At E3 last night Sony revealed the price of the PlayStation 4. It will be $399 in the US and
€399/£349 in Europe. They also revealed the design, a very slick looking box with elements
that hark back to the PlayStation 2 Slim edition. Jack Tretton, SCEA President, also announced on stage that Sony would not impose sanctions on used games, trading or lending and that there would be no internet check in requirements.
At the event SCEA showed a plethora of services and games including a new exclusive content deal with Sony's internal movie and television production studio Sony Pictures Entertainment. Details on the scope of this deal will be released later in the year according to Michael Lynton, President and CEO of SPE.
Of the games shown highlights included Square Enix's long awaited Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which has now transformed into Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III was also presented by Square Enix. Sony also showed a number of first party games including the long awaited new franchise from Insmoniac spin-off Ready At Dawn (makers of God of War: Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta) and Sony Santa Monica studio - The Order: 1886, set in Victorian London it follows a mysterious group of characters fighting a war against an unknown enemy. Also present were new trailers for previously announced games Knack, Killzone Shadow Fall, Driveclub and Infamous Second Son. There were also a number of third party games shown on stage the most high profile of which was Bungie's Destiny. The formerly Xbox exclusive developer chose the PS4 event for the gameplay reveal of their multi-platform title and also announced a multi-year exclusive content deal with Sony for their title.
The company also announced that PlayStation Plus would carry over to PS4 but in a slightly sour note that online multi-player gaming would require a subcription to PlayStation Plus, though only one active subscription will be required per console for all accounts to play online. Media features such as Netflix, Hulu and Crackle (and others) remain free to use and do not require a PS+ subscription to use. A deal with Verizon and Coinstar was also announced to bring Redbox Instant to PS3.
Gaikai was also present with the revelation that Sony's cloud service would make its way to PS4 and PS3 in 2014 and will offer select PS3 games via streaming. This opens up the possibility of some kind of backwards compatibility with PS3 for PS4 users, but more details will be required before any judgements can be passed.
Towards the end of the conference Jack Tretton came back on stage to inform the millions watching and waiting about PS4's online DRM policies and suffice it to say that everyone came away happy. Possibly the biggest cheer of any E3 in recent times came when Tretton announced that PS4 would not have any used game restrictions and would not have any mandated online check-in requirements as seen with Microsoft's Xbox One. While it may seem strange for a continuation of current policies to garner the largest cheers, after a high profile anti-DRM campaign by gamers over the last two weeks Sony have responded, and so did gamers all over the world. Sony also released this cheeky video just minutes after the announcement:
At the end of the conference Andrew House, SCE global president and CEO, announced that the console would go on sale for $399 in the US and €399/£349 in Europe and will be available in these two regions during the "holiday season" this year. Japanese and Asian availability has not been confirmed for 2013, the Tokyo Games Show in September will likely be the venue for the pricing and availability announcements in these regions.
And Micro$oft lost. Cheaper at launch, no restrictions on used games, and no forced internet connection. That guarantees my switch. As a long time Xbox 360 fan, I'm officially switching over to Sony's console this time around.
Sony has won me back. Although having both consoles I preferred the 360, m$ stranglehold on me got real tight and tiring. The requirements of the xone was more than I can accept. Good job Sony for putting gamers and your customers first!
I've never even touched a PS3, for no reason other than I was happy with my 360. But it looks like I'll be making the switch for the next generation. The fact that you don't have to be online is what sold it for me. I'm not worried about my internet connection, I'm worried about Microsoft's servers. After the disasters of the Diablo III and SimCity launches, you'd have to be insane to buy an entire console that requires a connection (even if it's only once a day) for single player games.
I'll really miss Gears of War but I hear good things about this Uncharted fellow.
As someone who never thought I would ever buy a Sony console before an XBox, Sony definitely won me over. A $399 price point and no restrictions on what I can do with my hard earned physical game discs? Sign me up! Microsoft severely blew it. I guess that'll make me a PSWii4U (?) owner this generation. Oh, and Elder Scrolls Online on the PS4? Awesome!!!
Looks good, apart from the lack of 4k upscaling, and the fantasy exchange rates as per usual. So €1=$1 does it, Sony? How many of the Euros you've earned as a big company with currency reserves would you trade with me for dollars at that rate then? At the exchange rate listed right now, the PS4 should cost almost exactly €300, not €1 short of €400.
PS4 owned the E3 IMO!
As poster said above only negative thing for Sony is that " You must be a PS+ member to play your games online. ". I have PS+ and it's SO Worth it! Free Games, Discounts, Cloud Service,etc
Also Best Buy has deal till 6/22 take $10.00 off the $49.99 PLUS card so 12 months for $39.99 is great! It's like $3.33 a month for PS+.. A steal! Sony Wins!
