Television series are among the product categories where consumers are being slowest embracing Blu-ray, mainly because of the price differential between the hidef and standard-def versions of season sets. As a consequence, not all series are receiving a BD version, and retailers are more cautious stocking TV titles on BD than movies.
Sources quoted by Video Business say that to date, the average TV title streeting in DVD and BD sells just 5% of its copies on high-definition disc, as opposed to the 12% to 15% BD average market share for theatrical new releases. However, percentages vary widely. For example, at DeepDiscount, over half of the sales of 'Mad Men' came from Blu-ray. Other strong sellers are 'Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2', 'Fringe: The Complete First Season' and 'Lost'. On the other hand, 'The Office: Season Five' sold just under 5% of its total copies in high-def at DeepDiscount.
According to retailers and studios, one of the main reasons for the lower relative sales is the price premium on Blu-ray TV sets, which is often $10 or more per season set over the DVD version. It might be argued that many season sets comprise multiple discs (which increases Blu-ray authoring and production costs), and that the premium per hour of programme is actually lower than for a theatrical feature film on Blu-ray, but the price differential is a deterrent nonetheless. Indeed, Blu-ray sets that have a list price close or identical to its DVD version (such as 'Mad Men') tend to sell best.
As a result of lower sales, studios are still wary about which TV series to publish on BD, and even have pulled back from some BD releases and gone back to DVD only, such as Sony Pictures Home Entertainment with 'Rescue Me' (which had a BD release for Season Three, but not for Seasons Four or Five) and 'Damages' (Season Two announced on DVD for January 2010 with no Blu-ray in sight), and Warner Home Video with 'Nip/Tuck' (for which the fourth season proved to be an exception).
“The significant amount of content and multiple discs make the financial model challenging for many TV series on Blu-ray and is a significant reason for the methodical approach studios are taking to release product,” said Rosemary Markson, VP of TV marketing for Warner Home Video. “Unfortunately, Nip/Tuck Blu-ray sales were insufficient to continue releasing in the format.” Warner is focusing on action and science-fiction genres, as the studio's strategy is “focused on releasing TV shows that can best showcase the superior picture quality of Blu-ray”.
Similarly, some retailers are more selective about TV on Blu-ray. At InMotion Entertainment, its standard DVD/Blu-ray with TV material is 10 to 1, versus 5 to 1 on new release feature films. Consequently, he chain orders most new release films on Blu-ray, but when it comes from TV, it cherry-picks what to carry and what not. “I think they need to be real close in pricing, within $5,” said Steve Torr, director of purchasing at InMotion.
With the increased number of BD pressing plants that are now in operation around the world, I simply do not believe the studios when they say there is still a significant cost premium to manufacture BDs versus DVDs.
But as long as they want to play that game, they are really hurting themselves, in lost revenues, more than they are hurting us, the consumer. Shame on them!
WB might see better sales if they would go full high def, including lossless audio along with the HD video. While I will buy certain older shows on DVD that may never see a BD release, I have specifically avoided shows like Rescue Me on DVD waiting until a BD release comes out. I'm on a limited budget right now, but I still pounce on BD TV sets that give me lossless audio like True Blood Season 1 and even lackluster seasons of shows I've collected previous seasons of like Heroes Season 3,, but I've been buying WB seasons used because I can't justify spending the full price, even at Amazon's discount on something that doesn't give me what I want.
I think some of the reasons they aren't doing well are BECAUSE the studios are hesitant. I don't want to buy a series on BR only to find out season 2 or whatever won't come out BR. So I'd just wait and see. Or why buy a show where only season 3 is on BR? Doesn't make sense. I've avoided buying TV series altogether because of this. If they aren't going to do a complete release in the format, why bother? I wanted to pick up Robin Hood in BR, but wait, only season 1 came out. Nope. I wanted to pick up Legend of the Seeker, but only DVD. Nope. Shows like the Office are a poor example because Seasons 1-4 aren't on BR for one, the picture probably matters less on a show like that than a sci-fi or action show, and to top it off many people think season 5 wasn't one of the better ones anway, so people might've just avoided it in general in such a case. If the studios aren't going to commit to a full release, they're going to find they continue to have problems. I know I won't buy a series in BR that has only one season out and no future ones in sight. I'll just hold out hope for a complete series set at the end, I guess.
