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PlayStation 4 Price Revealed, $399, €399 and £349

Posted June 11, 2013 05:18 AM by Webmaster

PlayStation 4At E3 last night Sony revealed the price of the PlayStation 4. It will be $399 in the US and €399/£349 in Europe. They also revealed the design, a very slick looking box with elements that hark back to the PlayStation 2 Slim edition. Jack Tretton, SCEA President, also announced on stage that Sony would not impose sanctions on used games, trading or lending and that there would be no internet check in requirements.



At the event SCEA showed a plethora of services and games including a new exclusive content deal with Sony's internal movie and television production studio Sony Pictures Entertainment. Details on the scope of this deal will be released later in the year according to Michael Lynton, President and CEO of SPE.



Of the games shown highlights included Square Enix's long awaited Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which has now transformed into Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III was also presented by Square Enix. Sony also showed a number of first party games including the long awaited new franchise from Insmoniac spin-off Ready At Dawn (makers of God of War: Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta) and Sony Santa Monica studio - The Order: 1886, set in Victorian London it follows a mysterious group of characters fighting a war against an unknown enemy. Also present were new trailers for previously announced games Knack, Killzone Shadow Fall, Driveclub and Infamous Second Son. There were also a number of third party games shown on stage the most high profile of which was Bungie's Destiny. The formerly Xbox exclusive developer chose the PS4 event for the gameplay reveal of their multi-platform title and also announced a multi-year exclusive content deal with Sony for their title.



The company also announced that PlayStation Plus would carry over to PS4 but in a slightly sour note that online multi-player gaming would require a subcription to PlayStation Plus, though only one active subscription will be required per console for all accounts to play online. Media features such as Netflix, Hulu and Crackle (and others) remain free to use and do not require a PS+ subscription to use. A deal with Verizon and Coinstar was also announced to bring Redbox Instant to PS3.



Gaikai was also present with the revelation that Sony's cloud service would make its way to PS4 and PS3 in 2014 and will offer select PS3 games via streaming. This opens up the possibility of some kind of backwards compatibility with PS3 for PS4 users, but more details will be required before any judgements can be passed.



Towards the end of the conference Jack Tretton came back on stage to inform the millions watching and waiting about PS4's online DRM policies and suffice it to say that everyone came away happy. Possibly the biggest cheer of any E3 in recent times came when Tretton announced that PS4 would not have any used game restrictions and would not have any mandated online check-in requirements as seen with Microsoft's Xbox One. While it may seem strange for a continuation of current policies to garner the largest cheers, after a high profile anti-DRM campaign by gamers over the last two weeks Sony have responded, and so did gamers all over the world. Sony also released this cheeky video just minutes after the announcement:



At the end of the conference Andrew House, SCE global president and CEO, announced that the console would go on sale for $399 in the US and €399/£349 in Europe and will be available in these two regions during the "holiday season" this year. Japanese and Asian availability has not been confirmed for 2013, the Tokyo Games Show in September will likely be the venue for the pricing and availability announcements in these regions.






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News comments (128 comments)



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CReaper210
  Jun 11, 2013
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And Micro$oft lost. Cheaper at launch, no restrictions on used games, and no forced internet connection. That guarantees my switch. As a long time Xbox 360 fan, I'm officially switching over to Sony's console this time around.
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mywhitenoise
  Jun 11, 2013
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Killed it.

Doomnaut
  Jun 11, 2013
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epic win for sony

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repete66211
  Jun 11, 2013
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Sony demonstrates the benefit of being second in line by capitalizing on all the negative feedback Xbox experienced. So how about backwards compatibility?

Mr. Joshua
  Jun 11, 2013
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What about region free for blu-rays?

Canvas of Flesh
  Jun 11, 2013
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I've already pre-ordered mine. I didn't think I'd end up being this excited about it and figured I'd probably wait a couple of years, but I really liked what I saw.

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un4gvn94538
  Jun 11, 2013
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Sony has won me back. Although having both consoles I preferred the 360, m$ stranglehold on me got real tight and tiring. The requirements of the xone was more than I can accept. Good job Sony for putting gamers and your customers first!

tonylopez
  Jun 11, 2013
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I read on IGN that the PS4 is region free!