Final Score: Playstation: 4 - Xbox : 1
Xbox down! Someone call an ambulance... Wii U Wii U Wii U...
I have a ps3 and really like it but there were some things on the xbox one that looked good Ryse, killer instinct and Forza 5 , also the Skype on the big screen is cool. Ps4 didnt wow me on the games but the price point and not having those dumb online check ins is alot better. Xbox one is also more expensive because it comes with Kinect, ps4 you need to buy the ps eye which will be 60. I havn't made my choice yet.
As a long time Xbox owner and Microsoft supporter, they really dropped the ball on this one. I will be buying the PS4 on day one. Tom Clancy's The Division looks spectacular. Who can forget Destiny which looks like Halo on roids? Everyone has already said why this trumps Xbox.
I too would be interested to see if it will indeed play blu rays from any region since the article states Region Free (for games though...). Im going to guess it will be Region Free for movies as well....dont see why they would block that and allow games on the other hand.
I wasnt planning on getting the PS4 since I use my PS3 for 99% movie watching only. However, if the PS4 is indeed Region Free, this would be a worthy upgrade for me.
EDIT: Thanks RBBritain for the clarifaction. Would make the PS4 hands down the best blu ray player of the lot if it ever was Region Free for movies as well out of the box.
@tonylopez (edit: and Caesu): The IGN article I read says the PS4 is region-free for games, basically no different from the PS3 (IIRC the PS3 had region locking but no one used it). It does *NOT* mention BDs; about the only way I see region-free BD playback is if Sony strong-armed the BDA into dropping its region requirements altogether. (Edit: Sony controls the region rules for PS games, but *not* for BDs & DVDs.)
Still, though I'm not really a gamer (my PS3 is mainly for BDs, not games), Sony has clearly won this generation before it even started thanks to M$' stupid anti-used-game DRM -- not to mention the PS4's launch price is $100 less than the Xbox One. (Wii U? Like Dxtra30 said, that's just an ambulance. )
@goldie1970 - "wait for the inevitable larger hard drive" ... or you could just put your own larger hard drive in, as has been confirmed via Twitter.
@Caesu & @RBBrittain - There is NO WAY IN THE FIERY PITS OF HADES that the PS4 will be region free for BDs. Games are all distributed worldwide by their one individual publisher/distributor. That is why they can be region free. The income from every territory flows straight into one corporate bank account. With films, there are sometimes several distribution studios handling the same films in different territories. THIS is the reason that region coding exists. It is so that the people in a specific region are sending their money to the licensed distribution studio. Region free BD hardware will never happen from a company that is involved in film production/distribution themselves.
P.S. Forgot to post what I originally came here to post.
PAID IN FULL!!! #1 ON THE LIST!!! Just have to show up on the release date. And, since I won't have to spend any money on the console that day, I'll have plenty of incentive to spend money on.... anything else that I want to go with it!
I'll still wait a couple years, since I'm totally happy with my PS3, but this looks like a great win for Sony. I don't care about Playstation Plus subscription fees, since I don't play online anyway... which is still winning territory for Sony, for at least keeping some things the way they are, instead of trying to force everybody to change the way they play games, like M$ has been doing: I don't want to play online, I don't want to check-in online, and I don't want to pay a monthly fee (or a license fee) just to use single-player games that I already paid for. Up yours M$, you're not doing business in a vacuum, time to face some financial consequences.
Gates and Co. might as well just start developing their games for PS4 now, Sony dropped the nuke on them yesterday, in every way possible. MS has a handful of great exclusives, but that's the only reason to even have an Xbox, and I don't see myself getting this one. Once their new system fails miserably, they should just go the way of Sega, and develop Halo, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Fable, and Forza for Playsation and be done with it.
360 user, but I've already preordered a PS4 - MS' antics (mandatory camera, online checks, focus on multimedia instead of gaming, etc) told me they're heading in a different direction than what I want.
I'm getting one for sure but no way am I pre-ordering, I'll wait for the first round of duds to be sold and fixed before I lay down my cash, it will be a great machine but I've learned from past experience; avoid the first-generation of new consoles at all costs.
I see where you're coming from on that, but look at the comments. Basically, the difference between Microsoft and Sony on that issue are as follows:
Some games already require a sort of additional fee system on the current gen (for example, from what I've heard EA does that). Sony is just keeping things in that respect exactly the same as the current gen. Microsoft is adding the 24 hour check-in requirement because of the requirement to install games to the hard drive, to make sure people don't try to "game the system" (which, with games getting to the size they are, especially with Microsoft migrating to Blu-ray discs to store games on, should fill up the hard drive rather quickly). Not to mention that if the internet is unavailable for 24 hours in a location, the XB1 becomes useless to you (for example, I have friends in the military, and the check-in alone would make it useless on some of these bases).
