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Universal Wants Format War to Continue

Posted August 9, 2007 08:05 AM by Josh Dreuth

Blu-ray DiscSpeaking exclusively with HiHD's Scott Hettrick, Universal president Craig Kornblau admitted that his studio is in favor of the format war continuing, despite the negative effects it has on consumer adoption. While its hard to argue that this war has driven down hardware prices and increased quality of releases much faster than if there was only a single format, consumers have mostly stayed away from buying either until a victor can be decided. Kornblau now believes that HD DVD's existence is so fragile, that if Universal were to decide to go neutral and start releasing on Blu-ray, HD DVD would cease to exist. In fact, they are so dedicated to HD DVD, that Universal has walked away from additional financial incentives to release Blu-ray content, besides the additional revenue they would make by releasing on the more consumer adopted format. There is hope, however, that this war could soon be over. Kornblau admits that once players reach $200, consumers will begin making their decisions about which format to adopt, and that is when Universal will decide who to support. As we march towards the forth quarter, it is very realistic that Toshiba will slash the price of their players for a third time this year (in yet another act of desperation), paving way for a $200 player. If that happens, there is no reason Universal couldn't monitor the holiday sales and announce Blu-ray releases at CES 2008.


Source: Hollywood in Hi-Def | Permalink | United States [Country settings]

News comments (87 comments)



ground chuck
  Aug 09, 2007
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poor craig, doesn't know when to throw in the towel and stop the bleeding to make some money. maybe universal board members have private investments in hd-dud, thus keeping the war alive. so members i implore you to spread the word of blu and let's go for the kill.

E-Dogg
  Aug 09, 2007
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Craig does not sound like the most intelligent person in the business, but it's his prerogative
to support whom he chooses. By the end of the year he'll see the light and start to support Blu-Ray.
Crackbone
  Aug 09, 2007
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Unreal. Here's to hoping that HD DVD gets smacked upside it's head this Christmas and ends this damn thing.

Coltboy
  Aug 09, 2007
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Toshiba must have shelled out a lot more money than blu-ray for Universal to stay on the HD-DVD side. lol 1 million dollars.........sorry........................ 100 Billion Dollars!

erowe83
  Aug 09, 2007
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If toshiba cut prices to $199, this would really hurt blu-ray. Uneducated People are dumb and will see a $200 hd player and jump all over it.
Crackbone
  Aug 09, 2007
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That's my point. They'll use people's lack of knowledge or ignorance. It's low. Right now, if I were an HD DVD supporter I'd feel so used. They already know who is going to win this war.

ReduxInflux
  Aug 09, 2007
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i'm sure one of those companies funneling money to universal is microsoft. because if blu-ray wins, ps3's become a whole lot more popular and xbox...well... (just one possibility)

regardless, this is crazy. good for the consumer? i dont think so. how about a little less confusion. the votes have been cast. get rid of the divide and unify the market. please...
lester73
  Aug 09, 2007
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Mr Kornblau should think of the people forking out for HD DVD. They're wasting their money. He may
be on more than 5 figures, bit his consumers are not. If he admits HD DVD is fragile, he's ripping
people off delaying the invitable.

Do the right thing and save some money and your dignity!!

JTK
  Aug 09, 2007
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Mind blowing stupidity.

Most people know that this format war's usefulness on any level has expired.

I take 300 as the most recent example to make my point. As nice as the sales figures are on that for both formats, or if you combine the totals, or whatever...the question people were asking was: What if there had been one solidified HD format in place and 300 had come out on that?

It's the kind of question that really should be getting asked a lot more.

Reading stuff like this really is dismaying. There really must either be some idiots working at Universal and/or they really have been paid off by MS somehow.

Just ridiculous.

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that1guystudios
  Aug 09, 2007  
zany6669
  Aug 09, 2007
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I was so enraged by this these comments and the cynical attitude they contained that I immediately sought out the contact section of the Universal Pictures website to voice my extreme displeasure. Anyone who wishes to do likewise can find their contact us form at the following link:
http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=9
mike_schultz
  Aug 09, 2007
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Although the format war frustrates me just as much as the next person, I have to agree that it has helped drive down the overall price of the players. Good ole' capitalistic competition. I do believe that HD-DVD is making a mistake on banking on the price point. What is contingent on High Definition DVD player sales? Well, if the consumer has a HDTV to hook it up to! Albeit HDTVs are becoming more and more popular in homes throughout the world, it is not a staple in "Joe Six Pack"'s home. The target market for the 200 buck player is "Joe Six Pack"- but he is not looking right now. Blu-Ray player's price is starting to hit the price point of what an average HDTV owner would pay. So these consumers like myself, looks and says "Hmmm, for 200 bucks I can get a handful of movies. But for 500, I get a better format and much more great movies- I am going with Blu-Ray". My point to this long and rambling post is that by the time Joe Six Pack has an HDTV player, the format war will have already been decided by the current HDTV users- the ones looking for quality and selection, which is Blu-Ray.
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  Aug 09, 2007  

