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Slim PS3 Bitstreams Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD

Posted August 21, 2009 03:10 AM by Juan Calonge

PlayStation 3 slimWithout any fanfare or even a passing mention in its official announcement, the upcoming PS3 Slim is getting an additional feature, one long requested by those who use the console as a Blu-ray player: it will be capable of bitstreaming DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD to a compatible receiver for it to decode those advanced audio signals.

This has been revealed by Engadget, quoting a story posted on Japanese electronics site AV Watch.

The regular PS3 can't bitstream advanced audio codecs because its HDMI transmitter chip doesn't support it. Therefore, unlike the addition of DTS-HD decoding or BD-Live support, a new firmware cannot add advanced audio bitstreaming to existing consoles.

It has been long argued that there is no difference between decoding an advanced audio signal on the player or on the receiver, provided they both follow the specification. However, many users insisted they wanted to decode in their receivers and were unhappy that the PS3 didn't offer them that option. Now, with the slim PS3, they can choose whether to decode in the console or in the receiver.


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saprano
  Aug 21, 2009
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"It only does everything"

cydetrakd
  Aug 21, 2009
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i might have to pickup one of these bad boys then in the future

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TraumaCaspian
  Aug 21, 2009
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Wow, fantastic news! damn looks like I will be getting another PS3 soon!

EvilshenaniganZ
  Aug 21, 2009
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So much for having only 1 PS3........

blacknation
  Aug 21, 2009
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cry now m$ .....

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pro-bassoonist
  Aug 21, 2009
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Bravo SONY for listening to your customers!

Exciting times are ahead of us

Ciao,
Pro-B

AikonEnt
  Aug 21, 2009
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All those people that can't live without those little lights on their receivers should be happy now!

koontz1973
  Aug 21, 2009
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Might have to move the fat one to the bedroom now when I pick up this sweet piece of kit. : )

Diablo69
  Aug 21, 2009
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I have to sell my old (60GB) beloved one.

X400
  Aug 21, 2009
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Cool, the PS3 really does do it all, but i was never concerned with bitstreaming
sandyph
  Aug 21, 2009
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wow.... really tempted to get this now ... but it gonna be a big pain in the @$$ to deactivate all the account on my phat PS3 and transfer them to the slim

Petra_Kalbrain
  Aug 21, 2009
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HORUS CHRIST!!!

This means that Sony is getting another $299 from this consumer for hardware!!!

DAMN IT!!!

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Irrob
  Aug 21, 2009
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Reduced fan noise, power consumption, price, slimmer lines and new chipset are selling points for me. I'll be picking this up.

Afrobean
  Aug 21, 2009  

CAB
  Aug 21, 2009
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Makes me wonder what it would take to get bistream of DSD in there. Sony, I dare you.
chojin999
  Aug 21, 2009  
wahla21
  Aug 21, 2009
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Won't the old "fat" PS3's get an firmware upgrade so they can bitstream TrueHD and DTS-HD?
Blu Nick
  Aug 21, 2009  

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DonRSD
  Aug 21, 2009
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YAY i just sold my current 80gb ps3 for $220 to my bro-in-law and only have to shell out $10-0 for an extra 40gb of storage and BITSTREAMING AUDIO!!!

Bullseye
  Aug 21, 2009
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This will be my 3rd PS3. Sony rocks.

bhampton
  Aug 21, 2009
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Giving users what the want is GREAT. Bitstream of HD Audio was wanted. NICE!!

KamiAmaya
  Aug 21, 2009
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This is great news.
Unfortunately I think the slim is downright ugly so I'll stick with my current model PS3

Truelyhypnotic
  Aug 21, 2009
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can u upgrade the hardrive?

stubiedoo
  Aug 21, 2009  

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009  

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009  

Cortiz
  Aug 21, 2009
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Now, how about going for the kill and make this bad boy backward compatible with PS2 games?

kyle
  Aug 21, 2009
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Does this one finally have PAL support for region free DVDS/Blu-Rays in the USA?
mikehbkwm
  Aug 21, 2009
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I might consider buying a PS3 now after all this time, but honestly I still prefer my 360 a million times over. I already own 2 Blu-ray players. Guess time to move all the players around again.
rajendra82
  Aug 21, 2009
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@Truehypnotic

The PS3 Phat hard drive is easily upgradable to any 2.5" SATA notebook hard drive. You only need to remove a couple of screws and screw them back in again after sliding the new dive in. Doing so does not even void your warranty. I am sure the slim would keep that feature.