Back in 2006 when I was living in Vancouver and considering buying a PS3, I spoke with the manager of a Best Buy about the whole Hi-Def explosion and he told me that there had been a conference between retailers and the AMPTP where the retailing representatives practically BEGGED the studios to release TV on Blu-Ray first at affordable prices because TV sets outsold movies on DVD. The retailers were assured this would be the case, only to see wave of movies after movies with no Blu-Ray TV in sight. Needless to say, they were not happy.
The manager told me then that retailers expected this boneheaded decision to prolong the hi-def adaptation and would give them headaches for the next 2-3 years. They were also quite upset that their valuable and insightful input had been ignored.
As a consumer, I have to agree that TV on Blu-Ray is far more interesting. It is ridiculous with all TV being filmed in high-definition that we can't buy them on hi-def discs. The first Blu-Ray I ever bought was Batman Begins which was released just before the blockbuster The Dark Knight in 2008. I actually went two years without buying a single Blu-Ray because there was no TV and a movie I really wanted finally came out. Can you imagine how many other people are putting off the move to high-def players and discs as a result?
Paramount/CBS is releasing the original CSI on Blu-Ray -- 10 years after the show started, 3 years after high-def became mass-market. In those 10 years, every season has already been released on regular DVD. So who's going to buy the Blu-Rays now?
Likely nobody, and then this will be another justification as to why Blu-Ray TV is a "failure." Personally, I'd love to see "Star Trek" The Next Generation released on remastered Blu-Ray.
I agree the uncertainty is also a big factor. Not just the question of the next season coming out, but previous seasons, or even seasons in the middle of a series. I am still quite annoyed that I cannot get the first seasons of Smallville and Supernatural on BD and it makes me a little less happy about buying the first BD release of a series when that release is not the first season. I am leery about CSI and Prison Break, but am very happy with Dexter since I have all three seasons and have some confidence in Season 4 coming out. I also do not want half seasons or volumes, I want season or year one, 2, 3, and so on or the whole series in a big set. Once you take street discount into account, the price difference isn't all that much for what you get by going with the BD version. While the price difference might be an issue with some consumers, I think a lot of hesitation comes down to uncertainty about being able to collect the show you want all in one format.
"With the increased number of BD pressing plants that are now in operation around the world, I simply do not believe the studios when they say there is still a significant cost premium to manufacture BDs versus DVDs."
A BD-25 costs over double what a DVD-9 does. But it's not the physical medium, it's the authoring and compression costs. Blu-ray costs, 3-5x per disc what DVD does to create, assuming basic level authoring, nothing fancy, and 5-7x if they're writing custom java code for it. On a compression level, a Blu-ray movie takes 3-4x as long to compress as well on state of the art equipment. All this adds up to boku bucks
Price is the main deterrent for me as well as lack of interest in nearly all they've released. I'm really wishing they would release some older tv series on blu. Specifically, Queer as Folk. The dvds, whether in the show's first or final season, look horrid even by dvd standards. It's ridiculous. The series is not that old; it would draw in several buyers. I'm surprised it wasn't released already to be honest.
After reading this article and knowing my own personal opinions on BD you see that the best selling BD shows are action/adventure or Mad Men (real cheap for some reason on BD). The problem is like myself, I'm sure people don't care about comedies on BD because the difference picture wise is usually not great. Action shows on the other hand should be considered for BD purposes because of the awe factor we usually get from visuals, special effects, and CGI. Lost for example is a show I have never seen on DVD and I don't want to. I own the third season and believe that to be one of the best BD video quality movies or television.
I figure in time once BD production cost get lower like DVD's did we will see BD Television Sets be cheaper then DVD. Look at Weeds for example I got the fourth season today at BB.com for 14.99 where as the DVD version is usually like 24.99. The factor that is ultimately hindering this problem is TIME. In time we will see these prices go down and the TV companies will realize that they are going to have to re-master these DVD sets to BD.
One of the main reason why TV on Blu is struggling is because for the most part, it's only the newer shows being released, and many people aren't digging what scripted TV is giving us these days. Bring out shows made before 2000 and you will have more sales. Hey Sony - where's Seinfeld?