IamNhobdy
  Aug 09, 2007
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I used to just not by Universal movies/tv shows because I'm all about the blu, but this statement
is gonna turn me into one of those anti-universal cats preaching boycott of all of their movies,
shows, etc.. We're not sheep, we're people who's money pays thier checks each week and it's
beyond stupid to piss us off and insult us.

On a cost note...we still have time enough to see BD players(at least temporarily for the holidays)
get their own price cut. So Toshiba/Universal can open their wounds and bleed more to get some
attention, but I doubt it'll do much to entice true A/V fanatics. They're target consumer is the
person who thinks that their(average) local best buy employee knows what proffesional A/V
engineers know.

Now let's all thank Universal for openly admitting(in not so many words) that they think we're
stupid enough to nurse a format that is not only on deaths door, but whose death is continuing to
be far from gracefull.

Sorry for the length/tone. This just agrivates my already short fuse.

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Ben
  Aug 09, 2007
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zany... thanks for the link. I think it is important for all Blu-ray supporters to make use of that webform and to let Universal know exactly how they feel.

CptGreedle
  Aug 09, 2007
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With the drop in prices of the PS3 and the Toshiba players, it is inevitable that the Blu-ray players will
also drop in price. I am sure that HD-DVD players will reach the $200 mark sooner, but it won't be
long until Blu-ray players also reach that point!
I think that this is actually a good thing. Even though I will still have to wait to see universal titles
until they are convinced the market is ready for them to adopt both, it is worth having the
competition to drive down the prices and the raise the quality... for now. But if they continues for
another full year then there really is a problem.
I think we will see the change happen sometime next summer.

bluflu
  Aug 09, 2007
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Sorry, Universal, I'm not buying an 8-track player just to watch your movies no matter how cheap. PS3 w/100+ BDs and counting.

ericede
  Aug 09, 2007
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Although I think player price will always account for something. I also believe that consumers are going to buy a player based on the available media. Sony biggest advantage is dedicated studio support. They need to get the player price down but I don't think it needs to match HD-DVD. Most of the people I've talked to had the same reaction to HD-DVD lowering it's price on players. They all said it smelled of desperation.

haushausman
  Aug 09, 2007
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They basically admit its a dead format and want to keep juicing whatever money they can so the loss it not catastrophic. Boycott of Universal for me begins now. And I suggest everyone send them something using that link above. I did already.

atdm71
  Aug 09, 2007
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Following the overwhelming response of Blu-ray sales of "300", tell me, please tell me, how does any exec at Universal stand in front of shareholders and rationalize all the obviously proportionately greater amount of money they're leaving on the table only releasing on a low volume format, and still keep their job?? Tell me!

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Electric_Haggis
  Aug 09, 2007  
Wolfie
  Aug 09, 2007
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This could spark the next "Die Hard" sequel and call it "Die, HD-DVD, Die", the story of John Mclean's efforts to protect HD-DVD from the intelligent comsumer and with the climax being the ultimate death of both the format and Mclean himself.

Wolfie

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Electric_Haggis
  Aug 09, 2007  

ericede
  Aug 09, 2007
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That comment makes no sense. You can't have dual format players and lower prices. Dual format players will always cost more since the technology has to be licensed from two seperate companies. Show me where in the history of media where two formats have thrived.
rvanscherpe
  Aug 09, 2007
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This is absolutely STUPID! Format-wars hurt everyone, from hardware manufacturer,media/content provider and customers. Everyone brings up the beta vs. vhs, which was horrible, but was there a DVD vs. ??? format war?? Nope! Because that was the only contender. Oh ok...there was DIVX but c'mon! Look at how successful the DVD format is today. There wasn't really any confusion except whether you could record on that media or not because people were used to both playing and recording tapes.

As far was arguing what format is superior, who cares. Apparently customers didn't back in the lat 70's early 80's because beta didn't win. Just pick a format and we'll, customers, follow. We're lemmings for cryin' out loud!

The mentality that a content or hardware provider doesn't want to pick sides is ludicrous. Just pick it already! I thought these guys wanted to make money.

Mr. Hettrick, you're a dumb ass! Warner Bro.s you're a dumb ass! All of the studios that are waffeling between the two formats are dumb-asses and you're just going to piss of the customers for potentially buying into a dead format.

