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Microsoft Announce Xbox One with Blu-ray Disc Playback
Posted May 22, 2013 04:49 AM by Webmaster
Last night in Redmond Microsoft announced that their new Xbox One console will come with
a Blu-ray Disc drive that will playback Blu-ray movies. Blu-ray 3D compatibility is currently
Xbox One has been pitched as an all in one media device with deep TV integration, Blu-ray
playback and gaming. It will be available worldwide in 2013 according to Microsoft. During
the event Microsoft unveiled a number of new games including Madden 25, FIFA 14, UFC
and NBA from EA Sports, all of these titles will also be available on Sony's PlayStation 4.
Exclusive titles from Microsoft's own studios includes Forza Motorsport 5 and Quantum
Break from Finnish developers, Remedy. They also launched Xbox Entertainment, an in house TV programming publisher and producer, the first show from Xbox Entertainment will be based on the incredibly successful Halo game and involve legendary director Steven Spielberg.
They also unveiled an all new Kinect sensor as well as a new controller with a new D-pad and enhanced feedback. The Kinect sensor is now designed to work in smaller rooms and records video in full HD.
A separate device will be required to access the deep TV integration shown at the event, pricing and availability of Xbox One and the TV add on remain unknown, Microsoft have promised to show us more at E3 in two weeks time.
A really smart move for the XBox, Blu-ray is the future. I'm not crazy about the look of the system or the controller. I'm quite anxious to see what the PS4 system will look like.
Over-all, the systems are very similar and eventually I may purchase both. However I'll be quite content with my PS3 for years to come and I'm sure I'll be picking up the PS4 on release day for all the exciting exclusives.
I started out being an XBox gamer, however the Playstation was more my speed with the exclusives and the over-all gaming experience. Gaming should be fun, however Microsoft made the XBox too childish and forgot to focus on the games instead of making it like a PC and media system. Games should be their first priority, not being able to turn it on by saying, "XBox on". Just silly.
They already said this was all about the hardware and that games will be covered at E3... so I don't know why people are whining about what Sony showed, especially since Sony didn't even show their console. I'm pretty excited about the new Kinect's features, the multitasking, and everything else they showed. Day one purchase for me.
This has to be a disaster, and no, I'm not having a laugh. As a 360 owner, I really wanted to be excited and hyped for the new Xbox, but I just can't with all the focus on the casual "gamer" who would rather watch TV shows than play games, and don't get me started on the whole pre-owned thing.
I don't get why people are so anti Xbox One? The May 21st conference wasn't about revealing Next gen games. It was about revealing the console and it's possibilities. E3 is 2 weeks away, you'll see ton's on games for it then.
Yeah, looks like they're focusing on the casual user more than the hard core gamer with the Xbox One. They put a heavy emphasis on the TV and movie functionality and kind of put the games on the back burner. Don't know how successful this console will be.
I'll be buying both this and PS4. Don't know why the negativity on this. No one said they'd unveil games. E3 is going to make or break next gen as each company needs to have a better lineup. Looks like console wars are back! I'll be interested to see how sales go in the first few months
I was still debating between this and the PlayStation 4, but Microsoft's handling of the unveiling and the vague statements about the "always online" and used game factors has turned me completely to the PS4. It'll take an INCREDIBLE E3 for the Xbox One to change my mind.
I personally thought Microsoft did a good job highlighting it's new system. It was quite cool seeing how simple commands can instantly put you from playing a game to watching, well, SOMEONE COME ON DOWN YOU'RE THE NEXT CONTESTANT ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT! The instant switching is a cool concept. Being able to see what's next on TV, via the Xbox, seems like a convenience. If you don't mind sounding like a Pokemon.
Power wise, it looks quite similar to the PS4. It's got a 500 GB HDD (for installing games), USB 3.0, 500 billion transistors, 8GB of RAM, 8-core CPU, HDMI, etc. More on games in a minute.
That being said, there were "unmentioned" items in the press conference everyone is up in arms over. What about the abandoning of used games eh? What about how the system will "always be on"? Or even that a Kinect is a MUST for the system? Most fan boys are up in arms not about the specs of the system, or even the lack of game discussion that will be cleared up at E3, but how Microsoft is seemingly trying to yank every last penny. Essentially when you buy your new game, you own that sucker forever as it is linked to your profile. If you want to use that profile on a new console, you must pay a fee (i.e: the cost of the game) in order to use it. It is ticking off a lot of people, and it's another example of why PS4 maybe the route for some people come launch day.
When it comes down to when the consoles are available for sale though, people are still going to buy the XBOX1. It's a familiar-enough interface with many exclusive games continuing their series' on the new platform. High-tech intrigue seems to be the XBOX's calling card for now, with the games coming later.