To put it very simply: On PS4, if you don't like the idea of a fee to play a game or trade it, just don't buy that specific game. On XB1, it seems that adopting that train of thought would render the vast majority of games, if not all, unbuyable.
I streamed the E3 press conference last night and was thoroughly impressed by what Sony said and showed on all fronts. I hope Sony regains a firm hold on the gaming industry this upcoming gen, much like it did during the GameCube/PS2/Xbox days. Frankly I never understood how Xbox 360 gained so much momentum and fanbase. Sure, it came out one year ahead of the PS3 and was priced lower, but PS3 was such a better built system and had so many more internal and external features (no HDMI port? no usb charging cables for controllers? No blu-ray player? No free Xbox Live? RED RING OF DEATH?!)--Xbox 360 was a cheap POS. And exclusives? I know there was far more than two, but I only consider Halo and Gears as arguing points for Microsoft. PS3 had a lot more exclusives that gathered my attention and I trust it to continue with the PS4. Sony has my full support, that's for certain.
Unfortunately it will be $599 in Australia. Yet again Australia is punished for some reason. Our dollar is actually worth more than the US dollar but we have to pay $200 more for the console? Something is wrong here.
yeah, guess i am confused. sony said they were not, but third parties could restrict. i sent blu-ray.com the link, but it seems they only deemed it important to emphasize the part about sony not doing it themselves. like i said, i have never owned a game system, and yes, the microsoft internet requirement, which i am not sure everyone truly knows how it will work, seems to be the main difference. otherwise, they seem like similar policies to me.
like i said, i am not a gamer, and have never owned a system. i was just reporting what i read from the verge. my only comment on all the comments in that thread is that all the sony people are saying it is nothing, while all the xbox people are saying it is the same. as expected. i can see where the internet thing with microsoft could be the one main difference, but to be honest, i am not really sure if anyone outside of ms really knows how that will work at this point.
EDIT: i just saw that the verge updated their article
Amazon.ca had to stop taking pre-orders late last night. That says a lot. I waited too long to pre-order from them. I did see the add to cart option, price & release date. I don't know what Amazon.com is doing, have not checked but up north the PS4 is already sold out.
You pay for subscription on Xbox with live but so it's not a prob for me as my Xbox live is up at Xmas but not just subscription, it's the price and the thought that if you are always connected and have to check in every 24 hours what is the real reason for this maybe so they can monitor or conversations and stuff. Not worried about region lock as never buy games from other countries but there is just something about Microsoft that doesn't ring well. Also coz me and my son both use xboxes means I won't be ble to lend his games like I do now so there is another reason why PS4 has won me over now.
Well, I'm not really a gamer anymore (the only current gen system I have is the PS3, which I won for free in a contest, and I use that primarily as a Blu-Ray player), but if I do decide to get a new system, the PS4 will be it.
Already pre-ordered from Amazon. I've been a PS+ member since the program started and have enjoyed it. The free games they pick are generally pretty good especially on Vita. PC + PS4 + Vita + 3DS is the way to go this gen. Maybe Wii U later after a price drop and a larger catalog of great exclusives.
360 owner here, and I will be jumping ship for PS4. MicroGREED is out of their minds.
They nickel and dimed me to death, and over the life of the 360, I have had to replace three of them due to RRoDs, the last of which was my 3-year-old Elite that gave me a ring of fire only two weeks ago.
I'm sick to death of how MS presents their videogame products like we the consumers are being ALLOWED to pay for some kind of privilege. Even if MS puts on the breaks and tries to reverse some of their BS before "The One's" launch, they have forever lost me as a customer. Just this year, I finally dropped the cash on a Macbook after two decades of dealing with buggy Windows PCs.
Goodbye Microsoft. The only thing I will miss is GEARS and your Xbox controllers, which were my all-time favorite design (they feel just right).
So, how long will it take until we see One video sites, where infiltrated Xboxes have their cameras hacked to show embarrassing and funny spy videos of people in their homes?
I'm just happy that not only does the PS4 specs seem amazing, compared to the Wii U and the Xbox One, it is epically gorgeous. Glad that PS4 will have physical media, used game capabilities, headphones, camera and etc. Plus their ad killed it again although I wish it was Kevin Butler in the commercial or appeared in another E3 conference as he did a year or two ago.
More power, less big brother, upgradable hard drive, and $100 cheaper. Easy choice. Pre-ordered the PS4 and a couple games. You'd think Microsoft would allow folks to upgrade the hard drive considering their mandatory full game installs - so many idiotic decisions for the Xbox One.
from my experience, the first year many Playstation fans bought the XBOX for next gen gaming, as they didn't want to wait a long time for the new PS console and they bought the PS3 some time after. Microsoft won't have this advantage this time the PS fans will buy the PS4 straight away.