I thought humans were supposed to be the smartest on the planet. I thought we take what we've done in the past and learn from it. Obviously not.

Dumb asses!

Y3k Bug
  Aug 09, 2007
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How do we get this story out to the mainstream media? Your average fence-sitting consumer might be interested to know that a studio is intentionally prolonging a dead format in order to cash in.
lester73
  Aug 09, 2007
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I for one am doubling my efforts. I have purchased 14 blu ray titles in the last week, and today just
to spite Universal I'm going out and getting more.

I urge anyone who can afford it, go out today and buy at least one title and stick to Mr Kornblau!!

ericede
  Aug 09, 2007
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If you read the entire article at:
http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/blog_detail.php?id=107
You will get a better since of Universal's impact on the "war". They have very few blockbuster titles to compete with Fox, Disney and Sony.
HD-DVD holdouts and Blu-Ray Fans are passionate for the same reason.... $ investment. Nobody wants to amit they threw their money away.
Yeah! Thats right! I called them holdouts
I bought Blu-Ray after doing a google search for the words "blu-ray sales". I never once found an article that was negative towards the format's outlook. So I ran to Circuit City and purchased a BDP-S300 for $474 (had a coupon).

Dell sells the S300 for $448.52
Here is a link:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A1231549&cs=19&c=us&l=en
sc7
  Aug 09, 2007
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Hopefully General Electric's shareholders, and CEO, will push him to make the switch (seeing as they
own 80% of
universal).
lkingston
  Aug 09, 2007  
lkingston
  Aug 09, 2007  
Jodi
  Aug 09, 2007
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Universal......what a bunch of fu**ing idiots!!
I'm absolutely shocked that these people can actually hold onto their jobs after spewing such
ridiculous rhetoric!
Such vile comments by Universal have only emboldened my siding with Blu-Ray.
Let's pray that the uneducated and the stupid (which there are a hell of a lot of them out there)
don't get suckered in to the false "virtues" of HD-DUD. Remember folks, in the land of DUD there
are not very many big blockbuster films out in that smelly pasture. If people would just see the
(Blu) light and bask in it's VAST glow of big blockbuster titles and superior technology, this war
would be over and Blu would win the day.

Jodi

ericede
  Aug 09, 2007
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New writable media formats always starts out expensive and unreliable. Writable media will have little impact for quite some time. In the beginning it's always considered a luxury. Especially when other/cheaper/supported formats still exsist.

If you're really itching to make HD home movies try a Hitatchi Blu-Ray camcorder.
http://gagsik.blogspot.com/2007/08/hitachi-blu-ray-camcorder.html

I'm not sure what "small scale video content producer" actually means. Sounds like a title I could give myself for using my cellphone to create videos. I'm not sure the title gives weight to your aurgument.

Mr. Joshua
  Aug 09, 2007
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Here is the big picture for Kornblau: He is president of Universal. I'm sure he has a contract with Universal as most company presidents do with the company they steer. I'm betting he has a sweet golden parachute that if he is fired, he will get millions in severance pay per his contract. Then he is free to go on to the next company, maybe a blu-ray supporter company. Something to think about. Damn, I should be president of Universal. I want to get fired and become a millionaire.

GSX600F
  Aug 09, 2007
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i read out of this interview, universal is going neutral 2008.
Crackbone
  Aug 09, 2007
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^^^^ you got it, Universal, neutral, 2008.

dialog_gvf
  Aug 09, 2007
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I don't think people jump at $200 movie disc players without checking the movie availability. And if they do, and they buy from a 30-day return policy store, what happens when they go to buy movies?

GSX600F
  Aug 09, 2007
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well it seems universal knows HD DVD is going to lose in time, they just wait till the prices drops for consumer, then neutral.

kaliraver
  Aug 09, 2007
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To me its obvious that Universal & Kornblau know that Blu-Ray will be the victor in this format war. All they are doing now is holding back the mass adoption of a single HD format. Kornblau's comments are ridiculous and should get him fired for basically telling everyone that they'll be neutral by 2008. I feel sorry for those people that don't know better and are going to be suckered into a dead format. The other thing Universal is doing is people are going to be pissed when HD-DVD dies that they might now want to spend movie to replace that and now have to buy a Blu-Ray player to player future HD movies at home. Then they might become complacent and just go back to DVD's. Their goal I think at this point is definitely try to make as much money before they abandon that format so they can cut their loses. Thank god I never feel for that HD-DVD hype. I have been boycotting Universal since I bought Blu-Ray and haven't bought any DVDs from them nor seen any movies from their studio in the theaters.
JAG1977
  Aug 09, 2007
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They'll be neutral in 2008, they're putting on a brave face so sales don't crash this holiday season.