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repete66211
  Aug 21, 2009
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vassillios: you guys just don't get it, do you? It goes beyond "The pretty lights".

If the audio sounds exactly the same either way then the only difference is the lights on the receiver's display. So what is it then?
Bruiser2007
  Aug 21, 2009
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True..Bitstreaming will not improve the sound over PCM but it is nice that Sony has added this ability. Nothing within the new model makes me want to get rid of my 60Gig original but it is good to see Sony giving people what they want....

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BluRayFred
  Aug 21, 2009
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I would be a slam if it supported SACD like the original did. I still can't get over how Sony would not put that capability into this player.

Revolver-Ocelot
  Aug 21, 2009
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Good work Sony!

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009
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@repete66211

Most receivers cannot add post processing to PCM. Most people may not want to add post processing to a DTS HD Master PCM track, but if you want, most people may not be able to.

Nicadian
  Aug 21, 2009
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OK, now i am sold.

Nick Graham
  Aug 21, 2009
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I wouldn't get rid of an original 60 GB PS3 for a slim PS3....I can understand having both, but to get rid of the SACD playback, PS2 hardware backward compatibility, etc seems a bit rash.

PS3-Playb3yond
  Aug 21, 2009
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I had a feeling it would.
Bruiser2007
  Aug 21, 2009
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That makes sense Vassillios...I did not even think about those wanting to add processing to the feed...

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009
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To clarify myself, I mean a Multi Channel External PCM input signal.

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009
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As an example, there are receivers that allow you to add THX processing....but not to Mult. Ch. Ext PCM inputs.

tacomaprime
  Aug 21, 2009
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hmmm. torn I am. I have a 80gb ps3 that has 4 usb ports up front and backwards compatibility. The bitstreaming is intriguing, but the faster processing, cooler running temps and smaller profile intrigues me more.

tilapiah6
  Aug 21, 2009
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Never hurts to have a spare!

reson8er
  Aug 21, 2009
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@Truelyhypnotic

Yes you CAN upgrade the harddrive. There is a small cover on the bottom that reveals a screw which, when removed, allows you to switch out the harddrive.

neos_peace
  Aug 21, 2009
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NOW I AM GETTING ONE DIFFENTLY. I wasn't worried about bitstreaming, BUT. NOw it will be cool to see my onkyo light up with the codec being used. Looks like I'll be seing about selling my old PS3 to a new lucky owner.

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dobyblue
  Aug 21, 2009
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The PS3 didn't support multi-channel PCM analog output anyway, so the point is pretty moot.
davcole
  Aug 21, 2009
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Congrats on the PS3, now it literally does everything!!
JohnnyBlue
  Aug 21, 2009
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I've been very happy with my PS3 but rather than upgrade to the new Slim version, I purchased an Oppo-BD83 for $200 more than the slim PS3. I use both my PS3 and the Oppo.

They each have their strong points:
- The PS3 is superior for viewing image files (smooth scrolling and zooming).
- The PS3 seems to load BD-Live Content more quickly.
- The PS3 has a built-in hard drive but the Oppo will support an external hard drive
- The Oppo offers full bitstreaming.
- Both load most Blu-ray discs fairly rapidly.
- The Oppo plays SACD and DVD-Audio discs
- The Oppo runs cool and very quietly
- The Oppo uses much less electricity

The reason I purchased the Oppo was due to the PS3's inability to play one of my multi-region BD discs from the UK. That disc contains some Standard Definition PAL material at the beginning. The PS3 saw that and stopped. The Oppo saw it and converted it into NTSC Standard Definition. It played the entire disc perfectly.

