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Avatar Blu-ray Officially Announced

Posted March 16, 2010 04:19 AM by Juan Calonge

20th Century FoxAfter weeks of speculation and rumors, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment has officially announced Avatar on Blu-ray. As James Cameron himself revealed a month ago (see blu-ray.com, February 18), the release date has been set for Thursday, April 22 (Earth Day). In a first for a major theatrical release on Blu-ray, the studio will go Superbit on James Cameron's megablockbuster and release it without any special features of any sort, in order to maximize audio and video quality. A DVD will be included with the BD.

Avatar producer Jon Landau explained to the Los Angeles Times that they told Fox that "we wanted to do something really special and reach for the best presentation of any film in the history of the format." Landau adds, "Everything that is put on a disc takes up room – the menus, the extras, the trailers and studio promotions – and we got rid of all of that so we could give this movie the best picture and sound possible." Extra time and care have been devoted to this project, with the video compression sessions taking six weeks, as opposed to the usual two weeks for a typical theatrical release.

A multidisc "ultimate version" Blu-ray is planned for November. Details will be given during a press event in March 23, which will be attended by Landau and Cameron.

Regarding a 3D release, Fox sources again denied reports that it would come out later this year. The Digital Bits hazards a guess that it will probably come "in a third dip a year or two from now", once there is a market for 3D on Blu-ray.

Avatar release dates in other territories are:
  • Belgium: April 21
  • France: April 21
  • Netherlands: April 21
  • Spain: April 21
  • Brazil: April 22
  • Canada: April 22
  • China: April 22
  • Russia: April 22
  • Germany: April 23
  • Japan: April 23
  • Mexico: April 23
  • Switzerland: April 23
  • UK: April 26
  • Denmark: April 27
  • New Zealand: April 28
  • Norway: April 28
  • Sweden: April 28
  • Australia: April 29
  • Finland: April 30
  • Italy: May 6





Source: Los Angeles Times | Permalink | United States [Country settings]

News comments (135 comments)


BellesPrince
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Don't you hate it when the studio's try to pull the wool over our eyes and make out they're doing something special for us, when in fact, they're just being lazy. They could do a 'superbit' disc, and still give us a second disc of extras. But they know people will double dip on this, so they basically just see it as a way to screw over the fans.

Sithlord75
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Absolutely agree, i thought that was the whole point of 50GB disc so they could fit the film on with the best transfer and still have space free for extra's.

LOTR07
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Can you say MOOOOOOO!!!!!......milk that cash cow baby!

kkjbk
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm just waiting to see how much of the 50GB capacity they use, I will not be impressed if there's quite a bit of space left over for extras...

Although it seems our UK version will be coming with two discs - at least according to the pictures on Amazon and Play.com:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avatar-Steelbook-Lenticular-Artcards-Activist/dp/B002HEXVUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268728702&sr=8-1&tag=bluraycom-21

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/13858078/James-Cameron-Avatar-Steelbook-Online-Exclusive/Product.html

Although it does look like the second disc will just be a digital copy disc. Still at least we also get a 200 page book, art cards and T-shirt over here in the UK...

mishal
 - Mar 16, 2010

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What the point of getting this release without and extras whatsoever?

I don't think 50GB is only dedicated for the movie alone. What a lame release. The movie has been on my wish list for a very long time. I guess I have to wait until November to get the ultimate edition.

jdub
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I will technically do a double dip just kind of like I did at the theaters. Watched it local then went to Imax. This I will rent to see how good the pq and sq is then I will buy when they do they full edition. See double dip.

demiscy
 - Mar 16, 2010

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so they're going to triple dip on this..

Vanilla, Ultimate, 3D

Bluyoda
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I completely agree with BellesPrince, this is just a lame excuse to have people double dip. They could easily have a 2nd disc dedicated to supplements! I have never heard of such a ridiculous way to rip people off! Indiana Jones sort of did it, and so did Iron Man, but those losers are too greedy to do it in a similar way. What a sham!
They are certainly not going to see my money for this joke!

BellesPrince
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm actually getting a bit sick of hearing about Avatar, and hearing James Cameron going on about how amazing the film was.

It was an impressive film to experience, but the plot was paper thin, and it was basically a retread of Pocahontas and Dances with Wolves - both of which I actually prefer.

I think I've actually enjoyed all the other 3D films I've seen over the last few months more than Avatar though.