You can read 'em like a book!

haushausman
  Aug 09, 2007
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Your a wise man JAG1977... I think you just hit it on the head

kaliraver
  Aug 09, 2007
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I guess this thread crashed AVM$ forum because right now it is offline. Maybe the Mods had to delete too many "Universal is going to surrender next year" threads, lol.
ikbradley
  Aug 09, 2007
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If you want Universal to go neutral, here is an easy solution: Buy GE stock and then attend the next shareholder meeting and bring up the entire issue of Universal failing to capitalize with the leading format.

You can also bombard the invester relations department:
http://www.ge.com/investors/investor_contacts.html


NBC Universal has been performing so poorly that even the sale of the enterprise is not advised until some recovery is achieved (little has changed since this was published):
http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/11/news/companies/ge_nbc/index.htm

Even though GE is very large, it relies on 10% revenue from an underperforming subsidiary and pointing this out continuously (as an invester) is probably more effective than complaining to Universal.

rwmega
  Aug 09, 2007
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This has got to be a joke! Who would make such an unintelligent business decision. I'm refusing to purchase Hot Fuzz or any other DVDs for that matter until it comes out on Blu-Ray. I also wrote to Universal a few weeks ago about their refusal to support Blu-ray. No response was ever sent back.

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Canada
  Aug 09, 2007
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Toshiba seems to have this thing about the $200 price point even when HD DVD gets that low they will still loose. Blu Ray Exclusive The Bond movies, Spiderman movies, Pirates movies, Die Hard movies, Alien movies, Cars, The Rock, and others to neumerous to mention. All the releases I listed have PCM or DTS Master Audio.

What does HD DVD have The Bourne Movies and Jurrasic Park with sub par audio I might add. The 2 Bourne fims have Dolby Digital Plus that's it, and Jurrasic Park will probably be the same both Universal. Is there any one else who thinks they should change there name.

atdm71
  Aug 09, 2007
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ikbradley -- you get it. that's precisely the route to take...
bjnyzio
  Aug 09, 2007
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Universal is dead to me now. They are helping to screw people who might buy into HD-DVD just because of their movies. Horrible way to make money. They should just give up on high-def discs all together, I won't buy any when they finally make it to Blu-ray. $@%& 'em!

DrinkMore
  Aug 09, 2007
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Add me to the list of people who are upset with Universal. To echo the comments here, no person in power would make such a blatant and stupid move - unless that person works for Universal. Now, I have seen it all.

No Universal movies until they go full Blu or Neutral. Then, I will see how their quality is before I buy.
GasCat
  Aug 09, 2007
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Universal and his own rep are on the line. Let them both crash and burn. No problem. We still have the UNI-HD channel.

jcdDigix
  Aug 09, 2007
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If I started believing in HDDuDs and later jumped in their bandwagon and seing what's going on right now I'd Sue Them. This is pure disregard to the poor HDDuD adopters. They are being fooled by the likes of Craig Kornblau.
I was right from the beginning siding with the Tru Blu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From now on (I used to rent Universal DVDs @ BlockBuster) NO MORE UNIV. MOVIES until they adopt Blu-ray. The boycott has just started. IMO every Blu-ray adopter should think about that.

patowmack
  Aug 09, 2007
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Simply amazing... the position of Universal to back HD DVD exclusively and yet desire the format war to continue is evidence of their direct denial that Blu-ray has the player market share. Admitting that producing any of their products for Blu-ray would mean the demise of HD DVD is quite telling. Fortunately, many of the movies I want aren't produced by Universal.

ericede
  Aug 09, 2007
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Are you kidding!? This war will be over the instant BD owners can't buy a HD version of Evan almighty!!!

frank_t
  Aug 09, 2007
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Must be one hell of a bribe taking place... Oh well. I'd not care so much if a certain other studio would start releasing titles again. Perhaps Uni is waiting to see just how low Tosh will go this holiday season. I'm sure the final card they have to play is the $199 HD-DVD player. Would love to see Sony do a temp price reduction on their S300 to match Tosh. Funny tho how the PS3 is helping to establish BluRay while killing the Sony "playstation" video game brand.

jcdDigix
  Aug 09, 2007
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The HD-DVD add-on for MS XBox 360 is already in that price range. Still, look what's going on out there. People are buying more & more Blu-ray movies!