For anyone concerned that the new Slim PS3 has only 2 USB ports, here is a hub that can be purchased for $20 that adds 2 additional USB ports and an SD memory card reader:

http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-3-Media-Hub/dp/B001BSA5Z0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1250864841&sr=8-2

This hub was designed for the current fat PS3. If it does not fit the slim model, I would expect the company to come out with a new version for the slim.

The Spanierd
  Aug 21, 2009
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Well it look like I might buy one for $199 with the Sony Credit Card promo. ( They take $100 first purchase of $199 or more ).

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Blu Titan
  Aug 21, 2009
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Best electronic value in the entire universe. Well, this seals the deal!

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STARSCREAM
  Aug 21, 2009
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Wow, gonna sell like hot cakes!

Kaminari
  Aug 21, 2009
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Really not worth throwing your bulky PS3 out the window, as decoding multichannel bitstream on the receiver rather than on the player is nothing but placebo. But of course, it's a nice feature to have for new PS3 comers.

DefTechPioElite
  Aug 21, 2009
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@chojin999:
I dont think Sony was ripping customers off. If they had added bitstreaming to earlier models, it would have made the hardware EVEN MORE expensive then it's $600 and $500 original price tags. Bitstreaming is a hardware, not software, feature so they was no way for them to make it upgradeable. This is no different than a new version of a car model or a new PC upgrade. If you want the new features and dont mind losing the old ones, buy it. If you want to keep your old features(BC, Card reader, Linux, etc.) then dont buy it. Let's call it what it is, and that IS NOT a rip off. I , for one, do not have a PS2 but have PS2 games, and love the memory card reader, so I will stick with my 4-USB model, and possibly buy the slim as a second model later.
rajendra82
  Aug 21, 2009
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@DefTechPioElite

I don't see how bitstreaming of the HD codecs is an expensive hardware feature. The old PS3 clearly has the ability to read the audio data on the blu-ray discs. After all it decodes it before passing it on. How difficult is it to just send the undecoded bitstream over HDMI instead of the decoded audio. Even the $98 Mag from Wal-Mart player does it.

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Dynamo of Eternia
  Aug 21, 2009
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Well, I'm not exactly an "audiophile", but at the same time I've never really been able to experience proper Hi-Def audio since I don't have a proper receiver (which is something I plan to rectify sometime down the road), but this is still very good news.

Regardless of whether or not the end resulting sound is the same as what can be acheived on existing PS3 models, the fact that you have more options certainly is a good thing.

I don't get why a some people are getting upset about this as if this is some evil thing that Sony has done. People have requested this, it's something that they can't facilitate in this exact manner on existing PS3 models, so they added this to this new model. If it's not worth it for people to trade in their existing PS3 for the new one or to buy a 2nd one and have both, then fine, they don't have to, and they are no worse off than they would be if Sony had never made this new slim version of the PS3 with these features.



I for one am considering getting one of these for a few reasons related to my own conveluted entertainment set up.

I have a Hi Def TV, but then sitting on a small cart next to it is a smaller, old, standard-def TV. Why you may ask? Well, when I'm only playing a game, or only playing a movie, the Hi-Def TV is the one to get used. However, there are times where I like putting on a TV show or a movie, but also like to play a game at the same time. And typically the game goes on the small TV with the movie/TV show on the HD set.

I've been doing this for sometime, with various gaming systems. When I first got my PS3 (which is an 80GB from the Motorstorm bundle, with the PS2 compatibility, because the gamer in me still wanted those features), I already had other systems that I played a lot, and I mainly got it for Blu-Ray movies because another stand-alone player (which I got for free as an award) ended up having a lot of stupid issues with disc compatibility, firmware updates, etc. So, things were going well there.