AlpsStranger
  Jun 11, 2013
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I've never even touched a PS3, for no reason other than I was happy with my 360. But it looks like I'll be making the switch for the next generation. The fact that you don't have to be online is what sold it for me. I'm not worried about my internet connection, I'm worried about Microsoft's servers. After the disasters of the Diablo III and SimCity launches, you'd have to be insane to buy an entire console that requires a connection (even if it's only once a day) for single player games.

I'll really miss Gears of War but I hear good things about this Uncharted fellow.

Petra_Kalbrain
  Jun 11, 2013
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Been waiting in the chill night air for the last 4 hours to be first to pre-order at my local EB Games store. Only 2.25 hours to go!

m1k5
  Jun 11, 2013
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Ive been an Xbox guy for the last 4 years...but not anymore after what MS is doing with that joke of a game system XB1...ive put in my preorder for a PS4!

Deja 101
  Jun 11, 2013
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6/10/13 The Day SONY destroyed the competition.... BTW I pre ordered it this morning and they confirmed it to be Region Free Blu Ray Player....if this is true, this makes me one very happy nerd

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BigNickUK
  Jun 11, 2013
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The PS4 (like the PS3) is region free for games not blu rays....the studios control the BD movie regions due to different territorial release dates etc

Phatjedi
  Jun 11, 2013
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All ready sold my 360. Keeping PS3 and cannot wait till this bad boy comes out.

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rickah88
  Jun 11, 2013
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Just preorderd from Amazon. I can finally rotate my fat PS3 to the basement, effectively lightening it's workload.

ozzsoad
  Jun 11, 2013
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As someone who never thought I would ever buy a Sony console before an XBox, Sony definitely won me over. A $399 price point and no restrictions on what I can do with my hard earned physical game discs? Sign me up! Microsoft severely blew it. I guess that'll make me a PSWii4U (?) owner this generation. Oh, and Elder Scrolls Online on the PS4? Awesome!!!
slaughinghouse
  Jun 11, 2013
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Only real downer that I saw was that you must be a PS+ member to play your games online. Adds another 50-60 bucks to total cost. Gran Turismo 6 will absolutely MAKE me pay that.

countprice
  Jun 11, 2013
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Pre ordered on Amazon as soon as I got the notification last night. Definitely excited.

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donzo29
  Jun 11, 2013
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That about seals it for me. PS4 please!
insomniac013
  Jun 11, 2013
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Who the hell wants an Xbox after this. Microsoft wont survive this generation sorely due to their own incompetence, i'll tell you that right now.
Mr Blue
  Jun 11, 2013
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Looks good, apart from the lack of 4k upscaling, and the fantasy exchange rates as per usual. So €1=$1 does it, Sony? How many of the Euros you've earned as a big company with currency reserves would you trade with me for dollars at that rate then? At the exchange rate listed right now, the PS4 should cost almost exactly €300, not €1 short of €400.
Dxtra30
  Jun 11, 2013
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PS4 owned the E3 IMO!
As poster said above only negative thing for Sony is that " You must be a PS+ member to play your games online. ". I have PS+ and it's SO Worth it! Free Games, Discounts, Cloud Service,etc
Also Best Buy has deal till 6/22 take $10.00 off the $49.99 PLUS card so 12 months for $39.99 is great! It's like $3.33 a month for PS+.. A steal! Sony Wins!

Final Score: Playstation: 4 - Xbox : 1
Xbox down! Someone call an ambulance... Wii U Wii U Wii U...

Galley
  Jun 11, 2013
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Any word on SACD playback?

pedromc69
  Jun 11, 2013
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I have a ps3 and really like it but there were some things on the xbox one that looked good Ryse, killer instinct and Forza 5 , also the Skype on the big screen is cool. Ps4 didnt wow me on the games but the price point and not having those dumb online check ins is alot better. Xbox one is also more expensive because it comes with Kinect, ps4 you need to buy the ps eye which will be 60. I havn't made my choice yet.

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Grim Reaper
  Jun 11, 2013
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pre-ordered my ps4 & 6 games...

BleedingBlu
  Jun 11, 2013
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No HDMI in? No thanks.

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BigNickUK
  Jun 11, 2013
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HDMI in for what?

UNCMT9
  Jun 11, 2013
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As a long time Xbox owner and Microsoft supporter, they really dropped the ball on this one. I will be buying the PS4 on day one. Tom Clancy's The Division looks spectacular. Who can forget Destiny which looks like Halo on roids? Everyone has already said why this trumps Xbox.

Microsoft is losing fans and fast.