I'm amused they mention "Damages." I loved S1, but I didn't think it looked that great on BD. Also, I know so many people who can't understand or refuse to see that BD is markedly better. If studios can't produce a TV-on-BD that is substantionally better than the DVD counterpart, then it's not surprising that consumers aren't biting. I picked up Supernatural S3 on BD and wasn't wowed. I even got HIMYM on BD and while it's great, I've got trouble with loading/playing. I wonder if it's issues like these that have kept consumers cautious.
There are only a select few TV series I'd be willing to spend the extra money for if they were on blu.
However, I will buy a season of a show I like on blu if it gets discounted enough. Walmart's got a load of series that are already at $15 and $20 at on regular DVD. Eventually, some series already on blu will get that cheap.
I think the article tells the whole story. TV shows with a strong action component (Terminator, for example), or in which set dressing/ambience are important (Mad Men, for instance), will sell better than sitcoms like The Office, for whom the benefits of high definition aren't all that vital to enjoyment of the show. Likewise, shows with a strong nerd audience will sell better than average on a format whole most prevalent player doubles as a gaming console.
I wonder if the rewatchability of TV shows also make a difference. I own the first three seasons of the Sopranos on DVD and have only watched them once -- I rented the remaining seasons, and saved myself considerable cash -- this is series I enjoyed but I have no interest to re-watch. TV series require an investment in time that movies do not. LOST season one, for example, requires almost 18hours to watch and here in Canada cost over 60 bucks to own (twice the DVD price) -- personally, I would rather send that time watching films I haven't seen.
From what I have seen lately on the shelves, it seems like the DVDs are being priced super low in an attempt to milk every last penny out of people in that format, then they will do the same as they did with movies and ask everyone to upgrade. I have already stopped buying DVDs of tv shows and sold off my collection. Note to Warner Brothers, please release the earlier seasons of Supernatural and Smallville on Blu-ray. You could also release One Tree Hill and I'd buy that! I especially would love it if FOX would release Buffy the Vampire Slayer 16x9 Blu-rays and Angel!
What I'm curious about is older TV shows shot on video. I liked Roseanne and I believe it was shot on some sort of video system and of course back in the 90's that wasn't HD. Shows like that may never look good on Blu Ray.
The prices are starting to come down though. Target will be having Lost season 5 for $47.99 on blu, and $39.99 on DVD. So that isn't much of a price jump. More studios should keep faith in TV on blu-ray. I personally love it. Having Lost, Dexter, Fringe, Rome and others on blu is wonderful. As long as ALL the seasons of a show are on blu. I feel bad for fans of Prison Break, half on blu, half on DVD. Just terrible management there.
I know people like me are in the minority overall, but I have no problem paying the higher price for TV shows on BD instead of DVD. There are a few exceptions though. If they want more people to buy seasons of TV, they need to lower the prices regardless of how much more it costs to put these shows on BD. Some are priced good, but not enough. The current price for the first season of Battlestar Galactica is outrageous. I know it could go down in price between now and January 5, but still.
The television series I like, I watched in HD on satellite. Why on Earth would I want to step down to SD and buy them on DVD. For me it is either release on blu-ray or nothing. Besides with the number of channels offering repeats in HD over and over again the studios should just be satisfied with the income they get for syndication. Their loss, not mine. You have to spend money to make money, and a 6% return on investment is enough for them. If television series isn't making at least 6% when released on either SD or blu-ray close up shop. If the return on investment is more that 6%, quit crying that it wasn't 1000%
From here on out (actually - as of December of '07, when I got my PS3), if TV shows aren't released on blu-ray (even if they were only originally shot in SD video and can't take advantage of HD video), I won't be buying them, because I no longer buy DVDs.
I do, however, already own many SD sets but unless it's an exceptional season of an exceptional show (e.g. The X-Files S1-S6, Millennium S1 & S2, CSI S7, ER S1-6, South Park S3-S11), I won't be upgrading.
The biggest issue I see if releasing BDs of shows for seasons out of place. Releasing Season 4 of My Name is Earl and The Unit? There's no point in buying it when I want to start with Season 1. Both shows are over so they can't claim its for people to catch up to a mythical season 5.
I for one would welcome Star Trek: The Next Generation, X-Files, Deadwood, and The Shield complete series on Blu. I have read that TNG would have to undergo a massive upgrade to HD as well as The Shield which may never see the light of HD. But like all things eventually they will make it to the format.