Bk_Tan
 - Mar 16, 2010

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The studio heads must think we're a bunch of idiots.
Maximize audio and video quality? 50GBs worth?
What's the use of the Blu-Ray disc then?
Might as well upgrade to a 100GB disc.
This is money-grabbing at it's finest by Fox and Cameron.
There is no excuse whatsoever either than the fact they know people will double dip for special features.
I say boycott the damn disc and teach them a lesson.

juha
 - Mar 16, 2010

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A tetra dip...!

Vanilla. No extras. Full price.

Ultimate Edition. Extras. Full price.

3D Edition. No extras. Full price.

3D Mother-of-all-Editions. Extras. Full Price.

And will be interesting to see what role Avatar's 12 minute extended cut, to be released later this year on 3D screens, will play on its home video release plan.

I sense 5 dips. LAME

DigitalGeek123
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Wow, glad I bought that region free dvd player when I did! D:

STARSCREAM
 - Mar 16, 2010

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HAHAHA, I'm with you guys, the studio is making it out like they are giving us a real treat with a "superbit" blu-ray version. LOL. All they are doing is wanting everyone to triple dip on this one. They will probably wait until their is nice market penetration with 3D blu-ray players and tv before releasing the 3D version.

Turnda643
 - Mar 16, 2010

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AHHHRIIIITE!!! Avatar comes to Blu in November!!! Can't wait to get it right before the holidays!!

And yes, I mean November NOT April!! I refuse to recognize that bare bones rip-off as an actual release.

jacobb1313
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I completely agree with everyone here. I call shenanigans on "we got rid of all of that so we could give this movie the best picture and sound possible". That's what extra discs are for.

Steps to Bleed Dead Horses Dry, or: Take Advantage of Everyone and Make More Money Than a Small Country Under Dictatorship:
1) Titanic Theatrical release, 2D
2) Avatar in theaters, 3D and 2D
3) Release Stripped Avatar Blu-Ray
4) Rerelease Avatar in 3D in Theaters after summer blockbuster glut, with added footage
5) Rerelease Blu-Ray with features before Holiday Season
6) Rerelease 3D Blu-Ray with or without added footage
7) Rerelease Titanic in 3D, theatrical
8) Ancillary Blu-Ray and Home Video releases of 3D and 2D versions of both films, with or without extra footage.
9) Sequels to Avatar and all subsequent home video packages.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/
film/news/e3i474fda2d02866bfd83562ae66c9a5e91

All those disposable 3D glasses aren't saving the planet any faster, Jim. Green message = shenanigans.

Got2LoveGadgets
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Umm no thanks

lgans316
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Maximize AV quality is a good move but no show of extras is absolutely insane. I don't get this at all greedy Cameron / FOX. Why can't the extras be featured in a separate BD?

You guys made billions of $$$ and yet you can't do any special features. WTF????

Robert De Niro
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Why do people care so much about extras?? I never even watch them. I just buy the movie for the MOVIE.

RebelPrince1986
 - Mar 16, 2010

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It's kind of funny how everyone is acting like they want the Blu-ray for the special features. Isn't the point of a home video release so you can have the FILM itself ? They are called BONUS features for a reason. I mean, sure it would be cool to see some of the stuff that went into making the film, but when it comes down to it, I'm going to be buying the Avatar Blu-ray for Avatar, not for the Making of Avatar.

atexp80
 - Mar 16, 2010

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^ Perhaps because some people want a release that provides them with a quality release of the film and extensive features on how they did it. After all, James Cameron has been going on for years how the technology is so innovative and it's a landmark film. For a film so unique it SHOULD have comprehensive quality features that reflect the status of the film.

In this case, rental for me. I will hand over my cash when a version which actually seems worth the money comes out. I am very specific when it comes to PQ and AQ, but that alone will not be enough to make me purchase this title. They're certainly creating something unique - the barest of bare bones editions ever. Definitely a title to celebrate!

Jim, old buddy - you had better hope that the transfer does not have a single hint of DNR, EE or banding anywhere or by God will you feel the wrath of the videophiles and audiophiles - the very people you are trying to appeal to!

Sidewinder
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I don't care about extras at all, so if this Superbit approach is true, I'm more than happy with the April release!

McCheese65
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I don't watch the extras either. This is perfect for me.

DrrnHarr
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I hardly ever watch extras anyway...unless it's a movie I am really interested in, of which this is not one.

ascendedcobra
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I agree not going to watch extras, but I may wait for 3D.