BleedingBlu
  Jun 11, 2013
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@ BigNickUK

It just gives you more options in the long run. People who are primarily in it for the gaming prob wont care too much about this though. Heres a link although its a little dated.

http://kotaku.com/the-next-xbox-may-have-an-hdmi-in-port-so-472235857
Caesu
  Jun 11, 2013
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I just saw an article on Gamespot.com stating the Region Free confirmation here:

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/sony-confirms-playstation-4-is-region-free-6409771/

I too would be interested to see if it will indeed play blu rays from any region since the article states Region Free (for games though...). Im going to guess it will be Region Free for movies as well....dont see why they would block that and allow games on the other hand.

I wasnt planning on getting the PS4 since I use my PS3 for 99% movie watching only. However, if the PS4 is indeed Region Free, this would be a worthy upgrade for me.

EDIT: Thanks RBBritain for the clarifaction. Would make the PS4 hands down the best blu ray player of the lot if it ever was Region Free for movies as well out of the box.

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RBBrittain
  Jun 11, 2013
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@tonylopez (edit: and Caesu): The IGN article I read says the PS4 is region-free for games, basically no different from the PS3 (IIRC the PS3 had region locking but no one used it). It does *NOT* mention BDs; about the only way I see region-free BD playback is if Sony strong-armed the BDA into dropping its region requirements altogether. (Edit: Sony controls the region rules for PS games, but *not* for BDs & DVDs.)

Still, though I'm not really a gamer (my PS3 is mainly for BDs, not games), Sony has clearly won this generation before it even started thanks to M$' stupid anti-used-game DRM -- not to mention the PS4's launch price is $100 less than the Xbox One. (Wii U? Like Dxtra30 said, that's just an ambulance. )

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Dalsk
  Jun 11, 2013
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Flawless win for Sony.
The only downside for me will be the payable online play.
But I would love if the console could read every Blu-Ray in the world without Region restriction.

Croweyes1121
  Jun 11, 2013
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Sony should change the name of the console to the PS: Won just to be funny.

goldie1970
  Jun 11, 2013
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While I will definitely be getting the PS4, I think I will wait for the inevitable larger hard drive ....maybe!

This thing looks like a home run!

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Canada
  Jun 11, 2013
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The "this is how you share games on the PS4" commercial is excellent, as Bane said "So simple, so easy". I say if the enemy has a weakness, exploit it!
atomik kinder
  Jun 11, 2013
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Preordered.

Petra_Kalbrain
  Jun 11, 2013
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@goldie1970 - "wait for the inevitable larger hard drive" ... or you could just put your own larger hard drive in, as has been confirmed via Twitter.

@Caesu & @RBBrittain - There is NO WAY IN THE FIERY PITS OF HADES that the PS4 will be region free for BDs. Games are all distributed worldwide by their one individual publisher/distributor. That is why they can be region free. The income from every territory flows straight into one corporate bank account. With films, there are sometimes several distribution studios handling the same films in different territories. THIS is the reason that region coding exists. It is so that the people in a specific region are sending their money to the licensed distribution studio. Region free BD hardware will never happen from a company that is involved in film production/distribution themselves.

Petra_Kalbrain
  Jun 11, 2013
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P.S. Forgot to post what I originally came here to post.

PAID IN FULL!!! #1 ON THE LIST!!! Just have to show up on the release date. And, since I won't have to spend any money on the console that day, I'll have plenty of incentive to spend money on.... anything else that I want to go with it!
mjbethancourt
  Jun 11, 2013
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I'll still wait a couple years, since I'm totally happy with my PS3, but this looks like a great win for Sony. I don't care about Playstation Plus subscription fees, since I don't play online anyway... which is still winning territory for Sony, for at least keeping some things the way they are, instead of trying to force everybody to change the way they play games, like M$ has been doing: I don't want to play online, I don't want to check-in online, and I don't want to pay a monthly fee (or a license fee) just to use single-player games that I already paid for. Up yours M$, you're not doing business in a vacuum, time to face some financial consequences.
insomniac013
  Jun 11, 2013
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MKV playback please?

Tom Servo
  Jun 11, 2013
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Gates and Co. might as well just start developing their games for PS4 now, Sony dropped the nuke on them yesterday, in every way possible. MS has a handful of great exclusives, but that's the only reason to even have an Xbox, and I don't see myself getting this one. Once their new system fails miserably, they should just go the way of Sega, and develop Halo, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Fable, and Forza for Playsation and be done with it.