I have a 360 I barely play and plan to sell it an all its games. PS3 serves me well and love the games I play on it. Since both consoles will not be backwards compatible I plan on buying the PS4 but do not think I will buy the Xbox 1. It is so early in the game right now, until I see actual game play and what games are coming to it I am done with Xbox. I do find it funny that a few years ago when the war on blu-ray vs HD DVD, I could swear MS said they would never build or use blu-ray. Boo yaa!!!!!!!
This looks pretty slick. I'll stick with my 360 for another year or two then pick the One up after a price drop or two, depending on how bad M$ screws over the used game market. If they do that and Sony does not, I will be just as happy with a new PS4.
As an Xbox fan boy I'm ashamed to admit I'll be passing on this model and turning to Sony due to the always on-line connectivity requirement. Trying to gloss over the glaring error with Xbox one with a needless TV option hardly makes good business sense either...
This looks terrible. Look at the aesthetic design of that ugly thing! And it plays blurays? This is laughable as Sony talks about the PS4 playing back 4k content. Microsoft needs to sit in on a few classes taught by Japanese developers and learn a few tricks. But then again, you can't teach common sense.
You will have to be online every so often, as well as to activate a game the first time. So, no, technically not ALWAYS online. But people with no/limited internet access (still a surprising amount in the US, our infrastructure is boned) are totally excluded.
With the restrictions on used games, I see no reason why someone would still go with this over just getting a gaming PC. I thought the ease of renting/borrowing is one of the main draws of consoles for a lot of people.
Also, sidenote, all that cheering and stuff at the show was from MS employees in the back, not the press.
VaporX94 your quote is very misleading and the article from gamespot goes further. That quote is from Phil Harrison basically stating the capabilities of the system. If you read the article further it states that the console is currently setup for people to sell or trade their games. They however did design it so developers can choose to use DRM and always on connections or require additional fees for additional users.
You guys are killing me. Why would they dedicate a large amount of time in their one hour slot to games when there's the worlds biggest gaming convention in a couple weeks? Just be patient and wait to see what Microsoft has in store before leaving it for dead. Not even the WiiU went through so much scrutiny.
Amazing how many morons make ridiculous comments... Comparing or saying "ps4 is better" when it hasnt even been shown.... Complaining about the shape of the console as if that mattered much, and my favourite ones: idiot that used to criticize the xbox for its lackings that the ps3 did have like browser, netflix, etc., etc... And now criticize it because "it not just for gaming and has a lot of useless crap"....
Xbox One is made for everyone. Hardcore gamers. Casual gamers. Non gamers. The conference was just about introducing the system and its capabilities. Im surprised they showed any games at all. E3 will show a lot more. As for the look of it, i think its great. It will look nice with my entertainment unit and not stick out like a sore thumb. Im glad they did not go all fancy and maybe cause more overheating and the good ol' red ring of death. Plus im really more interested in whats inside the box. Pretty damn excited for it.
My thoughts on the Xbox One. I like the fact that it's a all in one entertainment / gamming console and it the kinect camera will be bulit into the Xbox One. But for me the main reason I might get the Xbox Box one is that it will finally have a Blu-Ray Disc drive to play back Blu-Ray movies. Also I like the fact that the Xbox controller will remain the same on the Xbox One with a redesign D Pad. Can't wait get the Xbox One in the fall winter of 2013.
I already have a gaming PC, Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii U. I was hoping that either the PS3 or Xbox One would have backwards compatibility as it would have made my choice of which one to get first much easier. Considering that neither has it, I won't bother with either on release and will wait until a must have game is exclusive to either. In the meantime my PC can max out pretty much any game out there now and for the foreseeable future, so for 3rd party my PC will be fine.
I completely agree with you on this. I have no desire to do Kinect anything! Im perfectly happy using my controller. Hopefully they will make it an option instead of mandatory before the release. But i doubt it.
I passed on the 360 in favor of the PS3. I guess im just a Sony guy when it comes to consoles. Its good that Microsoft added BD, but that "one" machine is fugly! I'll probably add a PS4 when the crazy hype dies and the prices fall in a few years
@bleeding blu.......you're exactly right, it's made to accomodate everyone. I read an article a couple of days ago that totally shocked me....the average gamer is 30 years old (32% under age 18, 31% ages 18-35, and 37% ages 36 and over AND of all that 48% are women to 52% men) that being said, there is a lot of diversity to cover when producing a console....its no longer about hardcore gaming, people want to be able to do other things with it...
I think Microsoft is smart and I think it will show in the sales this fall.....we'll see...