Xerious
  Aug 09, 2007
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easy to understand this equation: universal = nbc = microsoft + toshiba = hd-dvd

Xerious
  Aug 09, 2007
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yes, the SlugBox 180 has an add on, but mind you, those don't count, according to the HD-DUD Promo Group... you need an CrapBox to use it anyway, unless you want to use it on your puter...
oldmike
  Aug 09, 2007
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this just upsets me as i know that many will buy the $200 players do to lieing sales men and just not knowing better. then buy loseing all that cash they will just go to downloading movies
rwduke
  Aug 09, 2007
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This is just another desparate, last-ditch effort to prop up a dying format. Universal shamelessly admits in the article that they are being paid off.

I guess Universal is doing so poorly that they now need bribes to stay profitable. Pretty pathetic.

I'm sure they are under contract to be HD-DVD exclusive through 2007. Look for neutrality from Universal at CES 2008. Not that they could legally admit that right now. They wouldn't want to lose their hush money.
lester73
  Aug 09, 2007
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Looking through my vast dvd collection, I'm surprised at how little is Universal. It's mostly Warner,
Fox, Columbia, Disney and MGM.

So I'm confident that blu ray will win in the end as most of the titles I will replace will be blu ray
anyway
saxwork
  Aug 09, 2007
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Ok folks... Here is the top 10 grossing Universal films of all time from boxofficemojo.com

1. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (1982) - Spielberg (Director/Producer)
2. Jurassic Park (1993) - Spielberg (Director/Producer)
3. Meet the Fockers (2004)
4. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)
5. Jaws (1975) - Spielberg (Director/Producer)
6. Bruce Almighty (2003)
7. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) - Spielberg (Director/Producer)
8. King Kong (2005)
9. Back to the Future (1985) - Spielberg (Executive Producer)
10. The Mummy Returns (2001)

Looks like a lot of pro-blu Spielberg to me. I can rent the others on DVD. Any thoughts?

Manco
  Aug 09, 2007
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Let me restate the article: "We got behind the wrong format from the get go. We've conceded victory to Blu-ray. We'll be releasing on Blu-ray by mid-2008 at the latest. We going to hang in there a bit more so we don't look so stupid".

Just more good news for HD-DVD!

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darkpoet25
  Aug 09, 2007
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I cannot believe that this jackass wants to continue the format war. Is his head that far up his ass? Must hurt when he and Ken Graffeo sit down, what with the persistent head aches.

Excalibur-king
  Aug 09, 2007
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It wont continue much longer, h-dvd is dead and buried.

Zixxer
  Aug 10, 2007
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Just the boost hd formats need! (sarcasm)

squirrelprophet
  Aug 10, 2007
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Universal really hasn't released anything in recent months that's really worth having on DVD let alone in an HD format, so to be honest, it doesn't really matter for now. Thre are some great past releases, but wasn't Universal the company that had some weird actions when it came to releasing DVD's and VHS'?

Vegeta9991
  Aug 10, 2007
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Toshiba must give some good !@#$%... lol just kidding but it does make you wonder why a huge company would stick to a dieing format and even admitting if they went neutral it would die... I hope that since 300 sales were so much higher on blue that Warner will go blue exclusive killing HD-DVD regardless of Universals cheap attemps to mess up the HD market.
hitechiowa
  Aug 10, 2007
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Fuck that guy and Universal, in the end they will feel like dumbasses when bluray wins the format war! long live the blu

jayd
  Aug 10, 2007
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This guy sounds like a cock ass, "oh yeah, we know HD-DVD is dead, but lets squeeze as much money as possible out of the consumer, and when it dies, we will then squeeze it out of the same gullable git who already bought our expensive coffee coasters, when he replaces it with Blu-ray". This guy should be given the chop a.s.a.p. Seriously, who goes and announces that on the net.
BLU_BOY02
  Aug 10, 2007
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what a tard! Wont make a decision till the players hit $200??? because it will tell them what the consumers want??? hello? It's been 8 months and Blu Ray is up 8-0. Do you really need 4 more months to figure it out?? Take your losses, support the Blu, and cash in for the Holidays. it's not that hard to figure out. Dummies.

haushausman
  Aug 10, 2007
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Too late for him to cash in on the holidays. It would take too much time to get the releases out by then. With the smell of death in the air, Kornblau is trying to get one last big payout with Christmas shoppers. If he even hinted at neutrality Blu-Ray would run away with the whole pie this X-Mas.

Dave
  Aug 11, 2007
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Just die already hd dvd...

aristotles
  Aug 11, 2007
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Sent the following feedback via the universal website for Canadian inquiries.

"Craig Kornblau recently said that he wanted to prolong the format war by staying exclusive to HD
DVD and even admitted the following:
1. without Universal exclusivity, HD DVD would colapse.
2. This format war is harming consumers and hindering consumer adoption of HD media.

