AM by Webmaster

Walt Disney StudiosEarlier today, in response to consumer outcry, Disney revealed that Blu-ray copies of Oz the Great and Powerful 3D -- which feature a 3D BD disc and downloadable digital copy, but no 2D BD -- will include an in-package offer that allows those who purchase the 3D version to obtain a 2D BD disc by mail for an additional $5.99.

The studio's official statement reads as follows:

    "We strive to give our consumers the best in-home experience and consistently evolve our mix of product offerings. We know that our 3D consumers enjoy that experience as well as the ease of use and functionality of digital copy. With Oz the Great and Powerful we're offering a single, simplified version for their in-home and on-the-go viewing needs. And, for those desiring a 2D Blu-ray version of the film, there's an offer included in the package."
Blu-ray.com has yet to receive official confirmation as to whether the $5.99 offer was created specifically to address the recent rash of complaints received from consumers, which were many, or if the offer was designed to be included in the package all along. The former would suggest Disney is in the process of quickly re-evaluating its 3D strategy going forward. The latter would suggest this is simply another aspect of the studio's 3D packaging experiment.

Oz the Great and Powerful arrives on Blu-ray on June 11th via 2D (BD + DVD + Digital Copy) and 3D (3DBD + Digital Copy) combo pack releases. Additional details for both editions are available here.

Film Synopsis: When Oscar Diggs (Franco), a small-time circus magician with dubious ethics, is first swept away from dusty Kansas to the vibrant Land of Oz, he thinks he's hit the jackpot, with fame and fortune his for the taking. All that begins to change, though, when he meets three witches -- Theodora (Kunis), Evanora (Weisz) and Glinda (Williams) -- who aren't convinced he's the great wizard everyone's been expecting. Reluctantly drawn into the epic problems facing the Land of Oz and its inhabitants, Oscar must uncover who is good and who is evil before it is too late. Putting his magical arts to use through illusion, ingenuity and even a bit of wizardry, Oscar transforms himself not only into the great and powerful Wizard of Oz but into a better man as well.




Source: Home Media Magazine | Permalink | United States [Country settings]

News comments (106 comments)



go_wrench
  May 04, 2013
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No, I'll just not buy, thanks. I can't justify a separate purchase for something that should come with the 3D version as it has done in the past.

countprice
  May 04, 2013
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Nice Disney, nice. Next they are going to announce that there will be a blank spot in the 3D case to house your newly purchased 2D Blu-Ray add on....

Servo
  May 04, 2013
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Disney tries this crap but NOT dropping the DC/DVD instead? WTF?
slickkeng
  May 04, 2013
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What a poor attempt by Disney! First the double stacking of discs on the 4 disc packs and now this. I never thought Disney would go cheap on us.
bryanr1213
  May 04, 2013
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Ok I'll try to remain neutral on this subject, as the owner of a 3d tv I could honesty care less my lg tv lets me shutoff 3d so it will show in 2d if I want, but this is why privacy is so prevelant because people just don't trust the movie studios and if they are willing to sell a extra copy for only 5.99 that just tells you how high the damn mark ups are on this stuff, I don't think people should have to pay extra for the disc, I have alice in wonderland in 3d and have three discs I don't even need.

JeremyBuh
  May 04, 2013
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Same as Bryan, my 3d TV also has an on/off 3D option, therefore ill just be picking up the 3D version, sucks though, disneys basically scamming everyone (or trying to) to double dip

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Ken Brown
  May 04, 2013
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I strongly suspect they're simply trying to address complaints they either 1) didn't anticipate or 2) didn't anticipate to be as widespread and impassioned as we've seen. Rather than delay the entire release, this is most likely a quick fix and nothing more. (Changing the packaging and contents of a release of this size a month out from street would be far more involved than simply swapping discs into a new case with new cover art.) I'm hoping they issue a more detailed statement next week that acknowledges the consumer feedback.

The fact that the studio is offering a response like this seems to indicate it's abandoning the idea of 3D-only editions, at least for the foreseeable future. Time will certainly tell, so wait and watch for details on Disney's next big 3D release. Chances are it will be a 3D+2D+DVD+DC combo pack edition. Silver lining: I seriously doubt other studios are in a hurry to duplicate Disney's experiment.

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Blu Titan
  May 04, 2013
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This whole premise by Disney has been nothing but a failure since its inception. They are already charging more than enough for the 3D version and should not resort to "milking" consumers. They should include the 2D with the 3D version. End of story.
prozacnation1978
  May 04, 2013
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Shit I may just pay the 6 bucks. Hopefully they won't try this shit again
insane1220
  May 04, 2013
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I will not be owning this movie in 3D. Very simple. 3D is nothing special. It's cool in a theater setting but very annoying in the home due to the need for glasses. I only have it because the TV I bought had the best picture and just happened to have 3D. As long as they have the digital copy and Blu-Ray copy, I'm good. They can keep their 3D movie. I'll stick with my 2D ... its cheaper and has amazing picture.