I own both systems, I've always been a huge fan of both, but MS' showing was so disappointing. Where is the gameplay? I wanted to see what the system was capable of in real time, not watch a bunch of pre-rendered sports and racing video sequences. And it's great that they're thinking about streaming and connectivity, but I really don't care about talking to my XBox and moving seamlessly between screens. I use my XBox and PS3 to game, not multi-task and web browse. That's what a computer is for! I also don't care to have an ugly Kinect sensor sitting on top or underneath my flatscreen. It's fine if you want to integrate it and have it as an option, but to require it? Dumb, dumb, dumb! Come on, MS!!!
I'm pretty sure that most people who cared enough to check in and watch the reveal were gamers. Gamers who wanted to see games, gameplay, and learn about the new XBox's technology and power under the hood. Instead, they spent half of the time orgasming over watching TV, music and navigating the XBox. I'm pretty sure TV show and music streaming fans weren't sitting in front of their TVs, riveted to see how the XBox works as a media center... It was gamers who cared enough to check in and watch the reveal... and what we got was things I've been doing on my computer for years, minus the motion portion. So disappointed.
Kind of surprised they went so "boxy" with it's design. Definitely harking back to the original Xbox. The Xbox One name was a total surprise, didn't expect them to go with that for it's name. It literally looks like a cable or set top box.
Also looks like there are no status lights or indicators on the front, a nice feature I've always liked about the PS3(hard drive and network activity lights). At least on the 360 you had lights telling you it was on and how many controllers were connected. Looks we don't even have that now.
"If you read the article further it states that the console is currently setup for people to sell or trade their games. They however did design it so developers can choose to use DRM and always on connections or require additional fees for additional users."
True, but they said the same thing about region coding (You don't HAVE to, but it's up to them) games and looks how that turned out. Since all the big boys have a major evil vendetta against used games and gamers, I can attest unless they get a nice kick in their bank accounts, most will have DRM and nanny connections. It is just the way they think. Billions of dollars a year and they worry about nickle and diming everyone. Thinking like that will kill the modern age of videogaming.
How many of you guys who have spouse who complaints the TV doesn't work all the time. In a few month, my wife can just say "xbox watch TV" and the TV would work. I am not as much a gamer as I once was, when people get older, they tend to have more responsibility and less time to play game. An all in one media box is perfect for me!
We use our 360 as a all in one media device aside from my gaming. So I see many of the features shown as positives for my family. I love the S type controllers, so another plus there. I'm guessing the Blu-Ray playback won't be as good or as quiet as my S790, so I'll keep that. We'll see how the games do at E3. My 360 is connected to the internet so I don't see the once a day check in as a big deal, but I am against the requirement. I'll probably be getting "The Uno."
Here's what makes no sense - If the console always has to be online, and you also have to download all of the games directly to the hard drive, why is the hard drive even necessary? Why not just stream every game through the cloud?
The specs on the Xbox One and PS4 are nearly identical. I picked up both a 360 and PS3 at launch but will only go with one this time around. I guess the games showcased at E3 will be my deciding factor.
Still not sold by either XBOne(awesome abbreviation... :/) or PS4. I don't have TV, not a fan of Kinect, nor do I care about instantly switching between what I'm doing on the console. Give me a freakin' game. I can't believe it took almost an hour to show off an even remotely appealing game. I was afraid Microsoft would focus on the features I don't care about, I was right. Sadly, the only Next Gen content I'm looking forward to is on the WiiU (yes, it's Next Gen, get over it). I'll take an HD Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros. over being able to watch The Price is Right instantly any day.
Everywhere you looked last night on gaming sites they were saying this is a disaster.
1.) Forced to pay a fee to play used games....wait....now they are claiming you won't be charged a fee?
2.) Forced to connect to the internet every 24hrs.
3.) Camera that "...always listening." ?
4.) Looks like my moms VCR from 1985
You would think Microsoft would make a gaming console instead of a TiVo. That's what DVR's are for.
From what I can tell, everything about the awkwardly-named XBox One is just an incremental improvement on the 360. I can already tell my XBox 360 what to do with vocal commands, watch TV, and browse music. Problem is, I can do that without it too. I still watch TV on my Fios box, and movies & music go through my Apple TV. To me, the XBox is a gaming machine.
They are trying to make the XBOX ONE your one stop for all your media needs. It will have a lot of video apps, Blu-ray, tv and video games. Also the always online feature will not stop you playing games if your internet goes out they have confirmed this.
@cmay13: Your article is monthly sales; SellmeyourDVD's article is cumulative sales (since launch of each console). It's very much possible that the 360 is selling more *new* consoles *per month* than the PS3, yet the PS3 still has more TOTAL consoles sold.
That said, "Xbox One"? Wasn't that the *first* Xbox? FAIL on the name, FAIL on the design. I'm not much of a gamer, but I'll stick with the PS3 till something else with a good price beats it in BD features (probably the PS4).