I personally am torn over the issue. On the one hand I really like having dual formats, I like buying tv shows on DVD and movies on Blu Ray, but there are some shows that I would really like to get in HD. On the other hand, I too like most people stopped buying DVD's once I upgraded to Blu Ray. Still I think it is kinda early in the game even 3 years in, I think that with more players in peoples homes, the cost of production decreasing and the economy starting to recover I think Blu Ray will become the new home for Tv seasons, just gotta give it some more time. I think once Friends and Seinfeld get their proper Blu Ray release that will start to change things even more. I have yet to buy a single tv series on Blu Ray yet and price is a big factor for me as well as selection, there's maybe 3 series total on Blu Ray I'd even consider and so far of those "Heroes" is the only one where each season gets a BR release.
I hardly ever rewatch TV shows on DVD. I loved Alias, Arrested Development, Seinfield, Scrubs, The Sopranos. I doubt I'd double dip on any of these. But, with current shows like Lost, Mad Men and Fringe I'll buy Blu for now on.
I'll be honest most of the TV shows in my collection are on DVD simply because I started the collection on DVD or they're not released on Blu. the only show I have on Blu so far which i will continue to collect in Blu is True Blood.
I think what keeps some people from buying, including myself is that they start the BD with the current season and leaving you speculating about when previous seasons will come out. I think the winner on BD right now is going to be the 13 episode a season shows like Mad Men.
This is a concern for me. Happily Lost and Heroes, two shoes I really like are on Blu. Though I would love to see classic shows like MacGyver and The A-Team (classic from me, I grew up in the 80s) and cult shows like Forever Knight, Star trek TNG.
Just because everyone asks, Seinfeld was shot on 16mm, and then edited in video. For the DVD sets they went back and re-did the edits in high definition, and then put these new high-def versions on DVD. Because they now have a high-def master, they're able to put out Seinfeld in high-def now (TBS and local affiliates). A blu-ray version is plausible, but I'd say a high-def VOD presentation is more likely, where the investment of producing a blu-ray set isn't involved.
Part of the problem is over valuing the software. Im a big fan of Rome and I have both seasons on DVD. HBO seems to think their shows r etched in gold. When the bd came out in Nov I would have loved to upgrade but $140 is absurd for 22 eps. I waited months for John Adams to become reasonable. Seven one hour eps listed for $80. Now it's $25. If it had come out at a fair price I would have had it a lot sooner.
The TV sets are about $20 to $25 too much. I'd buy more TV shows on blu-ray if there were more out there and they were priced right. I purchased season one of Fringe and it looks awesome but a DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD soundtrack would have sweetened the deal.
I'll buy quality shows on Blu-ray. The problem is though that here in Australia the price difference is absolutely ludicrous! I can buy all of Battlestar Galactica on DVD for $160 AUS, but for Blu-ray they want $380!!! 2.5 times the cost is crazy no matter how you look at it. Same goes for Star Trek TOS. I imported from Amazon and it cost me around $70 AUS. The DVDs are $40 AUS. If I bought the Blu-rays here in Australia they're $110! Once again, 2.5 times as much.
Get better prices and I'll buy more TV.
The other thing studios should take note of if they want to get people buying: release quality releases! Blu-ray is a high end PQ and AQ product. There's no way in hell you'll get me to throw down my hard earned $$$ for something with a lossy Dolby Digital soundtrack.
If I'm paying the premium price, I want the premium product. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
For the record I own the Star Trek seasons, Firefly and Band of Brothers. All excellent releases done right.
yeah it is the pricing. Why is TV shows so damn expensive on Blu.
Its the studios own fault, they should price them only a little higher then the DVD sets and they will see TV shows will really pick up sales on Bluray
For me, the main deterrent is the fact that I already own so many seasons of series on DVD. As a result, I want to keep my collection uniform by continuing them with the same packaging. When I started collecting WEEDS, HEROES, & LOST, I opted for the Blu-rays. But, my 7 seasons of SMALLVILLE, 4 seasons of THE OFFICE, & 5 volumes of ENTOURAGE are not going to be completed on BD. I'll continue buying the DVDs since I don't want to invest to replace them with BDs and I'll be able to maintain the shelf uniormity. However, I would (and do) gladly pay the BD premium for shows that are available from their first season on the BD format.
