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Blu-ray.com Exclusive: Blu-ray Player Benchmarks

Posted December 4, 2008 12:29 PM by Ben Williams

Blu-ray.comWith the rapidly increasing numbers of Blu-ray players hitting the market, it is becoming more and more difficult to determine which players are worth your hard earned cash. In an effort to help our readers and Blu-ray consumers in general, Blu-ray.com has created a special Blu-ray player benchmark test. We've tested the most popular players on the market today using custom Java tools, the Caffeinemark benchmark for Java performance on embedded platforms as well as player load-time speed testing tools. Our hope is that these numbers will prove to be valuable for those seeking the fastest and best-performing Blu-ray players currently on the market.

The following players have been tested using the Blu-ray.com Performance Benchmark (please note that all testing has been done with the respective player's latest firmware updates):

Sony PS3 (40GB)
Sony PS3 (80GB)
Insignia NS-2BRDVD
LG BD300
Olevia BD100
Panasonic BD35
Panasonic BD55
Pioneer BDP-51FD
Pioneer Elite BDP05FD
Samsung 2550
Sharp HP21U
Sony 350
Sony 550

Complete spreadsheet

From the Player page, click on specifications and scroll about halfway down the page to the “Performance” area. Contained within this section are the specific benchmark numbers. Now that you've found them, what do they mean?

Power on time: Measures the time the player takes, in seconds, to power on from the remote control and to convey that it is ready to work via the HDTV display. The lower the number the better.

Disc Eject Time : This test measures the amount of time it takes, in seconds, for a player to fully eject the disc tray while playing a Blu-ray movie. The lower the number the better. Since disc eject times vary from film to film, it is the relative performance measurement between players that should be considered.

Movie Load Time – Basic: Measures the amount of time, in seconds, that a player takes to load a film, encoded without Java or BD+, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better. Since load times vary from film to film, and also the order they are played, it is the relative performance measurement between players that should be considered.

Movie Load Time - BD-J: Measures the amount of time a player takes, in seconds, to load a film, encoded with BD-Java, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better. Since load times vary from film to film, and also the order they are played, it is the relative performance measurement between players that should be considered.

Movie Load Time – BD+: Measures the amount of time a player takes, in seconds, to load a film, encoded with BD+ copy protection, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number the better. Since load times vary from film to film, and also the order they are played, it is the relative performance measurement between players that should be considered.

BD-J Overall Performance: This measurement measures the number of Java instructions executed per second, reflecting the player's overall ability to efficiently execute BD-Java content. This will affect the player's smoothness of menus, games, and other features using BD-J. Some players will not execute this benchmark and are marked with a red “NO” in the performance section. A "NO" rating does not indicate poor performance, but simply that the player in question does not support the form of media that the test disc is recorded on. The higher the number the better.

The following tests measure player's BD-Java graphics abilities. These numbers show how efficient the player will be at loading and navigating menus as well as Java based games.

BD-J Small Object Performance: Measures smoothness and speed of small Java graphic objects – the higher the number the better.

BD-J Large Object Performance: Measures smoothness and speed of larger Java graphic objects - the higher the number the better.

BD-J Scaling Performance This test measures the player's ability to scale Java graphics for BD menus and games. The higher the number the better.

BD-J Opacity Performance This measurement calculates the player's ability to render graphics that are opaque. The higher the number the better.

While none of these numbers indicate how a player will perform from a picture quality or audio quality standpoint, they do indicate the players that have the ability to handle complex Blu-ray content in the most efficient and seamless manner. Numbers also tend to improve as firmware updates are rolled out for each player. So, don't be too disappointed if your favorite player doesn't score very well. Our hope is that these numbers help to answer several of the many difficult questions asked while in the decision-making process for finding the right Blu-ray player for each reader's own personal needs.

As more Blu-ray players are made available to us and new firmware is released, we will continually update the players section with the most up-to-date performance data.


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News comments (67 comments)



HighlightShow
  Dec 04, 2008
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This is useful.