Somebody else said, there sure are a lot of PS fanboys in here. Someone also mentioned the fact that they called it "one" was uninteresting or what not... what the PS naming it 1, 2, 3 & 4 is imaginative? MOST of you need to CALM THE F*CK DOWN and wait less than 3 weeks when MS can talk about games and start releasing all the little fine print stuff some of want to know about. BTW... what did Sony REALLY say in February? Not much more, if at all, than MS did yesterday. Here's something to watch out for, remember yesterdays conference, and see how much of that falls out of Sonys mouth all a sudden in the next few weeks as well! Hey we have that too! Yeah as of yesterday you did!
I hope you guys also read into the internet connectivity. Microsoft has stated it only needs to be connected to the internet ONCE A DAY. And not for the whole day either. Do we all realize that everything we use practically goes to the internet once a day outside of cooking/driving appliances?
It shouldn't be any surprise that the new system uses BD. There aren't really any other viable options, unless they plan on spreading the next generation of games across 3-4 dvds instead of 2 or prematurely endorsing downloads-only. Any requirement that mandates internet connection is a potential deal breaker for me though.
BTW, it's the game developers who want DRM, since they're the ones losing money on used sells. Microsoft is more likely just accomodating what they've asked for. It's up to consumers, speaking through their wallets, to ultimately decide if the movement lives or dies. I'll be reserving judgement (and purchase of this console) until we see how its implemented: how many games support it, how much the used fees are, etc. Adding a used fee but eliminating unique multiplayer codes might offset, for the most part. If that's what they've got in mind, it really wouldn't be any different than the way things are now, assuming the used fee and cost of a new multiplayer code are about equal. If they tack on a used fee on top of the current extra fees levied on the used market for full game functionality, that would be too inexcusable for me.
From what I've read it will be a major pass for me. I hate the Kinect and I can't play my old 360 without paying a fee?! Unforgivable!
Still I'll be able to watch my blu rays, play my media files and it'll be housed in a console that looks like a cross between the original Nintendo and a Laser Disc player.... Also I'll need to connect it online once a day and have a camera pointed at me due to the compulsory Kinect device it comes with. Bill Gates clearly has watched Sliver one time too many.
First day buy for me, Xbox rocks ps so hard, i have both consoles now, but for me xbox is the winner, better games,better interface, 10 times better speed on wifi, and achievements so much cooler than trophys. and forza motorsport the best racing game in the world, only negative thing with xbox is the soundlevel on the console, but it will be better for sure with xbox one.
I bought an Xbox before it became popular, knowing it was going to smoke the Playstation...and the Playstation hasn't been able to keep up the pace ever since. Now with bluray, it's still Xbox all the way in this house.
From what I've heard so far, this will be a no-go for me. Your friends can't borrow your games without paying the price for the game to use it on their account. It has to be online all the time AND it has a camera that is required to be on for the system to function. (What could possibly go wrong here?). Big Brother Xbox? Pass.
im a gamer in my early 30's. i think games and consoles have come a long way. these days seems that online has taken over and a foundation for these next gen consoles. i remember the days of gaming when you had monthly mags, gamepro, egm, nintendo power, etc and you had to actually play the game and figure most of it out by yourself. not a straight to online to find out how to do it kind of world. what happened to entering codes with the gamepad to get special things? i play cod and love it. im not bashing next gen systems, but its getting further away from its roots as a gaming console imo.
What upsets me about Xbox One is that it's not going to be backwards compatible with Xbox 360 games. In this day and age, it would be very easy for them to make the Xbox One read Xbox 360 discs. I'm a big Xbox supporter(since Halo 2), but if Microsoft goes so far as to not allow us to redownload and play our Games on Demand and Xbox Live Arcade games, then that'll be the deal breaker for me as I'd view that as willful neglect.
I agree with Robert De Niro. The same thing can also be said of the PS4. Besides the user it's going to effect game developers also. For instance Battlefield 4 is slated to be released on September 29th on the PC, PS3, and Xbox 360. But it'll be released for the new consoles when the new consoles are released sometime before the christmas holiday. Assuming the price point is $499.00 for the consoles and that BF4 is released the same day, then I will wait to purchase BF4 until then. If I'm not the only one to do this and others do this too, that means possible lack luster sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 version which also means reduced revenue for EA. If this is repeated with other titles, then there is going to be a huge sales void until the new consoles come out. No wonder GameStop's stock dropped yesterday. Not good... Not good at all!
There CAN'T be backwards compatibility for either PS4 or Xbox One because the system architecture is completely changing (Cell to x86 for PS4 and PowerPC to x86 for Xbox One). The only way they could pull off backwards compatibility is the same way the PS3 did at first - by putting the entire PS2 chipset in the system as well (which drove up the price). No one should be surprised that the complete change in system architecture makes backwards compatibility impossible.