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wvl
  May 04, 2013
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@Ken Brown, I agree with you. I think Disney messed up on this one and Disney is now trying to go into the PR recovery mode which it looks like they are even putting their foot in the cow patch even further. The price of the 3D alone is already at the typical price of 3D with 2D, DVD and DC, but to add an additional $6 bucks to repair their screw up is not cool. Disney should immediately include a free copy of 2D, DVD and DC but only ask the consumer to pay for shipping. At least the fans of Disney will really see that they recognized their screw up and are willing to make up for it. However, asking the customer to dig deeper into the pockets to get a copy of 2D isn't cool.

@Disney, you messed up. Don't do like the housing market and ask the consumer to pay for your mistakes. Do the right thing Disney. Every one of us will have a bad taste in our mouths for a long, long time if you don't see a way to make an effort to be loyal to fans that are loyal to you.
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Vegetto1083
  May 04, 2013
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Isn't the 3D release already over $5.99 more than the 2D release even without adding in the Amazon $5 coupon? So if you want the 2D disc you have to cover the price difference 2x...

fdm
  May 04, 2013
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So let's see. If I read elsewhere correctly, the 3D version is 44.99, so add another 6 bucks to that (and then shipping and handling on top of that) and you're in like Flint. Sheesh. (Not that I even care to own this, but good job Disney. And wtf with the 45 price tag in the first place?)

Blue_Steel
  May 04, 2013
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WOW so much pissing and moaning, this is great news this will make 3D versions much cheaper instead of these damn 4 disc combo packs that drive the price up. If you don't have a 3DTV than this shouldn't matter to you. If you do then you can simply turn 3D off or convert 3D to 2D its as simple as that. If you want the 2D version so much than buy the 2D version instead. Geeze people will complain about anything these days, I purchased a 3D TV because I enjoy the immersion and depth/pop out of 3D films and IMO it enhances the movie. So for me and many others I always opt for the 3D version, but its pretty annoying the price is usually much higher, something like this should bring down the price on 3D movies finally. Pretty much 99% of 3D TV's can convert 3D movies to 2D as I said before, and if 3D doesn't interest you then stop complaining and buy the damn 2D version.

Taygan315
  May 04, 2013
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Experiment: FAILED! Please Disney.....don't try this experiment again.
MoulinBlu
  May 04, 2013
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I hope you're right Ken. According to Home Media Mag, they're also offering buyers of the 2D version the ability to get a 3D disc for the same amount: 5.99 plus shipping. That's a bit more reasonable, considering the 2D BD also comes with a dvd like their previous 3D combo packs, and it starts out at a lower price, making the total a little more in line with what we'd normally pay, unless we see much better retailer discounting of the 3D edition closer to street - so far, it's the same 3D premium as usual though. Paying the 3D premium up front and mailing in what'll likely be another $8 to $10, after shipping is factored, isn't much more encouraging than the original announcement.

It's pretty obvious this is in response to the outcry they've received since the announcement. I wonder if they'll create new artwork and send the 3D or 2D discs in a larger capacity case with appropriate 3D/2D artwork and specs, or send it in it's own professionally finished case to be kept separate or alongside the edition the consumer bought, or if they'll just mail people discs in a blank sleeve with no regard to the fact that they're essentially asking the consumer to pay extra for their blunder or inconsiderate experimentation, in addition to the inconvenience of the whole process, leaving us with something that looks like we bought it off ebay.

I'm suspicious by nature and admittedly, more than a little cynical where studios are concerned. That said, it still seems a little half-hearted to me. One month really isn't that tough of a deadline, especially during the slowest buying season of the year. We've seen studios completely pull releases, supposedly remaster the film and repress the discs in less time than that. In fact I think Disney did it themselves with Arachnophobia, if memory serves. Granted, catalog releases don't command the same volume of copies involved, but Arachnophobia was supposedly remastered too, not just repackaged or repressed due to production defects - which we've also seen a time or four: orders already shipped to the stores, packed back up and returned to the studio, due to production defects, and they sent out corrected copies without even missing street.

Re-allocating enough 2D copies that they've already got pressed for stores or surplus, to meet initial 3D demand and print new artwork, doesn't seem that tough in a months time, considering some of the seeming miracles they've pulled off before, some even during the holiday buying season. I'm thinking Disney might still be experimenting here, seeing how many people will actually go through the trouble and added expense, or gambling that most won't, so they've got the appearance of good will, but not the actual expense. Technically, consumers are already paying for the 2D discs. If Disney really wanted to step up, they'd only charge shipping. At least that's my foggy thinking on the subject at 2:30 in the morning.
DaFees
  May 04, 2013
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I can see it now, if what I read is true that the 2D version will come with the option to buy the 3D version, then people will get this 3D version only to turn around and ebay for a profit,
licious
  May 04, 2013
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(OK. I just spent three hours writing and editing this. I hit refresh before I posted this and noticed that there are some lengthy comments [posted above] since I started my ramblings and I posted this. I'm sure some of my complaints have been addressed above, so please just indulge, ignore or what have ya. I'm glad we feel passionate about it though.)


Dear Mr. Lasseter,

WE (3D TV owning, Blu-ray 3D disc buying public) are the early adopters. WE are the ones that prefer the quality of discs over downloads. WE are the ones who despise buying multi format "combo" packs just to get the bonus disc... WE are the ones who watch the bonus disc! WE are the ones that have home theaters that shows off the quality of Blu-ray (2D / 3D and uncompressed surround audio) and convince our peers to invest in the technology.