Sonny
  Dec 04, 2008
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I need to get a pioneer BD player...

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Alan Gordon
  Dec 04, 2008
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Why does the S550 get a NO on "BD-J overall performance"?

How about a list of the best scoring players in each test?

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Tee
  Dec 04, 2008
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This a very good news!

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Ben
  Dec 04, 2008
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ALAN: As the article states "BD-J Overall Performance: This measurement calculates the player's overall ability to efficiently execute BD-Java content. This will affect the player's smoothness of menus, games, and other features using BD-J. Some players will not execute this benchmark and are marked with a red “NO” in the performance section. The higher the number the better."

Y3k Bug
  Dec 04, 2008
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This site rocks! Now I'll know when a stand alone player performs well enough to warrant me retiring my PS3 to "just games". I love my PS3, but I look forward to the day it's soundly beaten for blu-ray playing too.

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owa
  Dec 04, 2008
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Excellent and thanks!

GabrielB
  Dec 04, 2008
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Would be great if we could also compare the results by selecting all or some models. We would have everything on one single page.

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Alan Gordon
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thanks Ben! I'm disappointed by the score as I really wanted a S550 with my new Sony HDTV... not to mention I just got the S350 I ordered for a Christmas gift an hour or two ago...
jdobiash
  Dec 04, 2008
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Nice! Any chance you could make a page which lists all of those players and their results in a spreadsheet type layout so it would be easier to compare?

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Ben
  Dec 04, 2008
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ALAN: I'm sure it performs well and you can use the other Java performance numbers to
conclude that it is a solid Java performer. It should, essentially, perform the same as the 350,s o if you are happy with it, then buy away!

Keep in mind, that a "No" doesn't mean that the player performed badly, it just wouldn't run the type of media that the test disc is on.

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Alan Gordon
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thanks for the clarification Ben!

I'll still hold onto my PS3 for Blu-ray viewing until after the New Year, but will have to take a HARDER look at the Panasonic BD55 now...

Sonny
  Dec 04, 2008
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The PS3 is so damn fast. I love it. I like seeing the speeds of the players. I like how the SA players
are getting faster too. Every new Generation is faster than the last ( of course ).

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dobyblue
  Dec 04, 2008
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Wow, I can't believe how well the LG-BD300 holds up.
I just put all the data in a spreadsheet and it's the #2 behind the PS3 in just about every category...and it says it loads a basic Blu-ray Disc quicker than the PS3.
Kudos to LG.
jdobiash
  Dec 04, 2008
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I noticed that too Sonny, the PS3 still appears to blow the rest of them out of the water at least in terms of raw BD-J performance.

joelslaw
  Dec 04, 2008
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This is pretty interesting. These are honestly things I never thought about before buying my BD player (PS3). I think this will be really helpful to a lot of people.

bhampton
  Dec 04, 2008
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Seems like a lot of work.... Wouldn't just saying PS3 Rulez All Yo have been easier?

Y3k Bug
  Dec 04, 2008
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For those (like me) who want to see a side by side, I just did a quick spreadsheet -

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=piYqxCKNZlI2LlUR4Ik6hDg

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owa
  Dec 04, 2008
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dobyblue, you should post your spreadsheet in the forum. I was going to enter the numbers in a spreadsheet as well so that would save me/others the time. Anyway, yeah, surprising to see how well the LG performs since I hadn't really heard much about it. Edit: Thanks Y3k Bug.

ground chuck
  Dec 04, 2008
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where's the Original 60gb????

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Lucy Diamond
  Dec 04, 2008
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Yo...honestly...this place started out as a cool hang for people into Blu-ray early, but had become a NO JOKE website.

Way to go all.


ps- I believe the benchmark test is for players you can buy NOW...I don't think teh original 60gb counts anymore and will not be in demand during this holiday season.