In the UK LOST is a perfect exaple of what is being mentioned here, Seasons 1-4 can be picked up for around £17 - £20 on DVD season 5 £30. On Blu-ray your looking at seasons 1-4 at £33 and season 5 £45. I love Lost and Blu-ray but at the moment that kind of price difference will mean i'm buying them on DVD for now.
The price might be a daterrant for some mass marketed tv-series, but for the fan series like Galactica etc. the price won't be so important I take.
The main problems for me right now is that I haven't bought any tv-boxes on DVD, because I've waited to get them on Blu-ray. Now the problem is that only the newest seasons are released on Blu-ray here.
Say I'd wan't to buy all of Lost. I'd need to buy seasons 1-3 on DVD and seasons 4-5 on Blu-ray. I still don't wan't those DVD:s so I won't buy the Blu-ray either. The same goes for a lot of other series too. Maybe I just should be the DVD:s ffs.
I admit I will not buy many shows on BD they have to be shows I am willing to watch again like BSG, BOB, LOST. Showes like T:TSCC, Frings or Smallville I would get if they were cheaper as I did not see all of them but I did not see them all as I did not care to. If the BD is a really good price I would pick it uo and chatch up. Other showes I could care less about and those seem to be the ones that are released. Where are shows like House M.D. and NCIS you know the good popular shows people watch?
Price is the determining factor for me. I am not spending $50 on a Blu-Ray season, or $40 on a TV season. I have over 400 Blu-Rays, and with prices crashing on catalog and new releases, it's senseless to me, to buy TV shows at these prices. Though Netflix streaming is not the best quality for all shows, I've started watching those via this method, so I don't waste money on shows I may never watch again. If they priced them like Weeds (Season 1 continues to be $14.99 off and on), I'd buy them, if I liked them enough. Just like with movies, BD prices need to be in line with SD new release pricing. BD new releases are now under $20. If TV BD shows were $20-30 they'd sell better. Then make the SD version $10-15. I am in media distribution myself, and understand the market very well. Margin and pushing qty is everything, but unless the BD prices come in line with SD for TV shows, the majority of the audience will not buy BD shows.
It depends on price and on product. I mean, I love "The Office" and have it in DVD. But it's cheapper than the BD release, I wont't get the hi-def. Don't see the point with this series.
But series like "Star Trek - Remastered", "LOST" or "Battlestar Galactica" have such great image and sound that they MUST be seen in Hi-Def if possible. For these releases, I would even pay more for the BDs than I'd normally pay for the DVDs.
I will buy tv shows on DVD simply because i know that some shows like brothers and sisters will not be ount oon BLu-ray anytime soon, or Star Trek becasue I lknow that paramount is not releaseing anby of the series other than TOS on Blu-ray at the mmment, so If i really want to see specific series i will buy them and once BLu-Ray has a stronger position in the market and once the prioce of the blu-rays drop i can then trasnition the tv shows to blu-ray. (until then my ps3 makes the dvds look alright) and yes i have transitioned my DVD moviues collection over to blu-ray on about 1/3 of the movies that i own.
Bring on Seasons 2,3,4 & 5 of THE SOPRANOS PLEASE !!! I sold my standard DVDs after seeing how great season 1 in Blu was, and got seasons 6.1 & 6.2 nearly immediately after !
I would also gladly invest in ALL seasons of RESCUE ME as well.
I think part of the problem is that people have already started their series collection on DVD and they don't want to buy the next season in a different format in a different sized box.
Every new series should definitely be released on BD because they are BROADCAST in HD! By not releasing those sets on BD, you are BEGGING viewers to either keep DVRs of the shows or pirate them! Who cares if some series don't sell well, they will eventually. Having everything come out on BD is what's going to build confidence in the format and then everybody wins.
You have to take into acct. many series have been slow to come out, some are faster. Like Mary Tyler Moore for example. the series ran 7 years. They issued 1-4 and stopped. not till this year did they do season 5. Not till 2010 will season 6 be out. But many folks bagan series on standard dvd and they have standard dvd players. Why would any studio release 10 seaaons of MASH and the 111th only on bluray?
It would be sales suicide. Once BD is more adopted and full series are issued on BD, it may be better to dive into having folks take the plunge. But also price point is a BIG factor, why BD folks don't get this, it interesting.