Thank you for not including a DVD in this release. WE have no use for those; except to sell, give or throw them away.

As for the Blu-ray 3D disc... It should conform to the official Blu-ray 3D spec, as defined by the BDA (Blu-ray Disc Association), and play on Blu-ray 3D players AS WELL AS older NON 3D Blu-ray players. (Just because a disc reads on older, non 3D players and displays a screen does NOT make it compliant to the official Blu-ray 3D spec.) Now WE haven't complained about your lack of adherence to this, since all Blu-ray 3D releases (before this) have conformed to the spec OR included both a 3D disc and a 2D disc. WE will NOT pay $5.99 for your disregard of the BDA standard - the standard that Disney, as a member of BDA, has to comply with in order to use the Blu-ray Disc / Blu-ray 3D logo. I'm sure that the F.T.C. will be interested if you go through with marketing the discs with said logos, since doing so would be fraudulent to consumers.

"We know that our 3D consumers enjoy that experience as well as the ease of use and functionality of digital copy. With Oz the Great and Powerful we're offering a single, simplified version for their in-home and on-the-go viewing needs." Huh?!? First off, all of your digital copies have been iTunes only. If you truly want an "ease of use ... digital copy" your "3D consumers enjoy", you would have given more than one option. SECONDLY, the digital copy that "3D consumers enjoy" should be in 1080p! NOT the standard definition version that has been the only digital copy you have included with physical disc releases - also WE do not want a disc that is useless after redeeming the digital copy code. That is hurting the environment. At least a DVD video disc can be used again. Now I've heard rumors that future Disney Blu-ray releases with digital copy will not include a physical disc and only be a digital download. I hope those rumors are true. I also hope that the consumer has more than one choice of where to redeem their digital copy and that it is in 1080. (Personally, iTunes with Apple TV is the only thing I use, but I know plenty of people that use other software/hardware to watch their digital collections.) WE do not want an SD version, whether on disc or download.

I only represent myself here. However, I do believe I am not alone in feeling this way. I am sure that most 3D TV / Blu-ray 3D owners agree with parts of what I have listed above.

On a completely personal note. I started buying Blu-ray 3D discs over a year before I owned a 3D TV. The first one I bought was Tangled. The second was Tron: Legacy. I bought these disc because I knew I would eventually own a 3D television. In the mean time, I was able to watch those movies on my non 3D TV with the 2D Blu-rays that came with them. I was planning for the future when I purchased them. I'm sure that there are plenty of other hopeful 3D owners out there. Others that plan to have an incredible 3D home theater in the future. Others, that sadly will skip this 3D release simply because they can't watch it now, at least not in Blu-ray quality. If they (those who are not yet fortunate enough to own all the components that your 3D discs require to even play) have to choose between a Blu-ray 3D with (SD?) digital copy and a Blu-ray (2D) with DVD and (SD?) digital copy…. I'm thinking that those 3D hopefuls will not buy anything. They will just wait until they have the complete 3D set up. And who knows, by that time they might have already forgotten about your movie. If that was my situation right now, I know I wouldn't buy the 3D Oz the Great and Powerful. Nor would I buy the "combo" release. However…. if the digital copy is in 1080, that would be very persuasive for me to buy the 3D version.
Since I am lucky enough to own a complete 3D set up, I will be purchasing the 3D release. I have yet to see the movie, but the reviews have been kind so you're in luck. Just PLEASE, make your included digital copies a download (from one's preferred online distributor - even if it's an UltraViolet copy [I can't believe I just wrote that. I HATE UltraViolet. It's inconsistent and overly complicated.],) not on disc and in 1080.

This is just the rambling thoughts of one 3D TV & Blu-ray 3D owning fan of movies, technology and Disney. Please consider some of my points though.
Dion
  May 04, 2013
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3D BD's come with a 2D track. I don't see a problem. If you want the 3D. Buy the 3D.. If you want the 2D buy the 2D. If you want both. Buy the 3D then get the extra 2D disc ( pointless as the 3D BD comes with a 2D Track ) for another 6$. better then spending 20-30$ more.
licious
  May 04, 2013
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@Vegetto1083 No. Currently the 3D version and multi-disc 2D version are the same price on Amazon. The MSRP is also the same on both versions.

@Blue_Steel I agree with most of your point. Here's the thing... Not all of my TVs are 3D. If, for some unknown reason, I want to watch a Blu-ray 3D that I own in a room that doesn't have a full 3D set up - I should be able to play the disc regardless. Part of the Blu-ray 3D spec, as defined by the BDA, is that a Blu-ray 3D disc must play in non 3D Blu-ray Disc players as well as Blu-ray 3D players.. Some studios have gotten around this by including a 2D Blu-ray disc with the 3D disc (Warner Bros. / Paramount / Disney) -technically this is in not in accordance with the BSA specs for Blu-ray 3D discs. Most Blu-ray 3D discs are in compliance (i.e. Resident Evil 4 & 5, Dredd, How To Train Your Dragon).