Rothwilder Blu
  Jun 11, 2013
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MKV would be a welcome change

skylog
  Jun 11, 2013
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i've got no skin in this game, but for all those citing the "used games" policy, SONY has already stepped back from that...

essentially, from what i understand, the same policy as microsoft?

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4419566/sony-jack-tretton-publishers-can-choose-to-enforce-drm

kind of hilarious actually. set it up to take all the praise with the spotlight on, but then...

threefiftyrocket
  Jun 11, 2013
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@Croweyes

"Sony should change the name of the console to the PS: Won just to be funny. "

Comment of the day... love that idea

lutefisk69
  Jun 11, 2013
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If backwards compatibility shows up, I will be buying sooner than later.

mseeley
  Jun 11, 2013
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Preordered!!!!
thenumber9
  Jun 11, 2013
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360 user, but I've already preordered a PS4 - MS' antics (mandatory camera, online checks, focus on multimedia instead of gaming, etc) told me they're heading in a different direction than what I want.

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nathanp
  Jun 11, 2013
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I'm getting one for sure but no way am I pre-ordering, I'll wait for the first round of duds to be sold and fixed before I lay down my cash, it will be a great machine but I've learned from past experience; avoid the first-generation of new consoles at all costs.

coolkev1701
  Jun 11, 2013
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Preordered mine through Amazon, looking forward to it!
rblum199
  Jun 11, 2013
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@skylog

I see where you're coming from on that, but look at the comments. Basically, the difference between Microsoft and Sony on that issue are as follows:

Some games already require a sort of additional fee system on the current gen (for example, from what I've heard EA does that). Sony is just keeping things in that respect exactly the same as the current gen. Microsoft is adding the 24 hour check-in requirement because of the requirement to install games to the hard drive, to make sure people don't try to "game the system" (which, with games getting to the size they are, especially with Microsoft migrating to Blu-ray discs to store games on, should fill up the hard drive rather quickly). Not to mention that if the internet is unavailable for 24 hours in a location, the XB1 becomes useless to you (for example, I have friends in the military, and the check-in alone would make it useless on some of these bases).

To put it very simply: On PS4, if you don't like the idea of a fee to play a game or trade it, just don't buy that specific game. On XB1, it seems that adopting that train of thought would render the vast majority of games, if not all, unbuyable.

Canvas of Flesh
  Jun 11, 2013
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@skylog:
Looks like they updated with clarification after you posted the link.

Lino11
  Jun 11, 2013
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You gotta pay $5 monthly for online multiplayer play. Netflix and apps like that are free, but online gaming is a mandatory PS+ subscription.

:-(

mjcavinder
  Jun 11, 2013
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heres what Sony did...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdfztAY3qoU
Undercutters by Tom Green

kelvin555
  Jun 11, 2013
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Ill be getting the Xbox I don't play used games and my Xbox is always connected to the interent anyway. Especially if its wireless, I don't see the big deal.

X400
  Jun 11, 2013
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Lets not forget that the Xbox One is Region Locked and Asia will not get the Xbox One until the Winter 2014

Playstation 4 however is Region Free (like the PS3) and I don't mean region-free blu-rays mind you Im speaking simply of the gaming unit/games

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Lopan
  Jun 11, 2013
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Like a true gamer, I pre-ordered both systems. No hate here, just excited to keep gaming.

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VaporX94
  Jun 11, 2013
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I streamed the E3 press conference last night and was thoroughly impressed by what Sony said and showed on all fronts. I hope Sony regains a firm hold on the gaming industry this upcoming gen, much like it did during the GameCube/PS2/Xbox days. Frankly I never understood how Xbox 360 gained so much momentum and fanbase. Sure, it came out one year ahead of the PS3 and was priced lower, but PS3 was such a better built system and had so many more internal and external features (no HDMI port? no usb charging cables for controllers? No blu-ray player? No free Xbox Live? RED RING OF DEATH?!)--Xbox 360 was a cheap POS. And exclusives? I know there was far more than two, but I only consider Halo and Gears as arguing points for Microsoft. PS3 had a lot more exclusives that gathered my attention and I trust it to continue with the PS4. Sony has my full support, that's for certain.

The Bluray King
  Jun 11, 2013
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ps4 looks like a razor blade i like it.xbox one i like too soorry not a fanboy just a gamer.