Scorxpion
 - Mar 16, 2010

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YES A SUPERBIT Blu-Ray release have never before released ,yes i am all over it.Extras is useless for me

BluBrown
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I wouldn't be too surprised if the ultimate edition in November doesn't contain the super-bit version of the film just so there is incentive to buy both versions. While I understand the problems with double dipping, I feel that certain titles are worth it to me....Avatar is one of them. I have no problem spending $20 in April so I can watch it for 6-7 months before the Ultimate Edition comes out. I can always sell it come November if I no longer need it.

NYorker
 - Mar 16, 2010

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This is what's known as the "BS" edition...

DigVid
 - Mar 16, 2010

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It's a shame that this version will probably be the "cropped" 2.35 widescreen version and not the more open (less heads getting lopped) 1.78 (16:9 like our TVs) version. Unfortunately, in the case of this movie (and some of the Harry Potter films) 16:9 AR would actually show more relavant info, than a be a "director's intent" thing. After all 3D was Cameron's main goal here and it is obvious to see from trailers (including the one above) that framing is very cramped in the wider 2.35 "cropping". Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait for the 3D version and hope they don't go out of their way to crop it just for the "cool" effect. I'm for OAR all the way. It's just in this case I think we would have been served better it they had given us the more open 3D AR. It was possible...

Cap Nord
 - Mar 16, 2010

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– and we got rid of all of that so we could give this movie the best picture and sound possible."

What a crock of shit!

Shanester
 - Mar 16, 2010

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As Austin Powers would say: Yeah Baby!!! Yeah!!!!

PS I don't want to hear anybody complaining about double dipping since the studio is giving us 6 months notice. It's up to you which version you buy....or both like me

RIKANA
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm liking the Multi-disc edition:3

Looks like another multi-buy for me as well:)

RI

luigionlsd
 - Mar 16, 2010

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If the PQ/AQ is truly "maximized" for this release, then I'm perfectly happy with no extras. Knowing Fox, it's too bad we couldn't get a "BD only" release without the DVD, because I'm sure it's going to cost $28+ even on Amazon!

gymclothes412
 - Mar 16, 2010

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If James Cameron really cared about the environment, he would have insisted that Fox release fewer versions of this film so as not to add more unnecessary waste to the landfills.

Mike2060
 - Mar 16, 2010

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They are telling you that there will be 3 versions total, so I don't know why you are pissed. It's not like they are releasing one version then secretly releasing another one 2 months later.

And maybe you people should do the damn math instead of just saying that 50GB is enough for special features and the main feature. The movie is 160 minutes. The BD is 50GB. 50GB (50,000MB)/160min (9600s) = 5.2MB/s = 41.66Mb/s. This is just the video. So 40Mb/s is the max on BD and they have to include the audio which is around 4Mb/s. This will guarantee a very high bitrate for the video and audio so I am all for it.

When they say a DVD will be included with the Blu-ray is that a DVD with Avatar on it or special features? I'm thinking the movie.

pixarforlife
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm for one in no need of 3D Home Entertainment, unless if it becomes mainstream. I'm fine with HD setup. Will buy this if possible.

bypass
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Day one purchase for me, and I'm sure many others will cave in -- despite the likelihood of the studio invoking a triple dip to infinity. From a business standpoint, wouldn't you guys do the same? I would, because it's logical.

Harlock415
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Well I hope it has a pretty low price point if they are not going for extras other than a DVD copy.

agoofykindasuperman
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Since this movie wasn't the best in my books, I'm not going to need November's extra-laden disc. To see what? What we already know about how the movie was made, a bunch of green screens and people dressed in leotards hooked up to computers acting the same parts that you've seen already in the movie? I'll just stick with April's Steelbook (you know there'll be one) release and be done with it.

_ck
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that they're not putting any extra features on the film disc, I can't imagine anyone not wanting this to be presented with the best video/sound quality possible. But this could've just as well been a 2-disc Blu-ray release with a "superbit" film disc and another disc with just bonus material. That would've still been true to all the things they talk about in press release, and it wouldn't have been the obviously greedy thing to do.

It's nice that they give us the heads up that there will be a fully featured release down the line, but you can imagine there'll be a lot of people who aren't geeks that read Blu-ray websites and are in the know who will buy it when it comes out and then be disappointed (and possibly double dip) when the next release comes out.

meyerste
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Day one purchase for me.

denger76
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I agree with De Niro I rarely watch the extras - I want the movie in the best possible P/Q & A/Q!!! Out of my 140 BRD's I don't have that many years of my life that I want to spend watching stuff I don't care about - and for me it actually takes away from the movie experience sometimes!