@MoulinBlu Your "foggy thinking on the subject at 2:30 in the morning" is on point (at least from my point of foggy thinking at 3:30 in the morning). Here's what I wonder about your point (don't get me wrong, it's not what you said [which I agree with], it's the lack of facts for the release).... Is the 3D release 1 disc like the listing on this site says.. "50GB Blu-ray Disc, Single disc (1 BD), Digital copy (on disc), Blu-ray 3D"? If it's a Single disc (1 BD), is the Digital copy really on the disc?!? I'm confused about the listings here and everywhere else I can find them currently. Disney has NEVER put a digital copy on a BD. It has always been on a separate DVD. So is the 3D release a single disc (and here's my hat tip you MoulinBlu) or is it a two disc release... One BD and one DVD that only has a digital copy on it. If it's a two disc release, it would be easy as (a 4 letter word that starts with F here) to replace the second disc with a Blu-ray. If it's 3 discs (a 3D BD, a BD bonus disc and an SD Digital Copy on DVD), same thing. If the 3D release is truly only one disc, then ƒΩ₵₭ Disney for charging (at least in MSRP) the same as a multi-disc.

@AngelGraves13 Shhhhhhhhh!

@Dion Correct, 3D BDs come with a 2D track (more or less). Disney, as well as some other studios, won't allow their 3D discs to play on non 3D equipment even if some of the equipment is 3D enabled. The discs should play on non 3D systems ACCORDING TO THE BLU-RAY 3D SPECS ESTABLISHED BY THE BDA. That is the problem.

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kevin87
  May 04, 2013
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good thing I wouldn't have bought the 3D version anyway I guess. if this is just to make it cheaper, then they should just stop with the digital copy discs since that can easily be given with a simple piece of paper, no reason to waste a whole disc.
licious
  May 04, 2013
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@kevin87 Thank you! One of my points (but much shorter and precise)!!! :-)
silencio
  May 04, 2013
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DEATH TO 3D!!!

Cinemaniac
  May 04, 2013
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I think this is great. It's perfect. You don't need both versions. You can't watch both versions at the same time. You either watch the 3D version, or buy the 2D version instead. People who love 3D can buy their copy, people who hate 3D or prefer 2D can buy their copy. I honestly don't see a problem.

Fryman86
  May 04, 2013
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@Blue Steel: I don't own a 3D tv yet, but for some films I like to get the 3D combo pack to future proof, but I also want to be able to watch the movie now. Do you honestly think that by removing the 2D and DVD discs Disney is going to lower the price? Nope.

@Licious: Who crowned you spokesperson for all blu ray buyers? You may not have any use for combo packs, but a lot of us do. Combo packs that include a DVD allow me to loan or show the movie to someone who doesn't have a blu ray player yet.

Destinys Memory
  May 04, 2013
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Considering Disney offered a $5.00 coupon for ONLY the 2D combo and they will likely charge a $5.00 premium for the 3D+DC SKU... Come release day, they should offer the 3D+DC SKU at the same price as the 2D SKU, otherwise 3D owners are paying THREE premiums. I don't mind a $5.00 premium for 3D (like other Disney releases), but $15.00 more is ridiculous. Disney needs to lower the 3D+DC price.

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denger76
  May 04, 2013
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I don't care about a digital copy or a DVD included in the package. Why not have a digital download offer for a fee in with the 2D & 3D together? I prefer to watch my movies on my big screen TV not on my laptop and/or my tablet. I feel like I am paying extra for a DVD and digital copy that I won't use. That is the reason why I have become more selective in purchasing Blu Ray discs because I don't want to pay extra for items I won't use.
Impossible
  May 04, 2013
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For me it is more the fact that Disney releases have such shocking (and not needed) floating windows on their 3D releases. It is bad enough you have to put up with them while watching in 3D let alone watching them in 2D.
hotFstop
  May 04, 2013
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It was a terrible movie anyway.

ChuckT43
  May 04, 2013
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The issue is not fixed. High price for the 3d edition. Add 5.99 (is shipping included?), now your over $30 release week. After that over $40 if it is priced as other Disney 3d releases. No thanks, I'll skip. I would have bought it for the visuals had it been released like all the usual releases. The story seems to get mixed reviews anyway.
UseYourIllusionAgain
  May 04, 2013
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Nice try, Disney! You should have included the 2D/3D in the one package like you usually do. Get it right, Disney. Charging that much for Just the 2D or 3D, is what we would normally would pay for both. Now pay an extra 5 dollars + shipping I'm sure. Shame on you, Disney. Greed is evil.
MEATBALL 2112
  May 04, 2013
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I'm not buying any version of it. It's the only way to send a message to Disney. Who in the hell made this decision? I hope he or she gets fired over this. This "fix" is just simply not good enough. I hope you lose your ass off on this one Disney!

skyofcrack
  May 04, 2013
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Workaround - NO. Jerkaround - Yes. Until Disney includes both 2D and 3D in the same package for a reasonable price, I'll obtain this elsewhere for NO price.
Impossible
  May 04, 2013
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Just import the UK version
Rockula Bacchus
  May 04, 2013
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If you like 3D then good for you. Enjoy it.
But those of us who are partially blind in one eye need 2D.
Thank you.
aaaa6344
  May 04, 2013
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disney.......what the HECK are you even talking about????!?

pixarforlife
  May 04, 2013
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Well I don't have a 3D Blu-ray player or a 3D TV and I would much rather get the Blu-ray/DVD/Digital Copy Combo Pack...IMHO!!!