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ckenisell
  Dec 04, 2008
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ground chuck,

It likely gets the same results as the 40 and 80GB models, but the 60GB is no longer on the market, thus no need to include it in the list.

bhampton
  Dec 04, 2008
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The 60GB broke the curve with it's overdose of awesomeness..(most likely.)

fettastic
  Dec 04, 2008
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These results would be more useful if they were graphed. It's hard to see how they compare to each other.

There should be 2 graphs, one for low numbers being desirable and one for high numbers being desireable.
1000thblurayMay12014
  Dec 04, 2008
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Well, DEFINITELY the Playstation 3 is the best blu-ray player on the market! you can play all your back in the day Playstation and Playstation 2 games on it, you can rip CDs to the hard disk, you can play standard DVDs on it(if you're into the standard DVD that is!), and best of all, It is the best Blu-ra player on the market because of the fact that it has the most entertainment of any blu-ray player out there! Blu-ray disc for life!

fettastic
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thanks for that spreadsheet y3k. Interesting to see the Ps3 just completely slaying everything out there. That's good for us PS3 owners, but bad for people just getting into BD with an SA.
Rup_Muk
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thank you. THis is useful information...
Disturbed350z
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thank you so much for this
just gave me another reason to use this site at work
I knew the ps3 was considered the fastest but its nice to have some numbers to compare for people
I work at BBY btw

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dobyblue
  Dec 04, 2008
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The LG has quicker load times than the PS3 for basic Blu-ray Discs.

Sonny
  Dec 04, 2008
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I takes no where near 30sec to load a standerd BD movie on a PS3.

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Moefiz
  Dec 04, 2008
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Nice list....good to have around.

Cortiz
  Dec 04, 2008
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So the Olevia and Inginia players has an overall BD-J performance higher than the new Panny BD35/55 ? In fact, the new Panny has the lower overall BD-J performance of all of the players listed. Is that even correct? Interesting.

NovaBomb
  Dec 04, 2008
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Sonny, I was just thinking that, I wonder how there are measures the times?

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Ben
  Dec 04, 2008
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Movie Load Time – Basic: Measures the amount of time, in seconds, that a player takes to load
a film, encoded without Java or BD+, from the time the disc tray starts closing to the time that
content appears on the screen. BD drive speed can impact this number. The lower the number
the better.

Sonny
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thank you Ben. I understand that^^^ Its just not that slow...:) This is a really cool feature on the
site!!!
ksalmon
  Dec 04, 2008
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Where are the actual picture quality catagories?

HUNgaryBLU
  Dec 04, 2008
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perfet idea for future buyers - and who wanna buy another , BETTER upgrade of BLU RAY PLAYER !!

go as european models ...
awre
  Dec 04, 2008
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Hope you do Marantz and Denon soon !!!
Molsonblue
  Dec 04, 2008
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Noticed a flaw on the Spec for the PS3 40 gig, it says it can not play SACD which is not true and the
overall score was a 4.8 while the 80 gig has a 5.0. The machine is identical except for the hard space.
animex
  Dec 04, 2008
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I agree with ksalmon, what we need is a picture quality benchmark, just like the dvd player benchmark on the secrets website. load time and bd-java performance may be great for people who want to know these things, I for one care about picture quality first and foremost, Audio quality 2nd (only if i am NOT using a processor) and the all the bonus crap i could care less about (ok...load time to a certain degree, buy i could care less if player a is 30 seconds and player b is 1 minute)

and by the way, the playstation3 is NOT the best player on the market, all the hype is based on SUBJECTIVE opinion, wheareas objectively it has failed the bulk of the dvd benchmark and people still say the upscaling is great....compared to what? not the oppo or the denon players, not even the samsung bd1200 or the toshiba hd xa 2, the ps3 is great for gamers who watch movies and like quantity over quality. nuff said

Steelmaker
  Dec 04, 2008
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I notice that the PS3 does not bitstream DTS HD MA or Dolby True HD. What does that mean exactly and is there honestly a huge difference in sound quality between the PS3 and the players that do? Also, what about the fact that PS3 does 7.1 through HDMI only and not through analogue? What's the big deal about that?