Atheist
  Jun 11, 2013
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I think MicroSquash (makers of the world's 1st Anti-Gamer Gaming System) is making its grand exit from the Console Market and the XBoxNone is their not-so-graceful middle finger to us all.

Long live Sony!!!! :-D

xSCARFACEx
  Jun 11, 2013
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"PS4 but in a slightly sour note that online multi-player gaming would require a subscription to PlayStation Plus"

This is absolute b.s. and everyone knows it.

Also the article misspelled subcription

pksmith74
  Jun 11, 2013
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Unfortunately it will be $599 in Australia. Yet again Australia is punished for some reason. Our dollar is actually worth more than the US dollar but we have to pay $200 more for the console? Something is wrong here.

skylog
  Jun 11, 2013
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@canvas of flesh

yeah, guess i am confused. sony said they were not, but third parties could restrict. i sent blu-ray.com the link, but it seems they only deemed it important to emphasize the part about sony not doing it themselves. like i said, i have never owned a game system, and yes, the microsoft internet requirement, which i am not sure everyone truly knows how it will work, seems to be the main difference. otherwise, they seem like similar policies to me.

EDIT: just saw the updates to the verge article

skylog
  Jun 11, 2013
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@rblum199

like i said, i am not a gamer, and have never owned a system. i was just reporting what i read from the verge. my only comment on all the comments in that thread is that all the sony people are saying it is nothing, while all the xbox people are saying it is the same. as expected. i can see where the internet thing with microsoft could be the one main difference, but to be honest, i am not really sure if anyone outside of ms really knows how that will work at this point.

EDIT: i just saw that the verge updated their article

Dracosfan33
  Jun 11, 2013
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Never had a play station and this time I will break my piggy bank (lol) and get one. Sounds fantastic. Can't wait.
popeflick
  Jun 11, 2013
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Meh. I like the Microsoft user interface better, and it's what we'll be doing in 10 years time when we run our houses through a computer. This feels so 2009.

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Derb
  Jun 11, 2013
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Amazon.ca had to stop taking pre-orders late last night. That says a lot. I waited too long to pre-order from them. I did see the add to cart option, price & release date. I don't know what Amazon.com is doing, have not checked but up north the PS4 is already sold out.
fromthemakerof
  Jun 11, 2013
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I can't wait to see MLB 14 The Show on PS4.

SenorHelsinki
  Jun 11, 2013
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I will get the PS4 a little bit later until Sony fix the glitches first. Usually, I never buy 1st generation console. I'm still happy with my PS3 for now. Game over Mirco$oft.

davewhit
  Jun 11, 2013
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You pay for subscription on Xbox with live but so it's not a prob for me as my Xbox live is up at Xmas but not just subscription, it's the price and the thought that if you are always connected and have to check in every 24 hours what is the real reason for this maybe so they can monitor or conversations and stuff. Not worried about region lock as never buy games from other countries but there is just something about Microsoft that doesn't ring well. Also coz me and my son both use xboxes means I won't be ble to lend his games like I do now so there is another reason why PS4 has won me over now.

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Derb
  Jun 11, 2013
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Ooo

Got my pre-order in. Not from Amazon. lol

Thought about getting the ONE too.. but that thought lasted 1.84 seconds. Can't wait for Free Drive Club and also got Watch Dogs for $10 less than retail. PS4life!

MTRodaba2468
  Jun 11, 2013
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Well, I'm not really a gamer anymore (the only current gen system I have is the PS3, which I won for free in a contest, and I use that primarily as a Blu-Ray player), but if I do decide to get a new system, the PS4 will be it.

mattymoron
  Jun 11, 2013
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This is a huge win for consume rights. Sony knocked it out of the park with this one.

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RAZGRIZ-1
  Jun 11, 2013
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Already pre-ordered from Amazon. I've been a PS+ member since the program started and have enjoyed it. The free games they pick are generally pretty good especially on Vita. PC + PS4 + Vita + 3DS is the way to go this gen. Maybe Wii U later after a price drop and a larger catalog of great exclusives.

BouCoupDinkyDau
  Jun 12, 2013
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360 owner here, and I will be jumping ship for PS4. MicroGREED is out of their minds.

They nickel and dimed me to death, and over the life of the 360, I have had to replace three of them due to RRoDs, the last of which was my 3-year-old Elite that gave me a ring of fire only two weeks ago.