This film was actually a very good movie.
insomniac013
  May 04, 2013
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Skimping out on extras, skimping out on packaging, making Diamond Editions limited, forcing you to pay extra to get a 3D/2D combo pack - Disney really went to shit with the advent of Blu Ray!

I miss their DVD days: no stupid combo packs, neat packaging, tons of special features... What happened to you Disney? You used to be cool.

xxBachelor1981xx
  May 04, 2013
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Disney has gone cheap. No more artwork on disc and now this crap. They are trying to pinch every penny in order to make up for all the money they spent buying Marvel and StarWars

iLuv3M3
  May 04, 2013
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I guess John Carter has taken a financial toll on them and they are still trying to recover in anyway possible?
lujan
  May 04, 2013
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I didn't even really care for the movie much less having to buy the 2D separately...
MoulinBlu
  May 04, 2013
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For those who want to give Disney the benefit of the doubt, and believe this was their intent all along - as extremely unlikely as that possiblitity is - you should be even more upset: If deliberate, such amounts to a substantial price-hike for 3D consumers that is still just as discouraging for the market, as well as 3D adoption. I'm sure Disney already has an idea from past mail-in rebates and disc replacement programs, the percentage of buyers they might expect to go to the trouble. But based on what they're charging, they're not doing anyone any favors, nor showing any genuine accountability for such an unpopular marketing scheme. It's too bad the BDA doesn't actually enforce standards for the format. But, that's nothing new; the DVD Forum never did either.

In the light of day, my previous skepticism stands: This is a half-hearted response from Disney, at best.

thecynical_drummer
  May 04, 2013
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@Cinemaniac - There was a time I would have agreed with you. However I know in our house I may watch the 3D version on the big TV and sometimes the wife likes to watch the same movie in the bedroom later on a non 3D TV.

BD3Dfan
  May 04, 2013
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Kind of a step back from the Disney US that is usually expected. It's sounding more and more like Disney UK to me (Charge more for less content). And to think Disney UK says UK buyers should import if their releases isn't quality.

Makes sense with 2D buyers, since there's no extra money to worry about. 3D buyers, however, have to pay more to get 2D in the US, whereas it's looking like the UK is getting 2D as usual, per the recent UK 3D releases. In this case, Disney UK's 3D release might be the better one, for once. Barring bonus material, but still.
F13BluRay
  May 04, 2013
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Its because they bought Marvel and Lucasarts. Need to recoup somehow. Still a terrible idea though. Im just glad I saw it in theatres and did not blind buy it as it was not very good. Mila Kunis was terribly miscast.

tru blu
  May 04, 2013
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"We strive to give our consumers the best in-home experience"

How about dumping DVD if this is the case?

ClaytonMG
  May 04, 2013
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So I'm paying more for the 3D version already since there's no coupon, and then ontop of that, I'd have to pay another $5.99 for the 2D version? No thanks Disney. Good luck.

doctorD
  May 04, 2013
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As much as this sucks, at least now I don't have to spend another $20+ for the 2D version of the disc.

Nightman04
  May 04, 2013
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Hiw about, instead of seeing this as an oppotunity to make more money, you offer to send those who want it a FREE 2d disk. That is how you fix this. No other way. Until then, this is pathetic Disney. Absolutely pathetic
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bluknight1
  May 04, 2013
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Bullshit!!! 3D users are still a minority! Fuck you, Disney!

ditcin
  May 04, 2013
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Oh, please the folks at DISNEY have always been turds. They have been the least innovative group in DVD and especially Blu-ray. Remember, this is the company who threw their money in the original Divix, prior to DVD hoping everyone would PAY each time they viewed a DVD. They held back on TRON on Blu-ray until the sequel was out. They won't even look at BLACK HOLE, SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES, and forget about how they trashed WATCHER INT THE WOODS - something I fought them over 20 year until it came out via ANCHOR BAY, and even that was a God Damn war in which they held it back for 3yrs not allowing much of what I world on out. These people are idiots. As much as I really like OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL Disney really should be much more humble about it. After all they really owe MGM for this film's success. Without bowing gracefully to the visually image that MGM procured for the Land of OZ and its character this film would have bombed. Now their acting like THEY discovered something new - not. Thanks to the good taste of Sam Rami and how he has handled it they own so much to what came before. ....and if they were smart they would join MGM/Warner in combined studio effort so they can grow the franchise and fully utilize the MGM standard for OZ - if their smart. For once Disney needs to shove its ego aside and realize they lack in many ways. HOME VIDEO as a start point.

spidy
  May 04, 2013
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$30 for the 3D disc with the useless DC and then pay $6 to get the 2D copy? No thanks, I'll pass.
MattmanAlpha
  May 04, 2013
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Any word on how the $5.99 "rip-off" disc will be packaged? Would be nice if Disney mailed a fully packaged BD version, but I suppose it'll just be a BD in a paper sleeve...which means picking up a 3-disc case and making custom cover art. Swell :/

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Mark Malmstrøm
  May 04, 2013
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Disney Diamond Edition is the worst shit out there. tke lion king - the movie's 1,66 ratio was chopped to a 1,78 ratio, effect shots were missing - and the extras was lacking, the best release is still the very first dvd edition with the option to Watch two versions of the film

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RBBrittain
  May 04, 2013
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STILL epic fail! If you're only gonna put 2 discs in the package, make 'em BD3D & BD2D, and ditch the DC disc! (Shouldn't be a problem; you're ditching the DC disc for The Little Mermaid...)

frank_t
  May 04, 2013
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Shame on disney.