Kris Gurung
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'll wait for the November "ultimate version" release. No hurry.

lokesc
 - Mar 16, 2010

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i gotta say cameron & landau are both pretty much foxes. i guess they just wanna cash in the momentum now without any extra n rerelease it with extras and later with 3d without extra then...release it 3d with extras...n finally a director cut...perhaps later a redux release or what not. look at T2, the amount of times it was fried with the same oil....but different spices.

i certainly reccomend not to buy this n wait for probably a year or 2 when this bunch of capitalism hunchos get their heads right. if they think they need to save the best for last, i hope their last will not be as good when the time comes. jez look at the HD live action cameras that they use to do reference edits. i believe they are tonnes of features that they can put in. it's sad that we heard JC talk about global issues, human greed, etc but he himself has succumb to all the sins that a human can make. after all we r all human...u r forgiven.

bookcase
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I thoroughly enjoyed Avatar, but I don't think the movie was good enough to buy twice, so I'll hold off until November. Unlike Lord of the Rings, at least we know the special edition will be coming out later the same year.

Russell22
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Yeah will pick this up for sure,not bothered about the extras laden version in Nov. I find the extras on most new films quite boring to be honest. If i see another FX guy sitting next to a computer telling us how they did a shot i'm gonna shoot myself ! i might get the 3D version down the road but that will be some way off.

hc666
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Overrated movie and a cash grab release knowing it will be released many times over.

No thanks.

jimmybobo
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I agree with denger76

dmarvin
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Without extras, rental only. I need to see how it plays a second time for me anyway before I make decisions about double dips anyway.

Cplhicks
 - Mar 16, 2010

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The science of "How can we screw the customer and take their money." There's no reason they couldn't do that with disc 1 and have features on disc 2. They just want to get the people who love this movie to buy it several times, because they know they will. I, however, will not.

Kinslayer
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I couldn't care less about the extra's..usually never bother watching them so I am all this if they really plan on using all of the 50 GB to get the best Quality possible.

I do agree though that they are pretty greedy by not including an extra Blu even if they just throw some extras together.

stubiedoo
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Talk about insulting your intelligence.

bboisvert
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I can wait until November... no biggie. (shrug)

SillyMammo
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. It's not like Cameron is coming directly to your house and forcing you to buy the bare-bones copy in April. The studio has been very upfront about having 2 versions being released this year. Wait until November for the special edition if want.

miked924
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Pass, waiting until to November to buy

tru blu
 - Mar 16, 2010

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So torn. I want this real bad, but will wait for the multi disc "Ultimate Edition"

Rob555
 - Mar 16, 2010

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LADIES & GENTLEMEN.... You are not in Kansas any more Foxs and Cameron is going to take your cash and buy jujube BEANS. SUPERBIT Ha.Is that not a Trade Mark of Sony. Will this Version Be DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO 7.1 NO and will the video master be the same as the version coming in November.I can bet it will be the same quality.What a Crock Don;t get me Wrong I Loved Avartar and Think it will Change the way movies are made and presented.But to lie say that this version being released in April will be SUPERBIT this and audio will be the best I say Bull. Its best to say we Don't have the time to Release a version with all the extras so here is a taste till then. and offer some kind of rebate to those who purchased the first one.... PS I do watch all the Extras on the disc when the studios put them on the Disc..

Croweyes1121
 - Mar 16, 2010

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From Digital Bits: "But don't expect a movie-only price for round one. The SRP for this first version will reportedly be $29.98 for the DVD and $39.99 for Blu-ray + DVD Combo."

DANG! Forget you, Fox! I might have bitten for a cheap enough SRP, but no freakin' way. No clue what they're smoking...$39.99???? Not a chance.

Dr. Skill
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Sounds like this is going to be the best quality blu-ray ever released and that's all I care about. Extras are for sissies.

Bluyoda
 - Mar 16, 2010

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tlsivart
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'd buy a barebones release of this if it were a $9.99 release, but if I'm gonna BUY a movie like this, I'm going to want to watch HD special features documenting the special effects at least.

SellmeyourDVD
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Avatar? What is Avatar?

Hale-Bopp
 - Mar 16, 2010

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So much for 3-D blu-ray taking off then? I mean, shouldn't this film be one of the flagships of the 3-D movement? I'm confused by decisions like this, but whatever. I probably won't own any 3-D equipment myself for another 2 years or so. I'll wait on this movie until then.

El_Burro
 - Mar 16, 2010

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thanks to avmagazine.it , they're trying to bring dts hd italian track into these edition of Avatar.
im sharing these because we all know that Fox is only using dts hd for english audio track, so folks just move and get in touch with Fox pretending audio Hd for yours language too!