However, fast forward to now. 2 major things have long since happened. One is that my Blu-Ray collection has grown quite considerably, making up a larger portion of my overall collection than it previously did. The other is that I've been using the PS3 more and more for gaming than I used to. This results in a dilema... since the other BD player is basically crap, if I want to watch a Blu-Ray movie and play a game on PS3 at the same time, I'm basically SOL. If I want to watch something on TV or a DVD, it's not a problem, but I've almost been avoiding watching Blu-Ray movies because of this lately.

So, I've been considering getting another Blu-Ray player for this reason. Plus, I'd rather cut back on using my backwards compatible 80GB PS3 for watching movies anyway, as to not add more wear on it than I have to.

While I was considering stand alone players, this new PS3 may be the answer, with the nice reduced price, and with PS3 still being one of the most reliable players for updates, disc compatibility, etc. I've been kicking around the idea of getting another PS3 Dual Shock controller for my existing PS3 anyway (right now I have the regular Sixaxis that came with my system and one Dual Shock controller that I bought separately). So getting this new system would be like buying the controller for the usual $50 price, and then getting a $250 BD player, which isn't a bad price for a good BD player. I would just assign all of the controllers to the PS3 that I own now, and assign the Blu-Ray remote that I have to the new system.


The other advantage is that even though I really wouldn't use the new PS3 for gaming, I would still likely put my PSN account on it and download all of my DLC that I've paid for to it in addition to my current system. That way I'd have the DLC in 2 places, which will be nice for the long run when some of this content inevitably becomes unavailable to redownload sometime in the future.

Plus, by getting this new PS3 and using it as my main BD player, I'd have these nice audio options for when I do eventually upgrade the receiver... and I can't comlpain about having more options!

Paul.R.S
  Aug 21, 2009
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SA-CD?

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BD4Life
  Aug 21, 2009
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This concludes BD features missing from the PS3. I will now sale my stand alone BD player and go back and get a new slim PS3.

doctorD
  Aug 21, 2009
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I think I just shed a tear for joy! Thanks once again Sony...you rock!!!

stubiedoo
  Aug 21, 2009
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does this mean people will be selecting bitstream on there ps3 instead of pcm

Blu-Me
  Aug 21, 2009
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Yeah! And now it's time to return the fatty and get the slim. Done.
CampbellzSoup
  Aug 21, 2009
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niiiiice

vassillios
  Aug 21, 2009
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@dobyblue

What point?

Furley_Ghost
  Aug 21, 2009
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You can't use Linux as an OS on the slim... It doesn't do everything!!!

Mr. Spiffy-Pants
  Aug 21, 2009
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Going to have to second the sentiment made earlier about PS2 backwards compatibility. I'm holding onto my original 60GB PS3 until it dies or a firmware update/PSN Store download somehow makes it available. I hate having a bunch of devices plugged into my TV and having to go the PS2 Slim + PS3 Slim route would annoy me...

I must admit, however, that the PS3 Slim intrigues me. I was very disappointed when no BC w/PS2 was announced. It's a definite purchase if Sony ever comes up with a fix/workaround for that.

davidxiphoid
  Aug 21, 2009
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@truelyhypnotic "can u upgrade the hardrive?"

ANSWER: YES..same way as before but taken from the top as opposed to the side on the older models.

Picking this one up for sure and using my OG 60GB as a back up =D

Lweel8
  Aug 21, 2009
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Did the wifi get upgraded to N?

Freekman
  Aug 21, 2009
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This is good news. Now all I need is a new receiver that can play HD audio codecs.
gadame1
  Aug 21, 2009
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Do any body know if the new slim ps3 has a HDMI CEC complain? or Sony´s Bravia Sync

blukrank
  Aug 21, 2009
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I will pick one of these up. Thoe I will have to wait to either October or Nov.As I'm going on a trip in a few weeks.So no spending money on anything untill I get back.

funnymanbing
  Aug 21, 2009
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Well, that's good news. I didn't think they were going to add this, so they fooled me. Good job Sony!
roppongi_akira
  Aug 21, 2009
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Really dissapoint for me, still no SACD support! Prefer 60GB model is the best!

troyman21
  Aug 21, 2009
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Geez, on one hand, this is a great new feature, but on the other hand, I still can't help but be turned off by how cheap looking the PS3 Slim looks...

