Managed Copy on Discs before Players

Managed copy, the BD feature that enables consumers to make one copy of any Blu-ray Disc they buy, comes into effect on December 4, and most BD titles released after that date will support it. However, there are no players able to make those backups and thus the Advanced Access Content System License Administrator (AACS-LA), which also is in charge of managed copy, is delaying some requirements for studios until the second quarter of next year. As we explained in June, managed-copy-compatible BDs will include a menu option to make a menu option to make a managed copy. The player will connect online to an authentication server, which will determine if the copy is allowed. However, that feature will be invisible to consumers with players that don't support it. Managed copy support is not a hardware requirement, and indeed, no manufacturer has announced any player that supports managed copy so far. Some devices are expected next year, probably beginning with PC drives. Because of that, managed copy won't be promoted or even listed in the disc details until March 31, although as we said, discs released on or after December 4 will support it. By the second quarter of 2010, the infrastructure for managed copy is expected to be in place.
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jtwise  » Nov 06, 2009
interesting...

un4gvn94538  » Nov 06, 2009
im wondering if a firmware update for existing pc blu ray drives will enable support

BLURAYSONYES  » Nov 06, 2009
but I already heard from others that some software out there can bypass the copy protection to make copies of BD and play them on any BD player or am I mistaken for any of this?

HDTV1080P  » Nov 06, 2009

Currently there are 2TB hard drives available. In the future consumers most likely will be able to purchase a media server with 20TB or more storage that will connect to a 10GB per second CAT6A network or a 1GB per second CAT6 or CAT5E home wired network. Then future BLU-RAY players will in theory access that 20TB+ media server to watch a large selection of BLU-RAY movies. I wonder how much studios will charge to make a authorized exact bit for bit copy of a 50GB disc to a hard drive or blank BLU-RAY disc. http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6705943.html

painted_klown  » Nov 06, 2009
Is it just me or does this seem like ligitimized pirating? Not that I am against this idea but I am shocked that any studios are backing this.

KaiGusto  » Nov 06, 2009
Yeah im sure that by doing this, someone will be able to crack the 'backup' so it can be copied multiple times...

Afrobean  » Nov 07, 2009

People would probably just sell pirate discs to friends. There is potential in this idea though. It should DRM'd SOFTWARE RIPS, not HARD COPIES. Use this technology to create a high quality digital copy that they could then transcode to a lower bitrate and lower resolution and put on their iPod or run directly as a backup digital copy. Sort of like how music listeners will rip their CDs and listen to FLAC files on their computer or transcode to MP3 for portable devices.

greyrocket  » Nov 07, 2009
i can all ready copy blu rays to my hard drive on my pc

Dynamo of Eternia  » Nov 07, 2009

"Is it just me or does this seem like ligitimized pirating? Not that I am against this idea but I am shocked that any studios are backing this." I think the idea is that studios know that a lot of people want to have a back-up copy incase their main one gets damaged. And this will only allow one copy to be made. It's not something you can do over and over. But, I'll be interested to see how this works out in the long run. Frankly, if they are going to do this, then why not just include 2 copies of the movie on Blu-Ray inside the case to start with, instead of going through the hassle of creating this ridiculous authentication technology that likely won't work as well as it should? I can see something going wrong when making the back-up copy, the recordable disc gets ruined, and then there's no way to start the process over again.

stubiedoo  » Nov 07, 2009
Seems a waste of time to me unless you're up to no good.

wallendo  » Nov 07, 2009
Since BD-R's are so expensive, it is probably cheaper to buy 2 new discs than make a backup.

Wolfie  » Nov 07, 2009
AWWWW, I'll just buy the movies from retailers as they come out. They are cheap enough now anyway. Wolfie

indiephantom  » Nov 08, 2009
What's the point of this? Is it purely for backup? Will it backup all the content as well?

mredman  » Nov 09, 2009
Just don't see the logic. In this. Nobody wants a cheap copy. I will just buy the movie again from the stores if the other one gets lost

phatrat1982  » Nov 09, 2009

I think it is a good idea. That way they can make it easier for people who want a second copy for the bedroom or whatever. Sometimes I can't figure out the people on this site, people complain if there is copy protection then they complain when a studio offers a legal way to by pass copy protection and you complain either way. Studios have a right to charge money for a product they SPENT MONEY TO MAKE. Nobody has a right to inherently own something they did not pay money for. Steeling is just plain wrong.

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