Kaminari
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Yeah, get rid of the bloody menus and reclaim a whopping 5 MB of BD space!

TauHeel05
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I hope it's ~$20 and not the typical fox price of $28.

aimforsilence
 - Mar 16, 2010

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This reminds me of Watchmen. They release it on Blu-Ray but at the same time say theirs an ultimate edition in a few months?!

Celerony
 - Mar 16, 2010

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For me they put on the Italian track in mono!
Why do you want high-quality compression for a track that has already been messed up?

Do you hear it already?
''Non sei più in Kansas''. whahahaha...

AaronSCH
 - Mar 16, 2010

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If you buy this version, you are simply a fool. I don't even think they will wait a full year for another release—can anyone say "Watchmen?" Someone posted a thread at another website asking how long it would take for a studio to use the "SUPERBIT" marketing approach. There is supposed to be plenty of room on a BD to accommodate the film and a ton of supplements—and if not, what about a second Blu-ray with all the extras instead of a worthless DVD version? A feature packed release will arrive by Christmas and you'll be able to buy one of these used for less than $10... If it wasn't for 3-D this picture would have been less than mediocre. For once, the Academy Awards got it right. There is nothing memorable about "Avatar" beyond its technical and ballooning box office achievements. I'll pass.

fettastic
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Here's something to chew on....Fox didn't actually say it would be a 50GB disc. So while it may be true that the disc is "maximized", it's possible that it's only a 25GB disc!

It's just STUPID not to put the 3D version out this year. Talk about missing a MASSIVE opportunity to get 3D into homes! Instead they want to put the cart before the horse and have people buy 3D equipment with no frakkin' 3D to run on it!

What happened to that story about Panasonic and Samsung in a bidding war for Avatar 3D to come bundled with their 3DTVs? Is that for next year? Is Fox maybe saying that you won't be able to buy Avatar 3D this year....except for the special bundled edition coming with one of those TVs? That could explain why Cameron is so sure it's coming out this year and the studio is so sure it isn't, because they are talking about 2 different things.

Cenobite
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Either you buy it or you don’t…plain and simple, right?.....right!

Dicmatic
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Being that I don't ever watch special features, I am glad to hear that they are putting the time and effort to give us the best possible quality. That's what I care about the most and that's what blu ray needs to be about:)

bajor27
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Immediately after I finished atching the movie in theatres, I wanted to turn on the bonus features. Unfortunately, the theatre, much like this first release won't have any bonus features. Man. Now I have to wait until November to own Avatar.

No double dip for me - until I upgrade to 3D that is :P

Memnoch71
 - Mar 16, 2010

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It'll be a rental for me. Everyone I know who's gone to see it has said the same thing, beautiful to look at, but not much of a story to go with it. I'll rent it first, then if I think it's worth buying, I'll wait untill Nov. and pick up someone's 'Superbit' version on the cheap.

Stiny-Ray2
 - Mar 16, 2010

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That's why it's good to Rent Guys why buy when you can rent and have your minds at piece. I am sure alot of you guys are smart consumers and wont buy the Bait release.

SellmeyourDVD
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet or not... but...

Cameron said Avatar was going to be released on 4/22, with the 3D later this year. Fox denied both claims, but now Avatar IS coming out 4/22.

I'd put my money on the 3D coming out this year. If it doesn't, oh well; I'll just buy it on 3D five years from now when I upgrade my equipment.

Gamma_Winstead
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Oh, so now you guys DO want extras? What happened to the three plus years of posts saying "we want the best quality"?

StalinX1
 - Mar 16, 2010

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capitalism at its finest.

Cinemaniac
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I was saying boourns.

repete66211
 - Mar 16, 2010

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YAY YAY YAY! (Bangs pots and pans together.) Avatards rejoice!

Why is the studio milking the market? Gee, I don't know...Perhaps because people paid to see a mediocre movie multiple times, acted like 3D and CGI were just invented and seem to think Avatar is the messiah of movies. You made the bed people, now lie in it.

onemorechance
 - Mar 16, 2010

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obviously a day one..i dont really mind the extras missing..we may see something we have never seen with blu-ray because of this

JurassicMass88
 - Mar 16, 2010

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jpaul1972
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I just can't believe the SRP for this bare bones edition. I'm dreading to see what the ultimate edition is going to cost.

clown2007
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Is the bare bones edition going to have the 12 minutes of extra footage?