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MAD7334
  Aug 21, 2009
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This is the best news of the new slimmer ps3, besides the obvious price drop. Very nice Sony. Hopefully they will eventually come out with a firmware update with this one that will make it backwards compatible
rpe94
  Aug 21, 2009
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But like the article states, there's really no differene, right? The old PS3 still offers this in the player instead of the receiver. What am I missing?

Papi4baby
  Aug 21, 2009
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Sounds like another PS3 is in store for me.

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hardcorefrokid
  Aug 21, 2009
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Sweet Jesus, if I didn't buy a PS3 4 months ago I'd pick this up. Time to save up.
terminal33
  Aug 21, 2009
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Relax people... technically there is no difference whether the PS3 decodes the audio or a receiver decodes it. It's all in your head.... not ears...=)

Mobe1969
  Aug 21, 2009
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Indeed, "It only does everything"

Frigging awesome Sony.

JohnnyBlue - regarding the Oppo, what is the comparison? Even before the price cut they weren't in the same price range. The oppo is not cheap.

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fettastic
  Aug 21, 2009
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I'll say it ONE MORE TIME for the haters! Playstation hasn't snubbed Linux installation on the new Slim model, Linux operates off a FLASH DRIVE NOW so it's NOT NECESSARY to partition 10GB of your hard drive anymore!

http://www.linuxpr.com/releases/11565.html

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fettastic
  Aug 21, 2009
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The only difference between decoding in the player vs. decoding in the reciever is the little "DTS HD MA" or "Dolby TrueHD" light on the reciever if you bitstream.

Some claim it's louder or clearer or something, but that illusion is caused by the reciever processing the sound, applying filters and enhancements to it, etc.

It should be mentioned that bitstreaming the audio makes menu sounds, PIP audio and other secondary sounds not work.

steve1971
  Aug 21, 2009
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Wow the "almost complete" PS3. I like it and it seems to now do everything. I will be picking one of these for sure.

indiephantom
  Aug 21, 2009
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My first PS3 is now pre-ordered on Amazon.ca. I couldn't be happier.

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un4gvn94538
  Aug 21, 2009
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i dont see any reason to sell my 60gig for a slim just for hd bitstreaming and hearing the same audio. now if it had b/c and sacd support for dsd that would be different. the kids have a ps2 in thier rooms so its easy to go from one room to another when playing a ps2 game if needed. if my 60 gig breaks down, ill just pony the 150 to fix it. its worth it to me. plus its shiny

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  Aug 21, 2009  
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  Aug 21, 2009  
HomeTheaterVirgin
  Aug 21, 2009
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My first Ps 3 has been orderered as well cant wait

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RBBrittain
  Aug 21, 2009
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@chojin999: Sony has stated before that the HDMI chipset in older PS3s was created before the 1.3 standard was finalized; it CANNOT support bitstreaming (edit: of TrueHD/DTS-HD MA), even though it supports some other aspects of 1.3. It supports LPCM (edit: and DD/DTS bitstreaming) because that has been part of HDMI from the beginning. Bandwidth was never the issue; it was a hardware limitation. That's why I started the Slim-bitstreaming thread in the forums, even though I'm in the LPCM camp; if the PS3 would EVER support bitstreaming, the Slim was the time to update the chipset so it could happen. Evidently, that is exactly what happened.

(BTW, BraviaSync is simply Sony's brand name for HDMI-CEC. Like other hardware vendors, Sony will only guarantee it works with its own products; that's why each vendor advertises HDMI-CEC by its own brand--BraviaSync, Anynet+, etc. It may OR may not work with other vendors' HDMI-CEC implementations, but if it's not a Sony, you takes your chances. And it's limited to the Slim for the same reason as bitstreaming--i.e., not supported by the fat PS3's HDMI 1.1-era chipset.)

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nathanp
  Aug 21, 2009
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Looks like I'll have to find some unknowing schmuck to buy my 80gb PS3, shouldn't be too hard.

