HDMI Licensing, LLC – the agent responsible licensing the High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) specification – has announced five key capabilities and features that will be introduced on the next version of their HDMI technology, which will launch in the first half of 2009.
"HDMI has reached an installed base of more than 600 million devices and now touches almost every consumer device that plays HD content. We want to give the industry a preview of where the HDMI specification is headed as we continue to innovate and meet the needs of this dynamic marketplace," said Steve Venuti, president of HDMI Licensing, LLC.
In the upcoming spec, HDMI will address key industry trends, which will include five innovative features, such as 3D capability, Ethernet connections, and increased resolution performance.
Consolidation of HD video, HD audio and now high speed data with the addition on Ethernet in the HDMI cable.
Audio Return Channel
Elimination of a S/PDIF cable by allowing for a TV to send audio streams upstream to an A/V receiver for processing and playback over the HDMI cable.
4K x 2K and 3D are high performance features to be met by increasing the upper limit of the HDMI link.
HD In Your Car
New connector specification for the auto industry as the world's largest auto makers move to digital HD video and audio for 21st century cars with HDMI.
Ethernet IN the cable? That is so weird, I don't even know how that would work... it is very cool though. It sounds like it isn't backwards compatible with current product though (Smaller connector?), that would be a shame.
Yeah I'm generally very disappointed in this announcement. I think given the current economic climate they will find damn few people willing to throw away the last two/three year's worth of hardware investments just to have the functionality they've released.
This sounds a LOT like Microsoft tarting up a new version of MS Office just to get more upgrade revenue out of the customer base.
Sorry but I see damn little value in this new HDMI standard and I won't be buying new hardware to support it.
Marine Mike - We'll be lucky to see the PS4 before 2012, IMHO. Still way too much life left in the PS3. That's why this HDMI announcement (and the change to the physical connector) seriously BLOWS.
I think there will be an adapter like DVI, HDMI so we can still use the older 1.3 spec. I will not need any of these features any time soon. My home theater is already networked and I do not see any 4K displays or media on the consumer horizon.
Technology will never stand still...which is a good thing. I have a Pioneer plasma in my bedroom that I bought in early 2003. It doesn't even have a digital video connection...and I too was a little pissed when the first displays started showing up with DVI. I have a Blu-ray player hooked up to it running high quality component...the picture still looks amazing!!! So, I just don't have a good excuse to replace this display...just yet.
"Smaller connector", people don't freak out about this... just like we have different sizes for USB connectors it all depends on the device that has the HDMI port. You will find cables with both small and regular endpoints. These are all enhancements I am happy to see, would suck if we were still fiddling with SD AV component cables...
How about adding closed captioning as a part of the spec?
That'll be nice because right now, the CC signal is literally blocked from going through the cable. The only way to
get closed captioning is if the computer, DVD player, Blu-ray player, any sort of video device has a CC decoder
built in. But that means you have to force the CC to become a part of the video signal. The TV itself is supposed to
be the central device for rendering the CC, not the video device.
inovation is good, but I still disagree with HDMI's ever changing specs. Now, if I want to use any of these future technologies, mainly through my AV receiver, I have to now buy yet ANOTHER AV receiver that supports the new HDMI (Currently had to upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3 for bitstreaming HD audio).
Leave the HDMI cable alone. I'm fine with adding new abilities in the current cable. As others have said make the current one the standard like rca cables. Who wants to replace everything or buy an adapter to make everything work? A compromise could be to include both types on a player and let the consumer decide.
Just get an adapter, people. The way I see it, this can greatly simplify a lot of A/V wiring for new stuff.
Think of video projectors in instutional settings, all have a video source connected to them, many are also connected via RS-232 to control systems AND ethernet to a network. Now theoretically 1 cable could carry EVERYTHING, and if your device won't accept 3-on-1, a simple adapter could have a Video, DB-9, and RJ-45.
I HIGHLY doubt that this new standard will make all of us throw out our current CEs. That would be the HDMI group shooting themselves in the foot. All you haters should look up the definition of BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE.
Or perhaps the HDMI group can just stop innovating so you don't hide your heads in the sand....hmmmmm???
I simply cannot believe the moaning! It's all about innovation. You have to learn to be happy with what you currently have. You will never, never, never have the "latest and greatest thing" for any extended time. And at the same time you can't remain on the "side lines". You have to go ahead and "join the party and have a good time" and simply know that there going to be something "better" coming out later.
For God sakes it doesn't mean that what you have now, is now worthless and doesn't work anymore. When you do start upgrading components to the new HDMI, well then buy an adapter for your older equipment. And also know that most all new tech. is backward compatible.
I don't understand all the complaining. Most of these new features will be useful with future technology, but add nothing to current setups. There is no reason for a manufacturer to use the new connectors on a receiver, monitor, BD player or other media player until some new technology is invented to take advantage of it Some manufacturers will add this $5 piece of HDMI hardware so that thery can charge $200 more for the equipment.