I'm sick to death of how MS presents their videogame products like we the consumers are being ALLOWED to pay for some kind of privilege. Even if MS puts on the breaks and tries to reverse some of their BS before "The One's" launch, they have forever lost me as a customer. Just this year, I finally dropped the cash on a Macbook after two decades of dealing with buggy Windows PCs.

Goodbye Microsoft. The only thing I will miss is GEARS and your Xbox controllers, which were my all-time favorite design (they feel just right).

So, how long will it take until we see One video sites, where infiltrated Xboxes have their cameras hacked to show embarrassing and funny spy videos of people in their homes?

bluman67
  Jun 12, 2013
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To me it all depends on the feel of the new Sony controller, I love the 360 controller and that is why I prefer the 360. If the PS4 controller feels good in my hands I'm done with Xbox!

cornbread_1788
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm just happy that not only does the PS4 specs seem amazing, compared to the Wii U and the Xbox One, it is epically gorgeous. Glad that PS4 will have physical media, used game capabilities, headphones, camera and etc. Plus their ad killed it again although I wish it was Kevin Butler in the commercial or appeared in another E3 conference as he did a year or two ago.

troykan
  Jun 12, 2013
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Sony PS4 gives XBOX the Slam Down!

Danny Victory
  Jun 12, 2013
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Pre-ordering the PS4 tomorrow. I don't think I will touch a Xbox One, until the price drops down to $300-$400. I sold my Xbox 360 six weeks ago.

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Bourne1886
  Jun 12, 2013
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Looks like Xbox have shot themselves in the foot!
PS4 is the clear winner. Good news about the second hand games market indeed. I've never owned an Xbox. Battlefield 4 anyone!?

Captain Mal
  Jun 12, 2013
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More power, less big brother, upgradable hard drive, and $100 cheaper. Easy choice. Pre-ordered the PS4 and a couple games. You'd think Microsoft would allow folks to upgrade the hard drive considering their mandatory full game installs - so many idiotic decisions for the Xbox One.

Pulp Burchardt
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm still trying to figure out whether or not this is a true region-free player, meaning it will play all-region movies and not just games. Anybody got the final word on this?

TheTenth
  Jun 12, 2013
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from my experience, the first year many Playstation fans bought the XBOX for next gen gaming, as they didn't want to wait a long time for the new PS console and they bought the PS3 some time after. Microsoft won't have this advantage this time the PS fans will buy the PS4 straight away.

Captain Mal
  Jun 12, 2013
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@ Pulp

No, the PS4 is not a region free blu-ray player. It's only region free for games.

dwane5
  Jun 12, 2013
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i'll be on this like bug on stank.

UNCMT9
  Jun 12, 2013
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Preorder placed. Trading my Xbox 360 for in store credit. It was a nice run, Microsoft.

SixSpeedSamurai
  Jun 12, 2013
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SMH. You CAN play used games on the One. It's not forced, a developer has the option to not allow it. So far, none have come forward as backing it. As for internet checkin, it sucks, but not an inconvenience, my X-Box is on the internet everyday for Media Center or Netflix. I think both consoles are fugly though. I love my 360 controllers though, I have had problems with the PS controllers since the One came out. I still will be holding onto my S790 for Blu-Ray.
SonOfArathorn
  Jun 12, 2013
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Weird how no one on the Sony wagon is mentioning this..... http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4419566/sony-jack-tretton-publishers-can-choose-to-enforce-drm

Either way, I'll end up with both systems, as always. Xbox first, PS4 sometime in the spring.

Canvas of Flesh
  Jun 12, 2013
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@SonOfArathorn

Weird how you failed to notice that exact link already posted elsewhere in the comments. Also, weird how you failed to read the actual article, especially the part where it states:

"Update 2: Sony has issued a statement confirming that Tretton was referring specifically "playing used games online" and DRM mechanisms that have already been seen on the PlayStation 3...", i.e. Online passes and such.

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nathanp
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm as excited as anyone for the PS4, I'm already picturing how incredible MLB The Show will be on a next-gen console but honestly I think anyone who preorders this machine or buys within the first couple months is crazy, you know there will be glitches a plenty, there always are with the first run of consoles, I'd rather be able to buy it a few months late and have no problems rather than be an early adopter and be on hold with Sony customer service for hours.

jawsfan1975
  Jun 12, 2013
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Just got back from Gamestop, put $100 to guarantee me a system and reserved BF4. They will give me $140 for my fat 80gb PS3 but I'm picking up The Last of Us on Friday, so I'll sell it at a later date.