And don't assume that Sony isn't doing online DRM either. They said the PS4 could play used games... but they were very careful not to say HOW. Don't think Microsoft came up with this stuff on their own accord; it's the DEVELOPERS who want it. But ultimately, it's a necessary evil for not having to keep the disc in the system to play, since you could just pass the disc on to someone else. They have to have SOME way to authenticate it or there would be no financial incentive to make games anymore.
I honestly thought Microsoft would put up more of a fight. For me, the PS4 has already won. It's just better in every respect that matters to me, unless they somehow manage to make it uglier than this 1980s throwback.
I would assume it will play Blu-ray movie discs if they're touting it as a home entertainment hub, but then I would have also assumed they wouldn't go insane trying to charge people licence fees for used games and requiring the console to phone home every 24 hours, so you never know.
The online check-in is the single worst idea ever (and there's A LOT of bad ideas being implemented in this system, so that's saying something). This means that some day when Microsoft 'retires' and no longer supports the system, you instantly lose access to any games purchased. No thanks!!!
Of course they don't even really want you to keep them that long as deleting content to make room for new content will likely be needed regularly. The 500GB hard drive is going to fill up quick with entire games needing to be installed on it... and it can't even be upgraded! 500GB might be great for the current consoles that don't require full gane installs, but a few years from now that 500GB is going to sound as small as the 20GB hard drive that the 360 launched with sounds now.
Then there's the stupid used games issue. This system has FAIL written all over it. And I say this as a multi console gamer. Traditionally I have purchased all of the systems for the past several generations. That won't be the case this time!
I REALLY hope Sony doesn't follow suit. So far the PS4 is sounding much better, and I doubt they will go as far as Microsoft is, but there's still a lot that we don't know about it, so I'm taking a cautious watch and wait stance.
This whole NextGen situation is a real downer for me. This whole charging for playing games on friends system is disappointing. What if movie companies decide to start doing this? What if I buy a DVD or blu-ray and I want to lend it to a friend? Are they going to have to pay to watch? Rediculous!
I don't want to skype. Ever.
I don't want to watch tv on a video game system
I don't want to stay connected to the internet
I don't want the xbox to recognize my voice. That is creepy
I don't want to not be able to play a used game
I don't want to have to update my video game every other day
I don't want to have to "check in" when I play a game
I'm "shocked" that on a bluray forum, dominated by Sony cock-gobblers that there's so much hate for an Xbox system not even released yet.
Lol, I see a lot of suppositions based on rumor and misinformation.
Didn't anyone catch that they are going to have 15 exclusives in the first year? 10 more than PS4, 8 of them new franchises.
I'll be getting both systems though first off I will get this one as I've been a bigger fan of the 360 than the PS3 (still mainly a bluray player for me) not to mention Xbox live over PSN is a given.
I would think you'd all be stoked that Bluray has yet another platform with which to invade people's homes. I can't wait to get my hands on this thing, I just hope it plays 3D as well!
I'm sure has been touched upon somewhere, but what is this system going to do to services like GameFly? Paying to play a pre-owned game or rented game is just effing ridiculous. Not many people have $60 bucks to piss away to buy every single game they want to play. I'm sure we'll find out more about this... but how many ways can you spin the fact that you have to pay even more to play a pre-owned, pre-played game into a positive?
@ SonOfArathorn, see my comment just a few above yours...
The things that I listed there are amongst the main reasons that people are upset with this thing. Yeah, it's great that it can play Blu-Rays. That is a positive, but hardly enough to make it worth while given the VAST amount of negatives.
What they are doing is completely taking away ownership of the gaming content. Even putting aside the used games issue (which is a big one), the problem is the lack of control that we will have over the content that is purchased new. You have to periodically (at least once every 24 hours, as has been reported) "check in" online in order for your single player game to EVEN WORK. If for any reason your internet is down for longer than that, YOU CANNOT PLAY YOUR SINGLE PLAYER OR LOCAL MULTIPLAYER GAMES AT ALL!!!
This means that, just like the PS2, original Xbox, and all systems that came before them that have been retired (and eventually the PS3 and 360 in the next few years) , when the Xbox One is retired someday, and network support is dropped for it, you will instantly lose access to any games purchased.
Now, granted, when newer systems come out, I tend to play them more than the older systems, but I do still keep my older systems and play them from time to time. I don't trade them in.