Stiny-Ray2
 - Mar 16, 2010

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repete66211

Your last comment was the post of the Month. *Thumbs up*

ryoohki
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I never ever never watch Special Feature so.. i don't care really

fettastic
 - Mar 16, 2010

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gamma626 said: "Oh, so now you guys DO want extras? What happened to the three plus years of posts saying "we want the best quality"?"

See the difference between Blu-ray and HD DVD (which you are obviously still crying over), is that BD can provide BOTH. HD DVD could only provide one or the other. That's why only something like 25% of HD DVD's had lossless audio and nearly all their extras were in SD.

So yeah....we want both quality and extras. This is brain surgery?

indiephantom
 - Mar 16, 2010

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This is very dangerous for the studio. Once people get a glimpse of AVATAR in 2-D its shortcomings (story, pace, performance, even some f/x) will be harder to overlook. Consider how much replay value this will really have. I saw the film in digital 3-D. I'm not going to recapture that here and the wow factor faded before the movie was even over.

mredman
 - Mar 16, 2010

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There is no such thing as Superbit Bluray. That is is horse s h i t. Just look at King Kong a 200 min long movie and a PiP track along with menu. At that transfer is reference quality. This is a load of crock

Robert Siegel
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I will bet the 3D version will be a special edition. Fox probably hasn't had time to do the special features they wanted to, remember Cameron has been very busy with awards season and before that promoting the film. That said, they should have waited until they could complete a 2nd disc of features but looks like they felt rushing it out was better (I disagree with that strategy).

Who knows, maybe I am wrong but it seems to me Cameron would want to be involved with the extras on this. I am patient and will wait. I'll rent it. When I bought my first Blu-ray player, I promised myself if there is a clue that the studio would be releasing a better edition later (like Lord of the Rings and this film), I will wait this time, after double dipping so much on laserdiscs and DVD's, unless the specs are so tremendous (bit rates, ect) that is is worth it.

will0775
 - Mar 16, 2010

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We can complaint all we want ,but people are going to buy this film, most people are not gonna wait until November or don't know there is another release in November, and most likely the price will easily be over $ 25.00.I agree with most of you, the are going to milk this cow George Lucas stile. Glad we got this website, at least we can vent some disappointment and then go buy the movie.

binary
 - Mar 16, 2010

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well, at least they inform us in advance that a multi disc will come out end of the year....

Kris Deering
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I have mixed feelings on this one. They are releasing the film to get it out there, and I have no doubt it will look and sound fantastic. The ultimate edition will no doubt be the extended cut plus features. One reason to wait on its release is the planned re-release in theaters with the extended cut. If you could already get it on home video, it will eat into the ticket sales of seeing something new. So essentially Fox could have just held off the release entirely until November and release the special edition as the first release and people would complain about the long wait, or go this route.

As for the eventual 3D release, that only matters if you are going to actually watch it in 3D. I can see them holding off a bit on that for maturity sake, but I have a feeling with all this exclusive bundling stuff going on, it might get scooped up in that.

At least Fox had the decency to say right up front what they are doing and not trying to dupe you. It is up to you how you spend your money.

STARSCREAM
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm gonna give Fox some credit here for being upfront and telling of all the versions coming, Unlike some other studio who currently is pulling some shady sh*t with Gladiator!

Atreyu
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm thinking I am going to wait to find ot about what bonus features will be on the November release. Normally bonus features don't have much replay value to me but on this film I think they will. And added footage to the film will also be nice.

masetodd
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm glad their saving room by not including a Menu! Wow, that must save...like...a few megabytes or something. Thanks!

bboisvert
 - Mar 16, 2010

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"I hope james Cameron burns alive in a jet fuel fire. I really do"

I know... the guy made an entertaining movie that many love, is putting it out on blu-ray only 4 months after theatrical release, and announced a month in advance what other versions are planned (and when they're going to come out).

What a dick.

BT.709
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Imaging this...Maximum resolution, 7.1 96/24 audio. The first of its kind in the movie industry. Put me down for one!

hostelmovies
 - Mar 16, 2010

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This is fine as I have no time to watch special features. A commentary would be cool, but I know hate the guy, so the sound of his voice would make me sick.

Russell_L
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I'm all for maximizing bit rates for video and audio. If this film-only "Superbit" release actually does utilize the maximum bit rate that the BD spec allows, it should be THE reference disc to end 'em all. I'm perfectly fine with having a film-only release on April 22, as it's much earlier than I would have expected. (The film will likely still be playing in theaters.) At least we were told about the ultimate edition in advance....