Croweyes1121
  Jun 12, 2013
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@SixSpeedSamurai It's actually one hell of an inconvenience if your internet goes down for more than 24-hours (which has happened to me quite a few times). After the first day, you've got a brick until you get service again (which, ironically, is when you'd want the diversion of your console the most).

I*heart*Criterion
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'll wait for the Criterion edition...

cramped_misfit90
  Jun 12, 2013
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I actually am not buying a PS4 until Grand Theft Auto V gets a PS4 release or a whole new GTA comes out. I would also buy a PS4 for a new Red Dead game as well. I already pre-ordered Grand Theft Auto V for PS3... Until R* gets a PS4 version or a new Red Dead on the market this Cat ain't buying a PS4. But this PS$ looks great and sounds amazing! Can't wait till good games come out for it. Not many games I like nowadays except R* games.

Yankees0222
  Jun 12, 2013
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JUst got back from trading in my PS3 Slim and games at gamestop.... Preordered PS4, a controller and Madden

now the wait begins

Terminated
  Jun 12, 2013
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So what happens when Microsoft decides to change their plan???
How many (PS4'ERS) will jump ship:)

plenipote
  Jun 12, 2013
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I have been, and still am, a very happy PS3 owner since it came out, and I will be a PS4 owner on day one.
The Division looks awesome, and I wonder if AC4 will be released for the PS3 and/or the PS4?

Terminated
  Jun 12, 2013
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Everyone walk towards the CLOUD...crossover children all are welcome. all welcome there is serenity in the CLOUD...
vintageracer
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm hoping all this anti DRM push back gets Microsoft to change. Only 3 reasons to stay with Xbox now (I've been a loyal Xbox buy since the original xbox) - Forza, Halo, and probably the most important thing, Kinect (which I love)

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BluPat
  Jun 12, 2013
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Pre-ordered on Amazon yesterday for my other half. He loves games, consoles and Final Fantasy. =)
demetrios
  Jun 12, 2013
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Sweet!! Can't wait!!

BouCoupDinkyDau
  Jun 12, 2013
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@ Terminated

They probably will, but they've been slowly tightening their grip on videogame consumers for a while now. The plans they announced are only one part of several years of MS forcing gamers to play how THEY want you too. I'm done with their company for good. Over the past couple of years, I have been changing things like my computer, phone, and what-not over to Apple, and now I'm going to get my console from Sony. I no longer own any Microsoft products, and if at all possible I plan on keeping it that way.

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Shin-Ra
  Jun 12, 2013
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I look forward to seeing the Blu-ray video player improvements. Quicker Java loading etc.

Network23
  Jun 12, 2013
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As an apple fan Ive never even considered buying any kind of MS device EVER. Good for Sony not gouging at launch, a decent $399 price i can except and get behind. I dont like having to PS+for online, but at $50 per year i will live with it. I like that current ps accounts will transfer to ps4. Titles i hope to see soon on ps4, little big planet3, Mod Nation Racer2, DC Universe Online(which was announced), Star Wars Battlefront! (Announced by EA! YES YES YES!!)

DR BLU NEO
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm going to wait a bit this time around. I'm happy with my PS3 and the collection of games. I will get the PS4, but I want to wait a bit so they can get the bugs worked out and price drops a bit.

billzfan
  Jun 12, 2013
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I'm getting xbox one. Xbox live is still way better than PSN.

Chas79
  Jun 12, 2013
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Ordered the Xbox one and PS4. Looking forward to both systems. I understand people's concerns on the Xbox but they are not my concerns.

BobbyMcGee
  Jun 12, 2013
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Already pre-ordered the PS4 from Best Buy w/ store pick-up. Hopefully, Best Buy doesn't screw me over if this is a hot seller.

I also pre-ordered an extra controller and the eye thingy from Amazon.

Ray O. Blu
  Jun 13, 2013
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"So what happens when Microsoft decides to change their plan???"

And scrap eight years of designing the Xbox One?

Not gonna happen. The specs/details they announced are final. This isn't a public-reaction Beta test.

