Sony Music Entertainment has announced the creation of the Blu-spec CD format which allows higher quality audio playback from standard CD players. The format uses Blu-ray laser diodes and advanced polymers in order to improve on the standard (Redbook) CD format while operating within the format parameters.
A common problem with standard CDs is an issue called "jitter" which represents variation in the characteristics of the audio signal. Many high-end CD Players use various means to reduce jitter, but Sony will use the precise burning ability of Blu-ray laser diodes to reduce the problem, which will improve audio playback.
Despite the name similarities, this is not the Profile 3.0 (audio only) Blu-ray spec that many audiophiles have been waiting for. We are still awaiting some word as to the availability of that technology.
The Blu-spec CD format will launch on December 24th with 60 classical and jazz music titles.
They won't compare at all to SACD/DVD-A. It says right there these are "red-book" CDs, only they won't be affected by issues such as judder to such an extent as current ones can be. CD is barely limping along and these, especially if they increase manufacturing costs, will be DOA.
Bring on BD Profile 3!! I miss having new SACD releases.
If a premium is charged for these Blu-laser written standard music CDs then there will be problems. If it is something that doesn't make any difference in cost (such as HDCD encoding) then it won't really matter.
I'm not surprised to see the first batch of CD releases using this stuff are in the jazz and classical music genres -where recording/engineering practices are up to higher standards. Rock and pop music these days seems to be produced with very little if any concern at all in recording quality.
So, they will be using Blu-ray lasers to burn 'cleaner' discs. Sounds good if they don't cost extra. It doesn't sound liek a 'new' format, just a way to improve the manufacture of the current CD format.
I'm patiently waiting for the profile 3 discs... I'd love to hear some
albums remixed in 5.1
This new tech seems useless to me. MP3s and iTunes have proved that
customers really do not care about having the highest-quality audio.
They obviously don't want something that sounds terrible, but blind tests
show that the average consumer cannot tell the difference between iTunes
AACs, most MP3s and actual CDs.
Why does SONY think people would care enough to buy a more expensive
version of the CDs that aren't selling enough as it is?
Either create a product that pushes the boundaries and gives consumers
something more and something that a lot of people will buy, or don't put it
out. Learn from your mistakes!!!
Sidenote: please keep developing and pushing Bluray. I do not want it to die.
It is the best thing to happen to my movie addiction in a very long time.
Keeping Blu-ray for movies only is foolish. There is a massive chance here for Blu-ray to present a new revenue stream for the record labels, providing they add in additional content like video footage, interviews, etc., etc., always in high resolution sound and HD video where applicable.
This new Blu-CD thing will work in all CD players and that's fine...as long as they're not foolish enough to try and create a new audio format that requires a special player as that won't work.
So these are regular CDs that play on regular CD players, but burned using a Blu-ray burner
As long as they play on my CD players and can be imported to iTunes in lossless then great. But I was
really hoping for a Blu-ray profile 3.0 spec instead.
let me tell you I record audio for a living. Cds sound like shit 16 bit 44.1 sucks. high quality 24 bit
9600 or 24 bit 19200 will be amazing. Like sitting in the studio listening to the master recordings.
And just remember some people buy music to listen to on good gear if you want to rip a cd ,download
from limewire, or listen to music on a 10 dollar set of computer speakers this technology is probably
not for you.
It would seem that for every 3 propritary memory schemes Sony dreams up, one works well.
The proof is already there for DVD-A and SACD, so why invest in this medium at all? Wouldn't it be wiser to expand on the current footing and increasing momentum of Blu-Ray and just create audio blu-ray? This way nobody has to buy another player (which is why DVD-A failed).
People aren't grasping this one well. IT IS NOT A NEW FORMAT. It is CD with a better burning process that will play in CD players. It is not on a BD, it is not the same as SACD and DVDA or Mini-Disc. SAME FORMAT - NEW BURNING PROCESS
Some of the comments on here are laughable. If the media is what gives the audio such good quality,
then when the master at the studio is on a hard drive, it's crap, but when it goes on to CD's for
distribution - it then becomes good quality? Then when someone rips the CD in to iTunes using either
WAV or AIFF 44,100hz 16 Bit Stereo or Lossless, it becomes crappy again?
And MNTwister, if you used DTS Master Audio, which is no better quality than uncompressed, it's just
compressed without any loss in audible quality, you wouldn't NEED a Blue Laser disc to store the data,
it would still fit on a 750MB CD.
This is welcomed news for regular CDs, but I don't think it's a big deal. I think Blu-Spec CDs will be marketed similarly to the 20-bit remastered original recording CDs being reissued by Columbia and Blue Note.
It's just a new mastering method - not a new disc format. It will likely appear as a symbol or as subtext on a CD's packaging.
Everybody here seems to have taken the technology out of context...
These are Standard CD's... burned with blue laser diodes, meaning; tighter and more accurate burning than the standard red laser diodes. blue laser light is more intense and has a higher frequency, allowing the information (a song track) to be placed onto a disc using less-to-no compression.
CD's lose audio quality because they are compressed to fit onto that 700mb disc burned with a red laser diode.
But... if that same 700mb disc format is burned from the master audio track using a blue laser diode, the information is fitted tighter and more accurately, there is less compression, and thus better audio quality.
This is a great idea! and its smart and will cost next to nothing for the manufacturer's because they're only implementing technology that already exists, blu-ray. What's been missing from the industry though, is larger sized CD's than the standard 700mb/80min. A nice 2-4GB CD could be used to store the lossless audio.
Just imagine... The Beatle's 'Let It Be' in lossless audio, on a 4GB compact disc that plays in standard cd players you already own! My perfect world is almost coming together.....
wow, some people posting here don't seem to be reading that news item carefully. I think what they are saying is that they will use the blue laser to burn regular cds, and the cds won't be any different, except that the pits and grooves will be more accurate and precise, which will reduce the tiny errors that can be caused when the discs are later read in any regular CD player.
Personally, I think it is a great idea, but I don't think it is going to make a huge difference at this point.
I would really really really like to see a new high def audio format.
Especially (and I know this is a big reach) I wanna hear Zaireeka in 7.1
No one respects music quality any more. This is evident by the fact that no download music is even close to CD quality let alone an improvement. A crying shame if you ask me.
Funny thing is, people clamor to get this inferior quality. It's like someone was sitting listening to a CD one day and decided it was much too high quality. Yes, what the world needed was an inferior format that would cost around the same to purchase. Woohoo! </sarcasm>
if they are going to be sticking with physical media, just use Profile 3.0 at least then it'll be giving better quality audio, and if they want to maintain compatibility they could add a CD layer for an extra dollar or 2 if that, plus BD Profile 3.0 can give the studios better means to protect their content with BD+ or AACS.
"The company will also use polymer plastic for the actual discs"
I 'd be surprised if these types of RBCDs are released outside Japan.
I assume this is Sony's response to JVC/Universal's SMH-CD and Toshiba-EMI's HQCD.
yea, can somebody clarify. I dont mind this if it works in current CD players but if a new player is
needed, I love Sony and I have plenty of Blu-rays (near 130) and lots of UMD's and such, so I dont
mind new formats, but because CD is on the dying some of the music industry, nobody will want to
convert to it.
In addition to my last posts... I would love to see the end of CD's, and the run into bluray music cd's.
Cd's cost 14-15 bucks now anyways, a bluray movie on average is about 25-30 bucks. A bluray music disc made in a 15 or 20GB format would be sweet! they would be cheaper than the 25 and 50GB discs, and the audio would be truly lossless!