SMH. You CAN play used games on the One. It's not forced, a developer has the option to not allow it. So far, none have come forward as backing it. As for internet checkin, it sucks, but not an inconvenience, my X-Box is on the internet everyday for Media Center or Netflix. I think both consoles are fugly though. I love my 360 controllers though, I have had problems with the PS controllers since the One came out. I still will be holding onto my S790 for Blu-Ray.
Weird how you failed to notice that exact link already posted elsewhere in the comments. Also, weird how you failed to read the actual article, especially the part where it states:
"Update 2: Sony has issued a statement confirming that Tretton was referring specifically "playing used games online" and DRM mechanisms that have already been seen on the PlayStation 3...", i.e. Online passes and such.
I'm as excited as anyone for the PS4, I'm already picturing how incredible MLB The Show will be on a next-gen console but honestly I think anyone who preorders this machine or buys within the first couple months is crazy, you know there will be glitches a plenty, there always are with the first run of consoles, I'd rather be able to buy it a few months late and have no problems rather than be an early adopter and be on hold with Sony customer service for hours.
Just got back from Gamestop, put $100 to guarantee me a system and reserved BF4. They will give me $140 for my fat 80gb PS3 but I'm picking up The Last of Us on Friday, so I'll sell it at a later date.
@SixSpeedSamurai It's actually one hell of an inconvenience if your internet goes down for more than 24-hours (which has happened to me quite a few times). After the first day, you've got a brick until you get service again (which, ironically, is when you'd want the diversion of your console the most).
I actually am not buying a PS4 until Grand Theft Auto V gets a PS4 release or a whole new GTA comes out. I would also buy a PS4 for a new Red Dead game as well. I already pre-ordered Grand Theft Auto V for PS3... Until R* gets a PS4 version or a new Red Dead on the market this Cat ain't buying a PS4. But this PS$ looks great and sounds amazing! Can't wait till good games come out for it. Not many games I like nowadays except R* games.
They probably will, but they've been slowly tightening their grip on videogame consumers for a while now. The plans they announced are only one part of several years of MS forcing gamers to play how THEY want you too. I'm done with their company for good. Over the past couple of years, I have been changing things like my computer, phone, and what-not over to Apple, and now I'm going to get my console from Sony. I no longer own any Microsoft products, and if at all possible I plan on keeping it that way.
As an apple fan Ive never even considered buying any kind of MS device EVER. Good for Sony not gouging at launch, a decent $399 price i can except and get behind. I dont like having to PS+for online, but at $50 per year i will live with it. I like that current ps accounts will transfer to ps4. Titles i hope to see soon on ps4, little big planet3, Mod Nation Racer2, DC Universe Online(which was announced), Star Wars Battlefront! (Announced by EA! YES YES YES!!)
Ray is right, Microsoft will stick with their bad ideas and ride them all the way until they crash into the ground. Look how during the entire lifecycle of the 360, they refused to put a blu-ray drive in it, even though they needed to.
I ordered my PS4 from Amazon.com only 2 days ago... I just received an email from them saying...
(Thank you for pre-ordering the PlayStation 4. Yesterday we made a change to the name of the product by adding "Launch" and "Standard" editions, which may have caused confusion for some of our customers.
We are writing to confirm that you ordered the "Launch Edition," which is Release-Day Delivery eligible. All other aspects of the two editions are identical.)
I wasn't expecting that at all as I know how quickly pre-orders for the PS4 were made and reading that loads of places had it listed as sold out.
Really looking forward to Black Flag and Watchdogs... First 2 PS4 games I ordered and both are the collectors editions from Ubisoft website.
smh, yet another site that I frequent that is filled with Sony fanboys. First IGN and now here. I try to remain neutral, but you people are really starting to get on my nerves. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than downvote every comment that says anything remotely positive about the Xbox One? It's a difference of opinion, you don't have to agree with the other person, but at least respect that they can have their own opinion. Even people who just stated that they were buying both the PS4 and Xbox One are getting downvoted...
does Amazon wait to charge your card til this item is available? I want to preorder but I don't want to pay $400 now for an item I won't receive til December. Sorry if this is a dumb question but I rarely, if ever, preorder items.
In regards to you having to have a PS+ subscription, in order to play multiplayer... I'll just say this: Most 360 players are already paying for Xbox live anyways( one year of PS+ is cheaper than a year of XBL right?). Also, you get cloud saving, cloud service, free games EVERY month/etc......
Win/win for anyone who plays games.
Not sure there are any games coming this year that I can't wait to play or wouldn't be content with the PS3 editions. But, the price is more tempting than I expected. If it drops in my goldbox, I'll definitely preorder, even if it is too late for a launch edition.