StoogeFan1118
 - Mar 16, 2010

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well I will be buying the barebones release in april because i loved the film. I have seen lots of behind the scenes clips on the making of the film on the internet and watched countless interviews with cast and crew so ill only rebuy if the ultimate edition contains the extended cut of the film.

davidthenikonuser
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Movie only is fine by me. I never watch the extras anyway. All I want to know is what aspect ratio is it? 1.78:1 (I hope) or 2.35:1?

Kris Deering
 - Mar 16, 2010

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There have been titles with 96/24 already, and higher. See Akira. I wouldn't hold your breath on either 96/24 or 7.1, as this film wasn't produced with either. It will most likely be a 48/24 5.1 DTS-HD MA soundtrack. I will guess that at least 5-10 GB of the disc will go unused as Avatar was shot digitally and is an impeccably clean image, so even with its runtime it shouldn't be very hard to encode. I'm actually surprised they took twice as long to do the encode work considering how easy it should have been.

iraino
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I loved the movie so I will be getting all the versions that come out, although I would have preferred just one release with everything on it.

bpmford
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Bla bla bla.... Rip off Rip off Rip off....

I bet most of you that are saying they are not buying in April are full of it...

It will come out, and you will see it on the shelves, and say 'screw it'

I fully plan on double dipping this...

I loved the movie and will get it in April...

Especially considering I thought it would be coming in June or July!!!

And I'm stoked for the features, so I will buy the November one...

Buy the first in april... Pay $25... In November, trade the original one for $10 and buy the second for only $20...

Ouch what a drain in the pocket...

If you are willing to wait, then you really didn't care that much for the movie...

Just like the big Lord of the Rings fans will still buy the one coming in April, even though they are saying they refuse to... why, because they REALLY want to see them on Blu-ray!!!!!

So give it up, studios have been getting us to double dip for years, and that will never change, so stop complaining!!!

Impossible
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I have no interest in seeing it again. It was JUST watchable in 3D on a huge screen, but I couldn't even consider putting myself through it again in other other format.

Blu-Me
 - Mar 16, 2010

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In before people say this is a gimmick...

So, what are the odds here that 20th Century Fox puts a holdout on Netflix for this one.

maidenbrain
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Does releasing a maxed-out AV, "superbit" version somehow preclude the inclusion of a bonus disc? If so, thank goodness Criterion (see Benjamin Button), Paramount (see Zodiac), et. al. weren't aware of it.

atwistedclown2003
 - Mar 16, 2010

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its very possible for one movie to fill up the whole 50gb or very close to it. if you figure the java pop up menu,all the fbi warnings and subtitles. also if they go with a dts-ma 7.1 it will be close to 40gb. watchmen was 186 mins with dts-ma 5.1 and was 38gb just the movie file.im game for only the movie on the disc. special features aren't that important to me.. but they are releasing the special features on a dvd disc. overall im game for them to hit the market with no special features

wonka
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Are they rereleasing this dam thing or what, because this looks like the last time I'll be able to see it in 3D and i've never seen it before is it really that good, but if so I could wait till late summer or fall

TokyoLee
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Ill be at BestBuy April 22.
Day One For me Cant Wait

South Park
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I very rarely watch extra feature but with AVATAR I cannot wait to see the extra stuff AND extended cut. Avatar is the very very best Movie ever made, saw it 5 times in IMAX 3D

highdefw
 - Mar 16, 2010

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12 months from now... I'm gonna look stupid with 3+ different Blu-ray copies of Avatar on my shelf

Thx fox

stargazeruk
 - Mar 16, 2010

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atwistedclown2003 Watchmen from warner was slightly over compressed and used a lower bitrate and squeezed on the extras as well.

Paramount did the directors cut on two disk with all the extras on one disk and the film on another.

Film at 186mins (44.98 GB the movie file alone is in size) with a Just 3 audio tracks, One Dolby True HD track and two aditional english tracks only also just the menu and standard paramount opening and they were able to get on a BD50 with an overall video bitrate of 26.6MBps video and audio 3.42Mbps. Avatar is slightly shorted so we should see a higher bitrate. Also no PIP was included.

bumpyuk28
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Has anyone heard a confirmed aspect ratio for this yet? God i hope its 1.78:1 :-)

stargazeruk
 - Mar 16, 2010

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God I hope its ratio is 2.35:1 with those lovley black borders (and that I am serious about). The way the 2D version was meant to be seen. Before I get asked Yes I realy prefer the 2.35:1 ratio more then the 1.78/1.85:1 ratio.