When they let me download the entire movie in blu ray quality (audio and video) and let me store it locally with no need to be connected to watch it i'll accept downloads.

Mr. Joshua
  May 04, 2013
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Here's something revolutionary; do like Lionsgate and put the 3D version and 2D version on the same disc! Why can't it just be one damn disc! That was the whole point of blu-ray! One disc for each movie I own. I don't need 3 or 4 or 5 discs to watch the damn movie. Increase the capacity and have one disc!

SpaceDog
  May 04, 2013
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Absolutely not good enough! I'm paying full freight. I should get it in the package. If they would like to do a mail away for free that would be acceptable.

smooththaboss
  May 04, 2013
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wow bs on disney's part

dmarvin
  May 04, 2013
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Nice try, Disney. Not.

diL
  May 04, 2013
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All we can hope is that this is the last release of its kind

RebelPrince1986
  May 04, 2013
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I'm kind of confused at why everyone feels Disney owes them combo packs. It's a nice convenience they've afforded their customers in the past and one I'm sure they will offer in the future, but it's not something they owe people. If you want to buy the 3D version, buy the 3D version. If you want the 2D version, buy it. And if you want both, buy both.
Do I like the idea of having to pay more to future-proof my collection? Not really, no. Would I much rather them include 3D/2D and leave out the DC disc and DVD copy? Yes, absolutely. But that's not their strategy this time around, so a decision is gonna have to be made. Is it the end of the world? No.

EricJ
  May 04, 2013
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@dFl, Rebel - That's why it's called a "Workaround": They had a PROBLEM, and are WORKING AROUND IT. Which, in simpler terms, means they have HEARD our complaints, and are trying to do something about it, as much as they can do in the last moments before release.
They found out too late that we would prefer 3D/2D over 3D-only -or- combos, and would you rather they have said "Okay, we'll think about it on the next set"? They're fixing it now, and that's a lot more than I expected of them right away...Heck, I'm still just getting over the pleasant shock that we're getting 3D without the combo.

Is it perfect? No--Last-ditch repair jobs rarely are. But what makes them last-ditch repair jobs is that they FIX things.
Fans who try to stop them, from cheap fanboy sword-rattling and greedy attempts to cash in free disks for "revenge"?--That's called RUINING things for the rest of us.
I'll -pay- $5 today, if it means Disney promised they learned a lesson for tomorrow. Dang, that's a bargain.

Boothill Gunslinger
  May 04, 2013
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@insane: What? You have the need for 3D glasses in the theater, too, bonehead!
Spoodbuoy
  May 04, 2013
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Hey, all you numbnuts whining about the high cost and poor quality of Disney releases. If you want to be heard, QUIT BUYING THEIR SHIT. Ya'll complain, but will be there to purchase on day 1. As the saying goes, money talks my friends, and that is the only thing Disney cares about.

Alucard64
  May 04, 2013
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@Spoodbuoy I won't be buying this. I bought Wreck it Ralph (four disc combo: Blu-Ray 3D/Blu-Ray/DVD and Digital Copy) for $22.99. I bought Beauty and the Beast(five disc combo: Blu-Ray 3D/Blu-Ray/DVD and Digital Copy) for $23.99. There's no excuse to charge as much as they are for 3D only. And then to charge $6.00 more to get the 2D disc?!? WOW!

Lino11
  May 04, 2013
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Some people plan on upgrading to 3D eventually. 2D/3D combo packs help transition that process smoother, which means more people adopt 3D. Dumb move by Disney to not include the 2D disc.

flickfever
  May 04, 2013
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What a bunch of whiners!
djoni_xu
  May 04, 2013
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It's failure experience, want drop 2DBD but still on digital disc / dvd copy. Stupid, dumb move by disney. Go to hell with your shit.

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SwaggerJagger
  May 04, 2013
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If DISNEY lets us purchase the 3D disc if we get the 2D version, I'd get it the 2D version first because I love that cover and I have it on pre-order as well along with the 3D version.

Pauliesr
  May 04, 2013
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Not jabbing at 3D owners at all as I respect their decision to buy 3D TVs BUT what's the possibility that this 'included' offer could be purchased...more so for us 2D owners. If we could all spend the $5.99 for the 2D instead of dropping the $31+ to get the un-necessary DVD and digital copy (of course opinions and needs vary for eveybody for both of these). I'd think they might get the picture also if the $31 versions sold extremely slow and the $6 versions sold like crazy.
Regardless, they dropped the ball and need to get it right. The $5.99 bone they're offering is another slap in the face to the 'consumer'. Corporate America is such an ugly beast. That's a whole other thread though.

bboehme
  May 05, 2013
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I thought it would be ok to to buy the 3D and just convert it to 2D with my t.v. However I tried that with a few of my 3D disks and noticed flickering accross the bottom of the screen. I buy Blu-ray to get the best picture, hopefully this is the last time Disney tries this.