My collection of systems includes:
NES top loading model 2 (my wife's from before we got married)
Sega Genesis (model 1)
Sega CD add-on (model 2)
Two Playstation 2's (one being mine from when it launched, the other being my wife's that she had before we were married)
Nintendo Gamecube - Black (the one I originally bought)
Nintendo Gamecube - Silver (my wife's that she bought before we got married)
Xbox 360 (20GB original model... refurbished replacement from when my original RRODed)
Xbox 360 (250 GB 'slimmer' remodel)
Playstation 3 (80GB "phat" model with PS2 compatibility)
Playstation 3 (120GB "slim" model)
Nintendo Wii U (black deluxe model)
...I won't bother listing my portable systems
As such, long term control and ownership of my content is EXTREMELY important to me. I have no interest in buying any system that will be selling me over glorified licensed rentals that I will lose due to some stupid 'check in' system one day. I don't care how many exclusives it has, I don't care how great those games are. Honestly, if anything, if the games really are that awesome, I play them, and "fall in love" with them, I'll just be that much more angry down the road when my access to them gets pulled.
The used games issue also upsets me because even though I buy most of my games new and don't trade things in, the used games market benefits me because if down the road after a system is retired my system wears out or breaks, a game gets damaged or scratched, I can hunt down replacements, and for the most part thus far everything essentially works on an 'interchangeable parts' basis. That will no longer be the case here with Xbox One.
This isn't me speaking as some kind of "Sony Fanboy." I have systems from both companies. As I said in my earlier comment, I'm taking a cautious watch and wait stance with the PS4 as we don't know that much about it yet, and some of these measures or ones similar to them could be implemented for all we know. I certainly hope not, as I'd like to get at least one of the two systems. But if the PS4 proves to be as restrictive as the Xbox One or close enough to it, that will not be added to my collection either.
This is about taking a stand against ridiculous, restrictive policies. Enough is enough. I'm already worried about the keeping my DLC from the current systems after they are retired. If a system dies after that happens, access is lost. At least I'm able to download the DLC to both of my PS3s and use it offline. 360 only let's you do that with one unit. For this reason amongst others, I have come to prefer the PS3 over the 360, but I went into that generation favoring the Xbox brand, so by no means am I a 'fanboy'... I just end up preferring the systems that have the best combinations of the most positives with the fewest negatives for my personal preferences and tastes. Right now the Xbox One is going completely against anything and everything I stand for as a gamer. If PS4 follows suit, I will feel the same way about that unit (I just hope it doesn't come to that).
I honestly don't know what to think about the Xbox One quite yet. The discussions on having to pay fees if you purchase a used copy of a game (essentially a disc that is for media storage only, not actively required to play the game), needing an Internet connection to even use your console (even if it's once every 24 hours it's still dumb for those without a stable connection), and then the possibility that the developers could require an always-on connection to even be able to play what you purchased. I get that they are trying to beef up security and put a damper on hacking and all of that, but part of the joy of console versus PC gaming has been the ability to swap games and discover a new experience. If they take that part of the experience away, what is really going to distinguish consoles from PCs in the future? I realize a lot has changed since the days of the NES, N64 and the PSone, but I don't think the world (or more specifically the US) is quite ready for what MS is looking to achieve. I am attempting to reserve my final judgment for E3, but right now - if Sony goes the opposite direction from MS - I am thinking about getting the PS4.
@Dynamo of Eternia.
The problem is that these members come in here and bash it without knowing anything about the Xbox One (or about a the touch of a beautiful woman).
At least your argument was informative and backed with reason, knowledge and the information at hand.
Still, from a gaming vantage point, the Xbox always had the better controller and exclusives. We'll just have to wait and see about the other stuff
Although I know aesthetics of the box itself is one of the least important factors in it's overall quality, I have to say I'm shocked they went back to a big fat plain box, which seems like a back step after the last one at least was a little sexier.
That first impression out of the way, I'd have to say everything else about the announcement kind of fell in line with my impression of it visually. Very very clunky.
* The Kinect requirement wasn't unexpected, but the "It takes HD video!" part kind of made me shudder - no, I do not want an HD camera pointed at my living room couch permanently. I know it's no different than Kinnect, but the "HEY IT'S IN HD!" part made me kind of think about it for the first time. It's not about any actual security worry, but I just...can't wrap my head around liking that on principle (I think I read 1984 too many times LOL).
* All the TV interaction crap - which requires an external device on top of it? Because I need yet another device in my entertainment center, and that clunky square box just wasn't big enough to fit it in...I have a feeling this may not even actually see release, like the N64DD, or if it does will be extremely limited with limited support like the Sega CD. I don't know many people that a) actually have a problem playing their content in any way this will help (it will have the same limited services as everyone else, no one system aside from a real computer server can play all media types and all services), and b) all these external boxes are a temporary market, as SmartTVs start to become standard they will be obsolete soon enough. And I can already instantly flip between my game and a TV show - it's called the Input button on my receiver remote. And, I can't remember the last time I watched live TV anyway, that's why the good Lord invented the TiVo.