Well look back at the first 3 years of DVD, how did TV shows do on DVD when it was a brand new format? Back before DVD when all we had was VHS, very few TV shows even made it to VHS as complete sets, most of the time it was "best of" tapes or random episodes from a series. It took DVD coming out to make owning an entire series on a show worth it to most people, the sheer number of tapes + the size of the tapes + the need to rewind made it unattractive in the VHS days. Some people need to think back to then and be grateful they even have the options they have today.
Firefly is the only TV series I own on Blu ray. I've rented a couple of seasons of LOST on Blu ray and they look amazing but with a show based on suspense it just wouldn't bring me back for multiple viewings. To me Firefly is like 13 mini comedy movies. I'm on at least my 9th viewing of that series. Can't think of any other series I'd buy on Blu-ray. BSG was an awesome series but again based on suspense.
I don't buy DVD anymore. If it does not get released on Blu-Ray, I don't buy. If it is on Blu-Ray, I will buy as long as the price is not outrageous like the price for Battlestar Galactica on Blu-Ray is.
For me to buy blu-ray seasons of shows like Hereos or something like that, the audio would have to be on par with what I get from a movie. The price for a seaons of hereos on blu-ray is way more than the DVD version and the audio is not much better. I know the video may be better but I have a mega DVD changer to hold all the DVDs. The only show I'd by on Blu-ray is Enterprise because the audio on the DVD is really good.
That's studid. As is I'm not going to pay $50-$60 per season for a tv series on BD, but I also don't buy TV shows on DVD's anymore so they're only hurting their sales by not offering a blu-ray version.
What they should be thinking about is lowering the prices instead, like this article says people are not buying because of the higher price premium on season box sets. Only, the price premium is MUCH higher, not just $10 per season!! If the price difference was only $10 it wouldn't be a problem! Example I could've gotten Prison Break Season 4 on DVD for $15 on BF, had there been a blu-ray version for $20-$25 I would've bought it! As is, I didn't buy it at all since it's not even available on blu-ray.
Offering Blu-Ray releases in the middle of a series can't be helping. For instance I might have been interested in Nip/Tuck if it was season 1 on Blu-Ray, but why would I start with season 4 if there's no telling that they'll ever release the prior seasons in BD format? The same goes for How I Met Your Mother, I absolutely LOVE that show, and would have picked up a BD release in a heartbeat if it was the first season, but they jump right to the current release despite the entire series being made in High Def. An exception would be The Simpsons, since the show only went HD recently, so it would make sense to not offer the prior seasons in HD.
Exactly I ain't buying any TV sets until the studios grow up, TV sets are hugely popular, but I'm not gonna pay like £50 for 1 season of Heroes in the UK, I will however pay £35 for it on Amazon.
Brings me to another point why release Prison Break Season 1 on blu-ray in the US, skip it in the UK, then skip to Season 3 blu-ray ignoring Season 2 in all major markets, and then skip Season 4 in all major markets, but make "Prison Break: The Final Break" in the US only?? It's crazy.
24 Season 7 woo-hoo!! I have waited since the PS3 launch day or blu-ray's launch for 24 Season 1 onwards, yet we get Season 7, because it's effectively the first Satellite HD season, I watched it on Sky1Hd in 1080i broadcast, now it's in Blu-ray. Not paying £59.99 ($97.78 in today's exchange rate) for 1 season. It's so stupid and they need to seriously make a 2010 New Year's Resolution- start whoring the TV box sets out, because I have not bought any 24 box set on DVD or Blu-ray until the end of the series so I can see if there will be Seasons 1-8 in Blu-ray I can hope, but it's not looking good.
On the point of box sets, why are Song/MGM faffing around with the James Bond movies, just get all 22 in a massive effing box set and I will pay upto £300 for it.
The reason I haven't bit one more TV shows on Blu is that unlike something like Rome, where it's all released, why am I going to buy a mid season like 4 or 5 (which I have admittedly at the start of everything being released) and then not get the previous and latter seasons. There is a market out there, but people are waiting to get it all and people will buy them as they can afford them. No damages season 2? No more Nip/Tuck? Are you kidding? I love Weeds on blu ray, Rome especially, Battlestar Gallactica. I would love Friends, Sex and the City, Frasier.... Although I see why high action shows like Battlestar, and ST, and even Period Drama shows like Rome, Lark Rise to Candleford and The Tudors are more popular. The sets, the costumes, the makeup, the special effects, Location shoots, they do wow on Blu-ray more so that a sitcom. I still want them though!