Kevinik
  May 05, 2013
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Keep the goddamn movie! I ain't buying this shitty packages. Because if I convert a 3D into 2D it doesn't look the same, color and brightness wise. And I was planning to make a blind buy with this title, but that ain't happening no more you cheap and greedy bastards.
gizmo757
  May 05, 2013
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i will admit i saw the movie in theatres it was good but not that good, the most i would pay for 3d only because i dont use the digital copy would be 19.99, i understand a combo pack being worth 30 on sale 40 after on sale but 32 dollars for the one disc is outrageous even if this does get fixed i refuse to buy this due to unprofessionalism
gizmo757
  May 05, 2013
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for the price of a single disc should be $19.99. from the looks of it i will be canceling my pre-order unless this gets fixed, if it does not release as a combo pack for 30 bucks by release date i refuse to buy this product. even though for the most part i do not normally use the extra copies and wish i could get the 3d for 20 alone i refuse to pay 30 and not get a 3 disc combo pack
glimfeather
  May 05, 2013
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I really liked this movie in the theater. Coming out of the theater, I thought I would definitely be buying it once it came out on blu-ray, but I'm not going to with this whole stupid packaging issue. What happened to the 3D/2D/DVD/DC combo pack? I don't have a 3D TV yet, but I'm planning on getting one in the next year or so, so until then, it's nice to have the 2D blu-ray. Sometimes, I like to take a movie over to a family or friends house that don't have blu-ray yet, so the dvd comes in helpful. And I use the digital copy on my iPod. So, Disney decided to release this without the all inclusive combo pack. We get to pay more if we want 3D and 2D? I don't think so. I'm not going to buy this unless they put out a combo pack with all formats for a reasonable price. Way to make consumers angry, Disney!

elangb
  May 05, 2013
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What's with all of the negative vibe... ?

Just don't buy the movie, wait for a price drop or skip the lame 3D....
They didn't lie or cheat - there's one more month for the release date, and the package says what's inside.

Gizz
  May 05, 2013
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welcome to our world we here in the UK have been screwed over by Disney for ages. we don't get combo packs any more. The avengers Blu Ray was a debacle and some releases have not came out over here in the UK ie Dick Tracy, Arachnophobia, Ransom, Grosse Pointe Blank and Good Morning Vietnam to name a few. Disney need to listen to us but I don't think they care.

Bluyoda
  May 05, 2013
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What kind of nonsense it this???!!!!??? Have they completely lost their minds now?
Speaking for myself, I all I want is a fair choice between the 3-D, or 2-D edition of the film, meaning the only difference should be a 3-D BD of the film in the 3-D edition, not more extras, etc.. The price of the 3-D edition is more expensive anyways, so that goes without saying.

Marcuslaw
  May 05, 2013
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I'll leave the ranting about this WDHE misstep to the capable Bill Hunt over at The Digital Bits. If you don't know what I'm talking about, click over to his site and read the post entitled "One Day, Two Rants (or… They Can Take My Discs When They Pry Them from My Cold Dead Hands!)". BTW. I know it doesn't address the bigger issue, but you can pre-order a 2D/3D combo of "Oz the Great and Powerful [Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray] [Region Free]" from amazon.co.uk for a total of $29 (U.S.) (ASIN: B00BL1BIP8).
wk1947
  May 05, 2013
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After reading this today I canceled my preorder with Amazon and ordered the 3D plus Blu-ray from Amazon UK. What was Disney thinking? I have a 3D sony as my primary tv but regular flat screens in the bedrooms and the grandsons would want to watch this on blu-ray when they spend the night.

Ray O. Blu
  May 05, 2013
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They should include a voucher for a free box of Kleenex, also.

storythecorgi
  May 05, 2013
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So first they package all these unwanted discs into one case that probably only 20% people use, now they go cheap on us and make you buy an additional 2D Blu-ray? No thanks. Disney is the biggest scammer out there.

I love 3D, but realistically there are days where I just want to view the 2D version. Plus when I have company over they don't always want to view a film in 3D (there will always be 3D haters). No purchase of Oz from me.

earmullet
  May 05, 2013
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Yeah fuck all that.
batlash
  May 05, 2013
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No 3D TV. No 3D Blu-ray player. Really couldn't care less about 3D. But still, very poor move on Disney's part.

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Badas
  May 05, 2013
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What a mess. I usually buy everything. I will give this one a miss. Rent instead.
filmczy
  May 05, 2013
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Disney is just prepping the consumer for the forthcoming STAR WARS franchise on blu...

We ain't seen nothin' yet, folks...

fdm
  May 06, 2013
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Yup, looks like disney wants to go back to the glory days of LD when they could charge even more. Guess they're starting to tool up for 4K... (Good point filmczy, by the way.)