Preordered a PS4 with Amazon Prime.
Free release-day delivery, ZERO LINES, No crowds: Priceless

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Derb
  Jun 13, 2013
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http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/playstation-4-playstation-4-console-400100653302/10254140.aspx?path=b54d479edfebd60b97aeb3e316d35bd3en02

Got mine in before this happened

coolkev1701
  Jun 13, 2013
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Ray is right, Microsoft will stick with their bad ideas and ride them all the way until they crash into the ground. Look how during the entire lifecycle of the 360, they refused to put a blu-ray drive in it, even though they needed to.
BluRayFreak
  Jun 13, 2013
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For people complaining about paying $60/yr for a subscription, here's a breakdown:

$60/yr
$5/mo
$1.15/week
$0.16/day
$0.01/hour

Really--complaining about paying $0.01 an hour, especially when you're going to pay $400+ for a system and $60 +/- per game?

Think of it this way:
12 grande-size cappuccinos at Starbucks (1 a month)
3 new-release Blu-Rays (or 2 Criterion Editions LOL)
TGReaper
  Jun 13, 2013
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I ordered my PS4 from Amazon.com only 2 days ago... I just received an email from them saying...

(Thank you for pre-ordering the PlayStation 4. Yesterday we made a change to the name of the product by adding "Launch" and "Standard" editions, which may have caused confusion for some of our customers.

We are writing to confirm that you ordered the "Launch Edition," which is Release-Day Delivery eligible. All other aspects of the two editions are identical.)

I wasn't expecting that at all as I know how quickly pre-orders for the PS4 were made and reading that loads of places had it listed as sold out.

Really looking forward to Black Flag and Watchdogs... First 2 PS4 games I ordered and both are the collectors editions from Ubisoft website.

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Rike255
  Jun 13, 2013
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Pre-ordered mine yesterday from Sony store :)

snipemonkey
  Jun 13, 2013
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I'll be keeping my Xbox 360 because... well, Grand Theft Auto 5, but I won't be getting an Xbox One. PS4 it is! Micro$oft really screwed the pooch this time, as far as I'm concerned.
Luke S.
  Jun 13, 2013
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smh, yet another site that I frequent that is filled with Sony fanboys. First IGN and now here. I try to remain neutral, but you people are really starting to get on my nerves. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than downvote every comment that says anything remotely positive about the Xbox One? It's a difference of opinion, you don't have to agree with the other person, but at least respect that they can have their own opinion. Even people who just stated that they were buying both the PS4 and Xbox One are getting downvoted...
Chadwick1343
  Jun 13, 2013
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Already got it pre ordered.

tonylopez
  Jun 13, 2013
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Bluray talk forums get a little opinionated. It happens. But damn, does this PS4 talk turns this forum into a console clan rally... let the hate continue...
tman418
  Jun 13, 2013
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I just wish I could have the PS4 with an Xbox controller. Then it would be perfect.

Btw, 399 British pounds?! 1 British pound is roughly 2 American dollars. YIKES!

ulri4651
  Jun 14, 2013
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does Amazon wait to charge your card til this item is available? I want to preorder but I don't want to pay $400 now for an item I won't receive til December. Sorry if this is a dumb question but I rarely, if ever, preorder items.

KarmaNL
  Jun 14, 2013
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only downside is the no backwards compatibility with the ps3. Other than that it's an amazing machine
truckdaddy
  Jun 14, 2013
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@ulri4651
Amazon charges you when the item ships.

coolkev1701
  Jun 14, 2013
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I guess you guys will have to add a PS4 section to blu-ray.com now.
BluRayFreak
  Jun 14, 2013
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Ironic, Blu-Ray.com will also have to add the X-Box One since it will play Blu-Ray disks LOL.
atomik kinder
  Jun 14, 2013
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Doesn't this mean Microsoft will have to pay Sony for each XBOX One sold? It does have a Blu-ray drive.

crowkiller06
  Jun 15, 2013
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In regards to you having to have a PS+ subscription, in order to play multiplayer... I'll just say this: Most 360 players are already paying for Xbox live anyways( one year of PS+ is cheaper than a year of XBL right?). Also, you get cloud saving, cloud service, free games EVERY month/etc......
Win/win for anyone who plays games.

Spicoli
  Jun 15, 2013
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you are all gay

Ray O. Blu
  Jun 15, 2013
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The foremost expert on the subject has spoken.
Let's have a moment of silence for his proud parents.
MoulinBlu
  Jun 16, 2013
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Not sure there are any games coming this year that I can't wait to play or wouldn't be content with the PS3 editions. But, the price is more tempting than I expected. If it drops in my goldbox, I'll definitely preorder, even if it is too late for a launch edition.


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