Does this Mr. Kornblau seriously think other Consumer Electronics firms are going to be able to
compete with an intrenched Toshiba in the 200 dollar range and make a profit?

I like getting a good deal like the next guy but Mr. Kornblau is trying to force a Toshiba monopoly
by pushing competitors and competing formats out of the market through dumping.

Do consumers really want to have a monopoly where Toshiba could eventually raise the prices back
up or change the format unilaterally to cause a forced upgrade?

BD has the support of numerous CE's that are not only giving lip service but actually coming out
with their own BD players, recorders and camcorders.

Show me a non-Toshiba HD DVD standalone player on the market right now. There are none.

If Mr. Kornblau is really working in the best interests of Universal and consumers at large, he
should have Universal Studios go neutral and let the best format win. Give consumers the choice
they deserve and stop trying to make the decision for them."

U4K61
  Aug 12, 2007
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I have to admit, I am purchasing MORE blu-ray then I otherwise would have just to further the cause. It is kind of like giving it all for your home team. It is a real seat-of-your-pants thrilller.

Swearengen
  Aug 12, 2007
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Looks as if my comments on Hollywood in HiDef don't get approved, so I will be posting my comment for the article here, instead of "close to the source".

Universal wants format war to continue. Well, thats a way to put it. But I guess statements less inflated, wouldn't feel appropriate in anything but an unpartial environment.

So how come it's Universal, who's the big bad wolf? Because they support another format and they're the last stand in an otherwise all out Blu triumph? Like all other studios, Universal analyzed pros and cons with the two formats and chose HD-DVD. On paper Blu-ray is the technologial superior format, no doubt about that, but 600 HD releases into the format war, it has yet to be proven in the real world. Fact is, that both formats deliver the goods when it comes to audio and video. Any limitations can be tracked to inferior and inadequate groundwork on the behalf of a given studio. Period.

Both consortias use subsidizing as a mean to gain market shares. And both distort and manipulates statistics to be able to boast about their triumphs. Almost all statistic numbers are supported by percent calculations and not absolute numbers, since the later would be quite laughable, in the context of the hypothetical conclusions. The only fact remain, that 1% or less, of the potential consumer mass in the US, owns a HD player. In the rest of the world, this number is considerably less. What we got is an unfertilized market with a huge potential regarding sale and profit and it is way to soon to predict any unanimous winner, even though we have to listen to the weekly obituaries proclaimed, like this article does.

The Blu-ray release of 300 selling 65% compared to 35% of HD-DVD, has to be weighed against that HD releases a few days ago, reached its pinnacle milestone. Passing VHS in terms of sold items. Wow!

Yes, I would also like one format to prevail in the end, but it would be nice if consumers could chose according to information based on reason instead of spin.

Chess is a fine game. You can get check mate in an instant, but even with fewer pieces on the board, patience might be rewarded with a draw.

And in case of wondering. I'm the happy owner of both a HD-DVD and a Blu-ray player and I enjoy both.

Swearengen
  Aug 12, 2007
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Scott Hettrick, in his final statement, says:

'I guess those customers who are already choosing Blu-ray will have to live without hi-def versions of "Knocked Up," "Evan Almighty" and "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" for awhile.'

True. And HD-DVD owners will have to live without "Are we done yet?", "Perfect Stranger" and "Norbit".

Now what did those statements bring us of useful information?

Swearengen
  Aug 12, 2007
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And why shouldn't they be allowed to "hang on to" license fees and what differs, that Sony and partners tries to do the same with Blu-ray? It is called business and is a part of the free initiative and the western democratic societies. It seems to me, that Blu-ray also will do and say most anything, to make HD-DVD fail.

Both consortias got their strategies and they're playing their cards accordingly, hopefully according to the law.

Swearengen
  Aug 12, 2007
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"If Mr. Kornblau is really working in the best interests of Universal and consumers at large, he should have Universal Studios go neutral and let the best format win. Give consumers the choice they deserve and stop trying to make the decision for them."