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Dead By Shaun
  May 06, 2013
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Listen up Disney! It's time to fire those flying monkeys you've got working in your public relations and marketing departments. Charging a premium for a single 3D disc and then asking for an additional $5.99 plus shipping is adding insult to injury. No 2D/3D combo pack = no sale. You lack the brains of the Scarecrow, the heart of the Tin Man, and the courage of the Cowardly Lion. We won't suffer your insolence any longer. Do not arouse the wrath of the Great and Powerful Oz! You need to give this matter a little more thought. Now go away and come back again tomorrow. The Great Oz has spoken!

Catastrophe
  May 06, 2013
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Okay, well this sounds reasonable enough. The only question I have is, will the 2D blu-ray that they send out have all the special features that the 2D-only release has?

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Lucy Diamond
  May 06, 2013
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Hmmm...

That's funny.

There's a special in-package offer I have going on in my pants that allows Disney to $uck it.

blonde_devil
  May 06, 2013
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don't have a huge issue since they are selling both a 2D and 3D version. my thought is that if you are buying the 3D version, you have the set-up for it - why would you want to watch it in 2D then?

bboisvert
  May 06, 2013
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@blonde_devil - lots of reasons. Just off the top of my head: 1. The 3D doesn't have any of the supplements. 2. Some people don't like 3D, so if you're watching with them, you'd want the 2D. 3. Maybe you're watching with a large number of people... do you have enough 3D glasses for everyone? 4. Are all of your BD players and TVs 3D-ready? (Mine aren't.)
ROBINTHEUSA
  May 06, 2013
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Dead by Shaun speaks for me and it appears most of us! Disney? Are you listening?
SuperC142
  May 06, 2013
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I cancelled my Amazon preorder today. I'm a bit sad because I was actually quite excited about this movie (which I didn't see in the theater). Hopefully they'll eventually release a proper combo box so I can buy it.
akstearman
  May 06, 2013
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I'm assuming they'll want me to clip the proof of purchase tab from the package (which I can't see myself doing), which would make still make me not purchase this one at all. I have 1 3D setup, and would be pretty upset to be limited to watching the movie on that set.

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(W)KRP
  May 07, 2013
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I'll just have to get it from a country that is not as stupid as US Disney if I get this iffy movie at all. Audiences were mixed on this. Nice visual, lack of storytelling.

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aurian
  May 07, 2013
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Just preordered the combo pack from Amazon UK. Someone posted that it has the 3D and 2D version and is region free. My total price came to around 24 dollars shipped to the US and that might go down a little more before the release date. You have to wait a month longer to get it, It comes out July 1st in England and takes about a week to arrive in the states.
prozacnation1978
  May 07, 2013
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Epic fail on Disney. They probably lost customers for this.
Hope they learn their lesson.

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rockstarnati
  May 11, 2013
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I have a 3D TV and usually buy the 3D version of everything if possible. But I rarely actually watch anything in 3D. I will probably watch the 3D version once or once in a great while. Plus my bedroom TV doesn't do 3D. There should always be a 2D option. This is ridiculous. I hope Disney learns from their mistake.
Abriel004
  May 12, 2013
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Keep the Digital Copy offers free with the purchases of these discs. I use Digital Copy and I am not paying an extra $1.99 on top of what these combo packs already cost. It's bad enough these combo packs are $22.99 or $27.99 or $34.99 and I refuse to pay an extra $1.99 on top of that. It is a total rip-off!!!!!!!
Abriel004
  May 12, 2013
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I just checked Amazon Canada, and their site displays 3D+Digital Copy and the Amazon UK site only displays 3D+Blu-Ray, no Dvd, no Digital Copy. I think the only way to go is just to buy the Blu-Ray+Dvd+Digital Copy and use the $5.99 offer to ship the 3D disc home.

I don't like it either but it's the only way NOT to double-dip at a rip-off.

DexMProductions
  May 25, 2013
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Boycotting this version until they release a 3D/2D retail combo.
HDEyes
  May 27, 2013
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Me personally don't mine 3D only discs, but the price is that of a 3 or 4 disc set!! then they say you can pay an additionally $6 for the 2D version??? These 3D discs are overpriced to begin with! come ON! why are 3D discs so much higher in price than 2D standalone's? SCAM!
Not for nothing but when do they actually print and package these discs?? if it's too late to correct this major mistake, then LOWER THE DAMN PRICE! Insane!

planetkori
  May 31, 2013
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I just received a promotional copy of OZ 3D that I have to review. I went on the Disney Rewards site to redeem my magic code but no prompt for the $5.99 2D blu-ray purchase came up yet. I got 200 points for it but no offer to buy the 2D blu-ray. I wrote them a note asking why.... Maybe it's too soon....

Also, the jewel case DOES NOT come with a second carriage slot for another disc, so it'll be double stacking... if it even fits....
shireguy
  Jun 01, 2013
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Looks like we down under are going to get the 2D and 3D version - JB HiFi has it up - at the usually OUTRAGEOUS price of $47 !!! Gee we get ripped off on 3D pricing here in Australia

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/dvd-genres/kids-family/oz-the-great-powerful-3d-blu-ray-blu-ray-digital-copy/684656


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