* The always online thing is incredibly annoying, and simply a cash grab - like Apple not putting a Micro SD slot in iDevices. Why put a slot that gives the user unlimited storage when you can charge $100 for each 8 or 16GB hardwired in, when if they just put one in a customer could have 10x that much card storage for the same price. Same deal here - it's simply to control the devices and the game content. I bet a lot of those shady used game stores are going to not push these new systems like they did the last generation for this very issue. There is no valid reason for it that benefits people - I'm fine without weather widgets and stuff on my game machine, that's why I have a smart phone and tablet.
There are many other things...but I just don't see this one as a game changer, it's like Microsoft took every half-baked idea from 2005 and put it into this system, ignoring every development or change in user needs/habits we have learned since then. It's like it was developed by a bunch of 80 year olds who were trying to make it have all the things "those kids of today want".
I do want to skype.
I do want to watch tv on a video game system
I don't MIND Being connected to the internet
I do want the xbox to recognize my voice.
I do want to the xbox to update my video game, when Im away
you see is all about prefrences, personally the XBOX suits ME! both consoles are very powerful machines. I have nothing against PS3 I owned every genration, and most likely get both consoles. The bashing doesnt make any sense.
It's fine to want those things. And like you, I don't "mind" being connected to the internet. Honestly when I'm using my PS3, 360, or Wii U now, I'm typically connected.
But what I do mind is the connection being required to simply use my content at all. When the PS3 is retired one day and network support is dropped for it, I can still play the games that I have for it. The same won't be the case with Xbox One. THAT is a huge deal breaker for me. And honestly as a sheer standpoint of principle, it should be a deal breaker for everyone, even if you don't tend to play your older systems after you get the newer ones. It should remain an OPTION to choose whether or not to play the older games... not something that is forced upon us one way or the other.
Why all the fuss over the rectangular shape? Who wants a sexy shape console!!?
Is your cable box a sexy shape?
Is your bluray player a sexy shape?
Is your DVR or TiVo a sexy shape?
Is your Home Theater/Surround Sound Receiver a sexy shape?
They're all rectangular
Let me preface by saying I am a die hard Ps3 guy (I have 5 in my home). After seeing the Xbox One announcement, knowing that both systems will be basically the same hardware, I am leaning toward the One. The whole home integration thing is what has swayed me. Being able to turn on the tv, change channel, search for something to watch, search the internet, etc. is just an amazing convenience.
Just like computer software, you aren't actually "buying" games. You're licensing them. Read the EULA on software. Why anyone is surprised that console gaming is headed in this direction is beyond me. Yes, it's different than what we're used to... but it's a necessary evil with what these new systems are trying to achieve. Playing games from discs is no longer feasible. As a method of transferring the data, they're necessary because of our crappy infrastructure, but this is basically a half-step toward full digital purchasing and the complete absence of physical media altogether. If you didn't see it coming with all the online pass stuff EA and other companies have pulled with used games, you really weren't paying attention. And if you think Sony isn't going to do something similar, you're delusional. This is what developers require to get away from physical media without fear of piracy.
As far as which system to buy for games, I say reserve judgment until E3... when we actually see what these systems do with games. Jumping to conclusions now is silly.
The last time I tried, they worked fine offline, and I have my RB song collection on 360. I'll have to try it again soon to double check.
I don't know what problem you are having, but I just unplugged my wifi modem to make sure the internet wasn't on, turned on my Xbox 360, put in Rock Band 3, and I was able to play my DLC songs just fine. I'm not sure what is going on with your set up.
Anyway we could get a breakdown on how you spent $10,000 on this game? The only way I can figure it is if you bought every single song ever released (4,257) and paid $2 each (even though when you buy packs they discount the songs and a TON of songs are only $1, so it actually probably averages out to about $1.5 a song, but whatever) and all the full instrument versions of each game. I'm just really curious and not trying to be a jerk. I love Rock Band, I have almost 1500 songs in my song library in the game and I've bought every one of the games that's come out (including the portable versions) and I doubt I've even spent $2000. As a collector it interests me though how you were able to do it.
Sorry this (↑) is totally off subject of the Xbox One.
So I'll just say I'm not interested in the system at all. Alot of the negatives that have already been mentioned 1000 times and the fact that this generation I only play (hahaha) Rock Band, Halo, Gears of War and Alan Wake on my 360 and everything else on my PS3. Which is odd because I was a Xbox fanatic when the 360 came out. I just grew away from it after 5 hardware failures, a corrupt gamer profile deleting all of my game saves & (as a single player campaign gamer only) the need for Live to use features like Netflix, Hulu or Vudu. I don't think ill of those that love their 360, but it's just not the system that fits my needs and usage.
@THGhost your comment is just one more based on nothing... So it's "specs" are better and that will make it win, huh? And you surely base that on the current gen consoles, where the PS3 was also better specced and oh guess what, it didn't "win"...