Thats a great suggestion. And if the blu-ray exclusive parties, Fox, Disney, Sony and MGM does the same, then the consumers could really make their own choice.

view_it
  Aug 12, 2007
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hi HERE mindenki (everybody) so in (from) Europe this way will a bit to the END of this WAR.
More titles come at this fall on BluRay format !!! WITH LOCAL soundtrack !!!! - WHICH important for the local buyers! many true-HD prjections selling in the eSHOPS and searching more title in shops and online market - so waitn' the NEAR FUTURE ?! BLU(E) RAY OR HD-DVD in EU?!
Shark
  Aug 12, 2007
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To Swearengen, First off, I’m Canadian, so this is business bullshit won't fly with me. I have a problem when Corporations lie and cheat to make money. Universal has blatantly not revealed their bias to the public; instead, misleading everyone to believe that their choice to support HD DVD was based on quality and not because they don’t have much choice given their business interests. The HD camp constantly puts out misleading reports, (blogs) to confuse, and mislead consumers. Sony has done a reasonable job at being straight. They said blue ray is better, and it is. They said it will cost more, but will be worth the extra cost, and it is. HD camp says it will cost less, but when you compare there HD players against the blue ray players at the same quality level the difference is very little unless you take into consideration the cheep models which are also cheaply made, and the software which is really the biggest expense; in many cases cost more than the blu-ray discs......Can you tell me the last big brake through the HD camp made during this competition?............I can tell you several in the blu-ray camp: Everyone except Universal supports blu-ray for one…Target (2nd largest America retailer removes HD players from shelves and goes blu-ray exclusive….Blockbuster now rents blu-ray (exclusively), in 1700 of their US stores, the blu-ray version of 300 sold 163K of the 250K sold in the first week. Several private manufacturing plants including one in the US opened to compete in the blu-ray replication business. The adult film industry recently acquired blu-ray replication equipment which Sony said they will support…….That’s just to name a few….. Buy the way, Sony said the war is over and That Blu-Ray won........As far as I can tell, they did…………………. are you still not listening. Don’t let the size of your wallet interfere with your reading or hearing, Cheers

Swearengen
  Aug 12, 2007
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Cheers Shark. I'm not american either, but Danish, so I'm sitting on the sideline watching the very very slow adoptation of HD in Europe.

From what I can read in Scott Hettricks blog, Universal has been offered financial incentives from the Blu-ray disc manufacturers but "Universal was walking away from the table every time without any reasonable objection". Kornblau then states, that Universal is getting financial incentives to create exclusive HD DVD features. Now whatever incentives makes it for Universal, that is ultimately their decision to make. Maybe in the eyes of the Blu-ray manufacturerer, Universal acts "unreasonable", but I guess everyone would say that, when sitting on the other side of the table.

About lying and being straight, then Blu-ray has not been the latter anymore than HD-DVD. I've read several reports, analyzis and whatever from both consortias in the past 12 months, that essential are manipulation and spinning of information at hand. When salesfigures are as low as 1% of the total consumer mass in the US and Europe is trailing with only tens of thousands sold HD units, then absolutely nothing in this game is predicted, even if Universal is the only exclusive content provider for the HD-DVD camp. Universal has the right to pursue their business strategies even if the majorities of other menufacturers urge them not to. Both parties use subsidizing as a mean to get customers. Blu-ray do it with their disc manufacturing and Toshiba with their hardware. Still outside the borders of US, we customers do not benefit from this and the prices on a Blu-ray player here, is close to insane. Axelmusic, which is a huge HD/DVD online sale portal, track their sales in both formats and publish their figures weekly. This week it is:

BLU-RAY HD-DVD
Weekly 50.4% 49.6%
Monthly 51.8% 48.2%
Yearly 44.1% 55.9%

Releases 391 342

And no, I don't buy the statement, that Blu-ray is better. Other than having a larger capacity in terms of storage, the audiotracks and the video are just the same and HDi has till this moment, been a better tool for creating extras to HD-DVD than BD-J has been for Blu-ray. HD-DVD is also regionfree and every player has an ethernet jack for updating of firmware.

I bought a Toshiba XE1, 6 months ago. I just wanted to get on the HD wagon and Blu-ray was not an option in Europe, cause their hardware was twice the money than in the US and their releases inferior in quality at that time to what HD-DVD could provide. The Samsung 1000 did cost 2400$ when released here. In Denmark I do exactly what I'm doing here, supporting the format that's the least popular, which has been Blu-ray in Denmakr. My incentive is simple. 95% of all arguments I hear from one side against the other format, is not based on objectivity and reason and hence I support the formatwar, until the market has gained momentum, maturity and competition has driven prices down and quality up.

There is still reason in prolonging a formatwar and Universal have every right to pursue their strategy.

alphadec
  Aug 12, 2007
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Why is a great studio like Universal being run by some who is well..... not so cleaver!.....
Hope they start to understand that they are on titanic! and should get in the life boats.