HD 335
  Aug 21, 2009
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Now all it needs is Netflix streaming!

nward
  Aug 21, 2009
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looks like it may be time for ps3 #2

frank_t
  Aug 21, 2009
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SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm getting one anyway, but damn! Now my receiver will display the codec

Wait. Why am I excited by this?

Anyway -- the old PS3 goes to the game room. The PS3 slim replaces it as a media server and blu-ray player.

Sony rocks.
Tempest
  Aug 21, 2009
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>>> Now all it needs is Netflix streaming!

Many PS3 Owners already enjoy Netflix streaming using Playon software and a PC to stream it to the PS3/TV
king_dbz
  Aug 21, 2009
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eh makes no difference to me, ive had my PS3 hooked up to a 5.1 setup for 2 years lol works fine.

CAB
  Aug 21, 2009
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I wonder if decode in the Receiver means less CPU usage in the PS3. Less heat there too? Figure it has to with the heavy load DTS must require.

Robert Siegel
  Aug 21, 2009
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Wow I can't believe some people are buying a 2nd PS3 just so their receiver says "DTS MA or Dolby True. That logo lighting up on my receiver ain't worth $300 to me. To each their own I guess, I would rather buy about 12-15 more movies. It's already lossless either way. Plus, bitstreaming the sound will not allow thesound to work on picture-in-picture. Oh well.

GreatWhite83
  Aug 22, 2009
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I will be sticking with the original 60gb, sacd, memory card reader (sony memory stick???) and 4 usbs. I cannot believe sony have got rid of the card readers especailly the memory stick? and usb ports and also sacd.

This was meant to be the all singing all dancing family media hub. It is now just a cheaply made gaming machine with no SONY quality appeal that I am used to. I will stick to my sony blu ray player to bitstream or decode lossless audio codecs.

AikonEnt
  Aug 22, 2009
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"It should be mentioned that bitstreaming the audio makes menu sounds, PIP audio and other secondary sounds not work. " Thanks for that info fettastic. I was wondering why the last couple of PIP tracks I'd tried had no audio.

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soulfly80
  Aug 22, 2009
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Cant wait for the new improved ps3. This will be my forth ps3

Ray O. Blu
  Aug 22, 2009
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Hope it does well. Might pick one up after the buzz dies down and performance reviews start coming in.
Like some others, I'll just stick to my 80G Motorstorm bundle with 4 usb ports, memory card/stick reader, and sacd playback.
blu_it_is
  Aug 22, 2009
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I don't see any mention of this thing having an infrared receiver for a remote controller other than the bluetooth. If that is the case Sony probably doesn't realize how many potential buyers they're missing on just because those people can't integrate the PS3 into the list of components they control using their HT universal remote without buying Logitech's pricey bluetooth interface. The ability to bistream is a nice addition, but they could have gone all the way by including an infrared receiver.

mustang-gt-2002
  Aug 22, 2009
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will it play PS2 games?

DR BLU NEO
  Aug 22, 2009
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I want two ps3s

DjLoudsound
  Aug 22, 2009
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It would love it if they offered a trade-in credit from your own ps3 to get this one. Then at least previous owners can have the option since the old ones cant bitstream.
whiteboy70176
  Aug 22, 2009
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Looks like I gotta go kick an XBox fanboy in the nuts now.

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LordCrumb
  Aug 22, 2009
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what about longer warrantees? anyone have their laser crap out on them and not get it fixed under warrantee? my bro-in-law had to take Sony/Harvey Normans to small claims to get his money back when they refused to fix it because it was just under 2 years old. he won, got over a grand back.

Army Of Dorkness
  Aug 22, 2009
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"will it play PS2 games?"