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owa
  Dec 04, 2008
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Steelmaker, decoding in the player versus in the receiver should be the same but it's a point that a lot of people like to debate. Just search for the info (there's a lot of info on the subject). More analog outputs provides greater flexibility especially with older receivers so that's why some find that desirable. If you have a newer receiver with HDMI, then it's probably a moot point.

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dobyblue
  Dec 04, 2008
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Molsonblue - that is correct, the 40GB PS3 in North America cannot play SACD's - only the 60GB and 20GB models can.

Animex - the 1080p24 performance on the PS3 is top tier.

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Rike255
  Dec 04, 2008
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Wow, PS3 really stands up to all those players. I don't know much about how big a difference the numbers make in reality, but PS3 pretty much blew the rest all away in every category.

whbinder
  Dec 04, 2008
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I have to agree with some of the other posters. The PS3 60 is no longer on the market, but it's a very popular player still. Many people look to purchase these on eBay or Craigslist instead of buying a new 40Gb or 80Gb.

Better or worse, it's definately a model that people are interested in since it's specs are considerably different than the 40 and 80 models. I think many people looking to buy their first player consider getting one of these.

Bobby Henderson
  Dec 04, 2008
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Anyone dismissing the Playstation 3 on the grounds of DVD upscaling performance is taking a very silly stand.

DVD upconversion? Who freaking cares!?

Any DVD upconversion to 1080p method is flawed. I don't care what machine is doing it. Anyone looking to buy a Blu-ray player or Playstation 3 is interested in playing Blu-ray movies on the device, not just merely playing their old DVDs. In the area of Blu-ray performance, PS3 is still second to none.

BluCheez
  Dec 04, 2008
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Thanks for the info. The more information we have at our disposal the better we will be able to decide where to spend our hard-earned $$. To me this info is a starting point. Load times and Java issues are secondary to PQ, AQ, reliability, how often firmware is updated, noise and heat output... It would be great if these initial Blu-ray benchmarks can to expand to eventually include other factors.

Thanks again!
H-BOMB
  Dec 04, 2008
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I think this is a pretty good thing but honestly, I really don't care too much about BD-J or BD-Live. All I want in a Blu-ray player is prestine picture and audio performance. I currently have a Sony BDP-S350 and it does an adequate job for the price I paid - $300 in August. I know a lot of you think I'm crazy but when I watch a movie, I really don't care to chat about it or see how they shot a scene while watching the movie. So, here is a suggestion I would like to make: Manufacturers should release two version of a player, one with kick ass picture and sound and the other with kick ass picture and sound plus the BD-j and BD- Live. The one with the extra crap would cost a little more. Also, Blu-ray movies should be released the same way. Don't get me wrong, this is a good tool for people who are about to buy their first player. Keep up the good work guys. By the way, Blu-ray movie prices are still too frigging high!

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owa
  Dec 04, 2008
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The BD-J isn't really something to care or not care about in that sense. It's used for the menus and other features and has to be supported. Faster BD-J performance is good b/c it means the menus won't be sluggish or limited (for example).

As for different players supporting different features, there are 3 profiles for the players with one just providing basic functionality, one adding PiP to that and the last one supporting everything. The problem (as some see it anyway), is that it's confusing for consumers. When they purchase a movie, they expect everything on it to be available and work on their player and that wouldn't be the case. So, it seems everyone is trying to move to the BD-Live players just to avoid that (although currently you can still get bonus-view players).
tacitassassin25
  Dec 04, 2008
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which is your favorite, or which one do you think it best, you should ass Launch 60gb PS3 though

BluCheez
  Dec 04, 2008
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Hmmm. How do you "ass Launch"? ;-)

Schrute Farms
  Dec 04, 2008
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The numbers seem a little arbitrary. "The higher number the better" and "the lower number the better" means NOTHING unless it is in context. THere should be a scale for the numbers to be relevant. Make 100 the top score for the non-measurable numbers so we have a baseline for comparison.
Headphone Czar
  Dec 04, 2008
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Why no review on the Sony ES BRP line, The Yamaha 2900, or the Marantz 2,000 player.. Some viewers would like to know how they stack up with the budget minded options..The Sony 1,000 player looks really nice..I love the great construction and many details other players left out.
Aztec_MC
  Dec 04, 2008
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What about the 60GB PS3, the BEST PS3, therefore the BEST player overall?