I dunno but I wish I had that option. While Xbox or ISP messes around, I've been without Internet. I can play disc songs and I mean completely random DLC. 1 out of 100 songs might work.
Oh I just remembered being in the US and using my profile to sign in on my friends console.. I could not play a single DLC song from my friends console because she wasn't signed in. As soon as I signed her in, i got instant access to all her songs.
Of the 4,237 songs I know about, that's around $6300 at 1.5. Never got a deal. Add all the instruments and games that RB supported, and it's closer to $7,500 I spent. Sorry, I just threw that number out there. Lol
We like the rest of the world will own the PS4 kinda like how people use iPods and iPads instead of Zune and Surface.
"What the HELL are you on about? WON WHAT?"
Well, all I was saying was that the PS4 has, for me (that is, in my humble opinion), won the ultra-secret competition I am not going to explain any further known as 'which of the soon-to-be released video game consoles am I more likely to buy'. Sorry if that makes no sense to you!
Also: people you disagree with are allowed to participate, that doesn't make them trolls. Internet forums / comments threads would be boring if everyone just agreed about everything, wouldn't they?
I will be purchasing both new consoles at launch. Honestly looking more forward to Xbox one. Look how much the 360 does over the original, comparatively its about the same as this next step. As for the ps4, at least they improved the controller. Can't wait for these things to come out
I've gone through four XBOX360 systems because of the "red ring of death" issues. I'm not rushing to get any new gaming system from Microsoft until I know for sure that I won't be geting the same hardware issues with the new XBOX system.
I don't care if all they talked about tv... tv.... sports... call of duty. They got all that boring stuff out of the way for e3. Sure they will still talk about it then but not as indepth as the showcase. And again, I was going into the showcase wanting to see the system and not knowing they would even talk about games. So not disappointed at all.
Aside from the stuff after the conference, that really should have been the things they talked about.
It's obvious they will have something in play for used games. Probably your activation code gets deactivated when you trade it in or maybe a new one generates completely. They already have a system in place for this with dlc bonuses so it's not hard to rule out.
Waiting until after e3 to be bitchy about the system. Cause you know, even with 15 exclusives, one of them is bound to be kinect related.
I'm very concerned about the direction that the gaming industry is taking. I'm a long time playstation fan, but even some of their new stuff has got me raising an eyebrow. These people must not have heard the term "if it isn't broke, then dont fix it." The previous gen of systems (ps2,xbox,gamecube) hit the perfect sweet spot, in that they were simple; games and a dvd player (minus the gc of course.) I feel like they're trying to cram way to much crap into these things and its all stuff that I couldn't care less for. Just give me a box that can play some sweet games and movies.
For the fanboys, I do actually like all these systems and look forward to the new ones. That said,
I have 2 Hard Drives for my 360 and around 50 games which are digital. I'm over 500GB of space. If I read correctly, the ONE will only have 500GB and you will not be able to switch Drives? Hmm
I have 2 PS3's with 800GB worth of space. I have less than a 100GB left thanks to PS+ free games. 500GB on the PS4 is good only if you can switch drives in my opinion.
I have 1,830GB of space on my Wii U, YES 1,830GB of FREE space on my Wii U. I have roughly 10 digital games on it.
It cost me $150 to get a 2TB USB Hard Drive for the Wii U. I would triple that price to get that space on my PS3 or 360!
PS4. It'll obviously have blu ray player and they seems to be more focused on games this time around and Xbox on peripherals. Why would someone need a cable DVR on their game system? Don't most cable boxes come with a DVR these days? Plus there's TiVo.
I don't know... don't wanna buy a used game for the same price. Not in my lifetime, so I'm done with gaming. Selling all my games (save a few for absolute collection love)... thanks for letting most gamers down.
Are these consoles going to be enough for you to buy one? Many of the features are not things that I am interested in. I purchased a Playstation 3 the first weel that it came out for $599 if I remember correctly. The price for these consoles is going to be high. I'm not sure that I'll be purchasing either when they launch. Maybe by the time they have a price drop a year later is when I'll think about it. I'm happy playing my Playstation.
The main problem with the people intoday world is that were all fucking greedy And change is no good to million's out there.Deal with it people this is 2013.Sometime's u have to just wait and see what happen's.dont talk crap about something that not even on the market yet.and why are u bitching when if u dont like it DONT BUY IT shit.what is with u all.if i dont liek something u know what i do .i dont buy it i stick with what i own.and I DEAL WITH IT!! so stop this complaing wait till E3 u never know u might want to see what microsoft has in store for E32013.that 2 week's oe less away its june 10.
Dude, people are only responding to what Microsoft have told the world about their product. Some like what they hear, some don't. That's what comments threads are for - making comments. If Microsoft wanted a better reaction to their presentation and announcements, they had the power to do so by making a product that didn't apparently feature so many aspects that sound really horrible...