They don't play ps2 games, only ps1.
Blasphemus
  Aug 23, 2009
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Errrr, I am a little confused, everyone's jumping up and down "Hoooray Hoorary!!!" Sony's king, M$ sux, ect. but let me get this straight, its smaller, still doesn't play PS2, Now it plays "bitstreamed audio", (no sound difference according to many), is smaller and that's it, right?.....so like I asked, "Am I missing something here?" why is this so much better? Or are you all just Sony lovers? Thanx

CAB
  Aug 23, 2009
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^
Less heat, less noise, less space, less $, adds a feature to enhance HD audio processing in an external pro.

A product can't be all things to one person much less all people.

Ray O. Blu
  Aug 23, 2009
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I have six Sony remotes within arm's reach of my LazyBoy recliner screaming at me to, "Tell 'em you're a Sony lover!".
moverob
  Aug 23, 2009
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I cannot wait to upgrade to this new console.

Thank you, Sony.

kknight
  Aug 23, 2009
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Damn I might I have to get PS3 Slim now, not only this, takes less electricity, more compact, possibly faster cell chip? and now this.. Sweet!
ps3gamrr
  Aug 23, 2009
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I'm not that knowledgeable about audio codecs and what not but bascially can any receiver accept and then play the HD audio if it contains HDMI 1.3a ports on it. I own a relatively inexpensive HTIB system that i bought from Sony so that I can listen to T.V. in surround primarily. I'm just curious if this unit can handle the bistreaming of TrueHD and DTS-HD. It has the HDMI ports that are 1.3a compliant. the Sony model number is HT-SS360. Any info is appreciated.

sfmarine
  Aug 23, 2009
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Great news...I'll be getting one of these shortly!
matt87
  Aug 23, 2009
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tempting, but as I already have a ps3, there is really nothing to gain by my buying the slim that I couldn't gain by just buying a standalone bluray player (quieter, bitstream ect). maybe if I could be bothered to sell my current ps3...

Ray O. Blu
  Aug 23, 2009
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PS3gmrr: I sent you a PM about your question. Basically, that model can't decode the HD signal via bitstream. You have to let the new and older PS3 models decode the HD audio and send the signal via LPCM to your receiver.

Alvin4822
  Aug 23, 2009
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For all conventional PS3 owner, just wait for the vast improvement of the firmware 3.0......

demiscy
  Aug 23, 2009
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Why Alvin? Do you think firmware 3 will add this feature?
sexydanny21awesome
  Aug 23, 2009
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This very funny of Sony saying all this crap you see theres thing on old ps3 called fiber optics cable that can use that high def format all there saying is can get through another audio which will actually give less good surround sound. I own old ps3 and use fiber optics cable and get best surround sound you can get so I say dont be fooled by Sony marking trying get something thats not even worth getting the old ps3 can do surround sound just fine through fiber optics which will give best surround sound money can get!

focuspuller
  Aug 23, 2009
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Make it complatly Region Free and You got yourself a deal.

(I already own a PS3 as my only Blu-ray player for the record, and I love it. I'm actually one of those people that doesn't use it for games.)

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Desphils
  Aug 23, 2009
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Great news... hope it stays cooler. 60GB Edition is getting around 140 degrees.
nloader
  Aug 23, 2009
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if this news is true, who want to buy sony's entry-level standalone blu-ray player?

TL OWNS U
  Aug 23, 2009
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Meh, TL will still keep TL's PS3 till it dies, but GJ Sony

Chaco
  Aug 24, 2009
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dang it, just for that i think i will buy me a second PS3
sanjaystuart
  Aug 25, 2009
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I just sold my old one and have pre-orderd a new slim for the bit-streaming feature

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Mordir
  Aug 25, 2009
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@sexydanny21awesome

Optical and coax are limited to stereo PCM. They are fully capable of transmitting encoded 5.1 sources such as Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS But, they cannot carry multichannel PCM or the newer lossless codecs. You need HDMI for those. HDMI doesn't "give less good surround sound". It will give the same lossy 5.1 encoded tracks if that's all you choose to send however one of the benefits of bluray is lossless audio which you can't achieve with a fiber optic connection.

BluMood
  Aug 28, 2009
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Bitstream is the ONLY way to go. Put your money in the receiver and send the raw digital to it via HDMI.


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