Ray O. Blu
  Dec 04, 2008
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@ Schrute Farms: I agree. That way would help. Reminds me of the 'contrast ratio' dilemma. There's no industry standard for computing it, so you can't compare different manufacturer's numbers.

HUNgaryBLU
  Dec 05, 2008
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perfet idea for future buyers - and who wanna buy another , BETTER upgrade of BLU RAY PLAYER !!

go as european models ... my Panasonic DMP BD-55 work perfect as MULTI - REGIO player with new HD-MOD ICOS chipset !! I sold my PS3 to my friend after it !

manually change the regio : A B C !!!

dvd player as regiofree !!
Captain Spaulding
  Dec 05, 2008
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Why are some folks saying that the 60GB PS3 better than the 80GB? What is different between the two other than hard disc size?

nazdar
  Dec 05, 2008
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All nice low end players. This article is a stoke job; but interesting....I need a second player and it's going to be PS3.

EWL5
  Dec 05, 2008
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2 Questions:

1) How do I go about submitting numbers for my players (Denon 3800BDCI and 60gb PS3 if anyone wants to compare against the 40/80gb) or only admins in Blu-ray.com have that power?

2) How do I get access to the software that tests the various Java operations?
MALFEITOR1
  Dec 05, 2008
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Well at least 3rd place overall is not bad for my Panasonic BD-35.

fettastic
  Dec 05, 2008
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Captain Spaulding, the 60GB PS3 has a PS2 chip built in, so it's fully backwards compatible. It also has a memory card reader and 4 USB ports. It also plays SACD and I'm not sure the 80GB model does.

I have the 20GB model, although I swapped in a 250GB HDD. It has all that except no card reader.

Sonny
  Dec 05, 2008
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^^^ or WiFi. My PS3 loads "Basic Blu-rays" in under 17 sec's & even as low as 15.1 sec's. I tested
close to a 100.

EvolutionCherry
  Dec 05, 2008
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That's pretty informative.
animex
  Dec 06, 2008
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for dobyblue:

your comment: 1080p 24fs on the ps3 is top tier had nothing to do with my post. i clearly said the upscaling failed the DVD benchmark and this comment had nothing to do with the bluray abilities of the player, and for the record the current crop of players from panasonic AND sony outperform the ps3 in terms of video quality and upscaling, this is based on benchmark tests conducted by professionals.

you used to tear apart my posts on hddigest using the same rhetoric, lets not do it here
ChrisLyon
  Dec 06, 2008
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It would be interesting to see the difference between this and a standard set of DVD players benchmarked in the same manor. Without context these numbers are great, but not useful to the average person looking to understand why they should upgrade to blu.
1000thblurayMay12014
  Dec 06, 2008
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My Playstation 3 loads my Blu-ray disc movies in 5-8 seconds! Believe it whether you want to or not! I have the 80GB with 4 USB ports and it loads my Blu-ray discs un under 10 seconds! Blu-ray disc for life!
jdobiash
  Dec 07, 2008
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To ChrisLyon - The BD-J benchmarks done here can't really be compared to regular DVD's as they do not have that capability. This is more for people who are already wanting to get a BD player and want to compare them.

Regarding the PS3's, here's a quick rundown of the previous models:

Generation 1 : 20GB / 60GB - PS2 Hardware Backwards Compatibility (BC)
Generation 2 : 40GB / 80GB - Only the 80GB model had 'Software Emulation' BC
Generation 3 : 80GB / 160GB - No BC at all, and apparently never again

I picked up a 20GB model on eBay about a month ago, it has the BC in it and I didn't really need the WiFi or Card Reader.


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