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Despite Claims, BD+ Secure


Posted December 15, 2008 09:46 AM by Josh Dreuth

Blu-ray Disc A few weeks back, SlySoft, a company which specializes in breaking digital rights management (DRM) code, confidently claimed that they had defeated the Blu-ray anti-piracy technology BD+ permanently. Seems as if they may have spoken too soon. The company, along with numerous users, have admitted that BD+ has been resecured via updates to the system.

Unlike typical DRM technologies which rely on hard algorithms and code, BD+ is extremely modifiable, meaning that if the technology is ever breached - as it was last month - it can be repaired and content resecured. This is welcome news to movie studios who lose millions of dollars annually to pirates who selling illegal copies of their films.

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Sonny
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Theres nothing thats 100% safe......But firmware updates sure put a snag in there plans....I'll buy the
real deal BD any day of the week!

hc666
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Pirates suck. Nothing annoys me more than downloaders of music and film.

Mr. Cinema
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Not only do the studios lose millions, but it also causes us honest people to pay higher prices.

I HATE people who steal!

CptGreedle
 » Dec 15, 2008

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I knew SlySoft was just blowing smoke. I'm glad to see that BD+ is indeed much harder to crack
than they were claiming and that it would update itself to force them to start all over. In the end, it
will cost them too much money to update their cracks than to just drop their attempt to break BD+.
If people want to pirate movies, they are going to have to do it through something else.
Pirates suck, I have never supported illegal downloading of music or movies.

AikonEnt
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Slysoft will claim that it to allow people to make backups of their Blu and not for piracy purposes. Amazes me they can actually say that with a straight face. Just as a thought, are Slysoft in any way linked with M$?

demiscy
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Slysoft is 100% legal in their country.

fettastic
 » Dec 15, 2008

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I love BD and have hundreds in my collection. I go broke every week stocking up on all the latest films. Blu-ray is clearly the greatest thing to happen to film since synchronized sound. I say all this so that you all realize that I do not pirate films. That being established, every Blu-ray ever created is available ripped online. I don't know how they do, but it must not be too difficult, with or without BD+.

SellmeyourDVD
 » Dec 15, 2008

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I may get riffed on for saying this, but i love slysoft. I use their clone dvd to mobile software religiously.

Vlad44
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Jim L
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Glad to hear BD+ is still secure. It will have even more appeal to studios in this age of piracy.

Piracy is a real threat to all content, not just Blu-ray. Heck, when I was purchasing my BD copy of Dark Knight, the BB salesperson told me he had already downloaded and watched the ripped Blu-ray version. It made me feel sick. Not only that it threatens to undermine my source of good entertainment, but becuase some people think it is their "right" to have movies and music for free.

These cheaters threaten to dry up all content for everyone, including themselves.

rjmacnc
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Actually, by law you are supposed to be allowed to make ONE legal backup of all media you purchase. This includes CDs and DVDs and now BDs. In terms of studios losing millions of dollars, it's not even close to hurting them. They still seem to find the funds to keep producing crap movies. I buy the movies I love and leave the rest. If you want to discuss their loss-ratios... lets talk about the money the spend to produce a movie, only to have it make nothing at the box office. If I were a movie studio, I'd worry more about producing quality entertainment, then people pirating the discs.

statikcat
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Almost every single Blu-ray ever made is hacked and been on rapidshare on release or at some point.

jerkjamjAm
 » Dec 15, 2008

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If they loses so much money, how is it that they pumping even more money in every damn movie? They can cut down the prize and make million of dollars.
And how is it that they always boast that they made cash success, etc.?

RobertSprenger
 » Dec 15, 2008

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I make backups of all my discs, and thank god I do since my house was robbed years ago and I would be a slave to eBay pricves on some of the oop stuff I had, so say what you will some people use archiving for legitimate and not illegal purposes

jk1138
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Mr. Cinema WELL SAID

thegline
 » Dec 15, 2008

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The only thing that annoys me about BD copy protection is how it makes obtaining screenshots extremely difficult. I'd be happy just getting a half-resolution or DVD-res screenshot from a BD, for the sake of the reviews I write -- but they plugged that up as a possible way to do frame-by-frame bootlegging, which to me is just plain stupid.

Pyoko
 » Dec 15, 2008

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As far as I'm concerned, they brought it upon themselves, and I don't feel sorry for them at all.

Personally, if they hadn't insisted on still using region coding, I (and I'm sure quite a lot of other people) would have very little use of SlySoft or their services at all.

And I agree with jerkjamjAm, you really have to put this into perspective. They may be losing money, but this is not some mom & pop operation constantly on the verge of collapse. No, it might not be right, but they are far from hurting, and this is all about getting those extra millions. Anyone who believes the SRP would not still be the exact same $30-40 if Blu-ray had been completely secure and impossible to pirate, is incredibly naive.

J6P
 » Dec 15, 2008

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Actually it's nothing at all to do with getting "those extra millions", it has to do with the very survival of the format in the long haul. The fate of HD packaged media is balanced on the razor's edge at the moment. There are NO margins to be had.

Why do you think so many piracy-friendly Asian markets have simply been cut out of the Blu supply stream? Blu-ray "archiving" is a joke and a lie. If you're thieving, have the guts to call it theft.

MrPickle
 » Dec 15, 2008

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If every Blu Ray disc had a digital copy included, I would presume less people would try and use this software to make copies.

PaulGo
 » Dec 15, 2008

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It's a cat and mouse game. In a few months slysoft will break the current protection again. But as long as the movie studios stay a month or more ahead of the pirates they will minimize their losses.

However another problem that will have to be addressed is allowing full resolution through component outputs.' As long as this is permitted quality copies still can be made and posted on the internet.



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