Look forward to seeing them on Blu-ray.
Shark
  Aug 12, 2007
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Swearengen, I sympathise with you with regard to the high European prices, however, the reason prises are so high in Europe is the benefits you enjoy like free health care, free dentistry, drugs, ext. That being said the war here I'm sure from what your telling me is quiet different than the one in Europe. Personally I would trade your higher prices for all the benefits Europeans have, so remember that when you feel like complaining. If you only knew how much Drugs and Dentists cost here. With regard to which disc is better your greatly mistaken and completely undervaluing the extra storage space found on the blue ray discs, (An extra 10 GB on single layer, and 20 GB on dual layer), in a world where the amount of storage space is growing so rapidly, HD DVD is currently already pushing the limits of its technology. Where will that leave it in a very short time? Currently HD DVD blank discs cost the same as Blu Ray discs if not more, so why would anyone want to pay the same for 10 or 20 less GB of storage. Blu-Ray discs also come with a PCM 5.1 soundtrack and 4 or 5 Dolby 5.1 soundtracks in other languages like French, German, Italian, and Spanish. HD DVD will never have a PCM sound track as it takes a lot of storage space which HD DVD can't hold. Blu-ray Discs are also 1000 times more difficult to scratch because of the scratch resistant coating which is very important to collectors. Take a closer look at Blu-ray and you will be a Blu-ray owner, I'm sure of that. Cheers,
KAK
  Aug 13, 2007
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I have made my choice and Blu-ray is it. With regard to the prospect of a $200 HD-DVD player, I think consumers will still pay more for Blu-ray. They will do this for the same reason Sony is out selling its competetors in the LCD market. Sony's prices are higher but their product is noticeably better. I am also watching lots of movies these days but Universal is not on my list. They will figure that out sooner or later.

quexos
  Aug 14, 2007
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@swearengen:

Blu-ray is better and not only because of space capacity (which alone is a very strong argument)
look at the specifics here: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#hddvd

as for the sales, here is a weekly indication that is interesting:
http://www.dvdempire.com/Content/Features/hidef_wars.asp?view=1&userid=99365874584587

I would never want to buy HD-DVD's because i don't want to spend an entire generation with an inferior product, i DONT want to ever watch long movies like Lord of the rings or Gone with the wind CUT in half on two HD-DVD's cause they are stupidly not big enough to contain the entire movie on one disk.

I live in Europe and Yes here the new formats are horribly expensive so i'll wait, but i'll wait for blu-ray ONLY.

Cheers

w_tanoto
  Aug 14, 2007
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how about a petition to universal?

w_tanoto
  Aug 14, 2007
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I have sent a rather harsh comment to universal (I said I am disgusted and disturbed by annoying comment of Kornblau).
Actually in computer world, I see Hewlett-Packard's current position is just like universal. They supported HD DVD more than BD. Just recently, they release a desktop PC with dual BD/HD DVD (I imagine if LG did not make that dual drive, the'll stay as HD DVD supporter). Although they support HD DVD, they release their business laptop using BD (but who want to buy high-price, nultimedia featureless machine if we want it for use at home?). In UK, the pavilion range only has HD DVD as next-gen format. What I don't understand is that in UK, they have HD DVD-ROM drive, unlike toshiba's HD DVD-R which can burn HD DVD, which means the real use of that drive is for watching boring Universal Movies (I have largely ditched Universal since buying PS3) and some movies that mostly available on BD.

What did HP executive said (at HP's launch of Pavilion HDX)?
HD DVD is more consumer friendly. It seems that lie Universal, they receive some good deal of money from either toshiba or microsoft. Annoying. My e-mails are largely ignored (only 2/10 responded). I plan to buy new notebook, but I'll wait till a BD model of Pavilion HDX available, or if not, It's Sony VAIO AR series with BD.
korner2004
  Aug 22, 2007
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I must say I am utterly disgusted with Kornblau and his ironically-named company (Universal). I personally could not care less if HD-DUD wins or loses (even though it is excruciatingly obvious who the winner will be thanks to Kornblau), because Blu-Ray will always have a niche for PS3 users like me. But I can afford another player if Blu were to somehow miraculously fail. However, what about the blue collar workers who save up to get their family member a HD-DVD player this christmas, just to see that several months later, the player is utterly useless. Meanwhile, Universal KNEW this was coming and, rather than stop it, actually ENCOURAGE it! Anybody who has the power to end a war, acknowledges this power, and then consciously refuses to, is either evil, or a fool. Universal not only has the power to end this charade, but announces it publicly (thus acknowledging the power), and in the very same breath says they aren't going to end it (thus refusing)! So which is it Universal: Evil? Or Fool? I don't think either is going to help its already tarnished image. Consider me on the very, very long list of boycotters. Not just until you make the switch, but likely for the remainder of this movie generation. In the future, I would be simply delighted to look back and see that their choice here was the beginning of their end.


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