As far as the auto connector, this is a great idea. There are no blu-ray auto players yet, and most of the digital copies cannot be easily viewed in a car. A new universal connector will make it easier for people to use iPods and other devices in their auto video systems (Any of you who routinely ttravel with children will appreciate this)
I really hate when you invest in new technology and then something else forces you or wants you at least to upgrade your already new system. This is the problem now with a new evolving format..it would have been better to sort all this out before blu ray or HD in general was launched. This is why in my opinion blu ray will be a slow burn to the masses..my mum can plug a dvd player inand use it, but when i talk about HDMI v1.3..etc etc..it totally loses her like the majority of the average person who just wants to buy something,plug it in and then use it till the end of its lifespan..if everyone has to keep upgrading already new equipment this format will die.
Did they say anything about backward compatibility? The new connector is understandable, but I am hoping it is still backward compatible with the old connector by using adapter. Sure, you don't get the new functionality but at least that allows you to connect old device (now new) with new device (future) that uses the new connector. If they don't allow that then manufacturer may have to provide both old and new connectors in their device, but I think that will be a dumb move for HDMI.
I'm all for innovation and advancing technology but just as Blu-ray is ramping up and people are jumping on the hi-def bandwagon in greater numbers, you don't want to scare them with the through that their newest gadgets are going to be out-of-date any time soon (even if they aren't necessarily going to be). Ah well, hope folks don't get scared and end up waiting. My TV from 1993 lasted until 2008 before I replaced it with my new "theatre" system. I'd hate to be looking at upgrading my new setup every few years....
What now a smaller connector? What will happen to your current size HDMI 1.3 cables and connectors than? When you release a spec you can't then say well heres a faster newer version of your spec but it's smaller and won't work with the old.
They really have to realize that this will cause a LOT of headache. You need to keep things simple. Look at the way USB has evolved. USB1, USB 2 is able to play both USB2 and USB1 backward compatable and now the new USB 3 plays prior formats and USB3 + they are all the same size. What would happen if the new USB 3 spec was a different size? I bet all the companies who make USB perriferals would love that.
All right, everyone take a deep breath and calm down... OK? Count down from 10 if it helps...
3, 2, 1,.. better now? OK, here's the deal; there have been other "upgrades" in the HDMI spec before, the good news is that these ones (like those before) have nothing to do with the cable and everything to do with the components at either end of the cables (Ok, the higher bandwidth for 4k x 2k AND 3-D may not work with some cheaper cables, but that's the only exception I can think of). And the "smaller connector" is already here (the mini-HDMI jacks on HD camcorders) as are cables with mini-HDMI on one or both ends, this just makes it part of the spec (HDMI was always 19 pin, BTW, same as the mini-HDMI connector). The mini-HDMI connector is a suppliment, an additional connector, it is NOT replacing the standard HDMI connector.
The other features (Ethernet, S/PDIF digital audio, etc.) are relatively low bandwidth and convenience features that may take awhile to be widely adopted. I don't see any of these updates to the specs forcing anyone to go buy new gear anytime soon (unless most of us have 3-D ready quad-HDTV screens already). And an HDMI is an HDMI cable; there is no such thing as an HDMI-1.2 or HDMI-1.3a/b cable (no matter what marketing at Monster would like you to believe), the spec numbers refer to the source and destination equipment (and active swtich boxes, recievers/A\V pre-amps, etc.) NOT the cables. So please,... calm down,.. it's going to be alright,... I promise.
Thank you Bass Mechanic. I see these improvements as a positive thing also. I still have old equipment lying around that still works fine. These devices just don't have all the features of the new stuff I bought. I still use my old Dolby Pro Logic (4 channel) receiver in the bedroom. I don't see any compelling reason to do any major upgrades for several years. Some of us remember quadraphonic stereo. A few audiophiles bought into it, but the rest of us just shrugged and passed by. I wouldn't sell a kidney to buy a quad-HDTV. We may see the same happen with 3D. At the same time, if you keep waiting for the next technology, you will never have anything. If you see something you like, buy it and enjoy it for a few years, then worry about upgrading.
I am excited because I have the first Next Gen HDMI cable here on my desk! Please keep in mind the New Mini 19 pin HDMI connector will most likely be implemented on the Auto device! TTL is a manufacturer of HDMI 1.3b cables and were the first to pass compliance testing. In a nutshell the need for the Toslink/SPIF cable will go away with these new Next Gen HDMI cables! This should actually solve alot of the headaches out there..
This is actually Great news for the Industry in my view!
No matter what happens we could never have anything to settle down with. Its all about the technology and most of all...MONEY. Buy a PC today and tmrw its old school. This is the very reason I stick with FORD. They stay with the design for a LONG time. Overseas motor companies changes their body style every other year! Sorry if this is out of the subject but its the same principle.....I think.