Minimejer05
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Might rent this version/

Plisskenetic
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Forget Avatar Ultimate Edition Blu-Ray in Nov.... They should do The Dark Knight Ultimate Blu-Ray instead!

McHugh
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I very rarely watch the extras especially "how it was made" as for me it ruins the "magic" of the movie. However, I am interested in an extended cut. I hope that the November issue will have the same picture and sound quality as the movie only release though.

Everman
 - Mar 16, 2010

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I am really hoping for the 2.4:1 as well. I just wish he hadn't gone and shot the "extra IMAX" aspect ratio up to 1.78:1. I totally understand why they are doing that now, so that they can show "even more" on the home screen. I just think when you shoot your movie in 1.78:1, you end up with a TV show. The whole point of the 2.4:1 was to extend into your peripheral vision. It changed the way you framed your subjects and blocked your shots. When you "cheat" the vertical up to 1.78:1, you end up framing your subjects near the edges and you lose the peripheral "extra".

... also I have a 2.4:1 screen at home. =)

Canada
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Looks like I will rent this a lot a wait for the Ultimate Edition in November.

PS: on second thought I will get it for my birthday

clemery
 - Mar 16, 2010

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A barebones Superbit release, eh? Just imagine how awesome that MKV is going to look! :P

WiWavelength
 - Mar 16, 2010

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tomrule123
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Thanks, Twentieth Century Fox and James Cameron, for letting us know in advance about what to expect for AVATAR Blu-ray. As Titanic was first a bare-bones DVD and then became a Three Disc Special Edition years later, this will happen to AVATAR, but in less than a year. SAVE YOUR MONEY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UNTIL THE REAL DEAL COMES OUT!

Lamlot
 - Mar 16, 2010

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Well I will probably wait for the november one, I am really glad I found out about this before i got the april 22nd.

TFordham
 - Mar 17, 2010

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I sense zero dips....I wouldn't waste my money on that piece of crap now, or anytime in the near future.

RyRyMcNizzy13
 - Mar 17, 2010

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I seriously dont get why people complain so much. they are announcing that the other release will be released later so it isnt like they're tricking us into getting this version then hit us with the ultra version. like i said before some people only want the film and that will be the people who pick it up april 22nd. people who want to see the actors on green screen and how they made the dreadlocks the way they are then suck it up and just wait. why boycott this when it's very clear that another release will be done?

HDTV1080P
 - Mar 17, 2010

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I would rather pay $5 less if they made a version that was BLU-RAY only. I do not want a DVD version of the movie, only a BLU-RAY. Will be renting this title. This will be the first Superbit title released on BLU-RAY. That is good news, I hope other titles get the Superbit treatment in the future.

SkillzthatKillz
 - Mar 17, 2010

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LAME, although I normally don't watch special features on movies this is one of the few films that i'm very interested in seeing the production process. There were so many new technologies used in this film and I for one would love to see how they work and how Jim 'n Friends (aka the whole cast/crew) made this movie possible

Mr. Joshua
 - Mar 17, 2010

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Maybe Fox/Cameron should pay for Healthcare LOL! I'm ok with just the movie. I don't care about the DVD mentioned...

somchair1
 - Mar 17, 2010

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so they are going to give it an extra DVD disc? Ummm, Hello McFly! You can put extras on another blu ray disc. GEEZ. GTFOH with this lame excuse Jim Cameron. You don't deserved to be called James yet.

jonnoble27
 - Mar 17, 2010

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is this the first superbit blu-ray released? i thought that was a sony thing.

langn08
 - Mar 18, 2010

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It will be funny to see all the people *itching about this release then it will show up in their collection on release day

DodgerBlue42
 - Mar 19, 2010

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All you people complaining that you're gonna be "forced" to double dip need to get over it; it's not like they haven't already said a better version is coming in November. Is your life really gonna suck that much more if you skip this release and just wait seven months for the one you actually want?

John Peterson
 - Mar 31, 2010

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If this movie is 50GB I'll eat my shorts

kithylin
 - Apr 02, 2010

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Also for all you posters on the first page you have your info wrong.

The current Blu-Ray DISC format is 33gb total. WE DO NOT HAVE 50GB DISCS YET!

Go read wikipedia about blu-ray format.

All current players sold retail at stores today only read 33gb discs, if they released 50gb discs, only internet-capable blu-ray set-top boxes would be able to upgrade their firmware to read 50gb discs. All older blu-ray players would be unable to read 50gb discs. It is for this reason that we do not yet have 50gb discs.


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