Confirming earlier reports (see Blu-ray.com, September 1), Walt Disney Studios has announced that the 3D Blu-ray version of Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland will be exclusively available with Sony 3D displays this holiday season. Consumers who buy select Sony 3D BRAVIA HDTVs will have a choice between Alice or the animated movie Bolt on Blu-ray 3D.
Disney Sony Electronics have joined forces in the US to provide both consumer and retail education, promotion and marketing support for in-home 3D devices and content. This campaign, featuring multiple consumer incentives as well as a comprehensive television, on-line, social media and print campaign, will launch during the high-traffic holiday retail season.
"We are excited to partner with Sony on 3D offerings and to offer consumers their first chance to experience one of 2010's top 3D films and the amazing spectacle of Wonderland in their very own homes," said Lori MacPherson, general manager of Home Entertainment for The Walt Disney Studios. "We recognize Sony is a leader in HD hardware and we know movie lovers will enjoy the immersive content that is a part of Disney's 3D titles."
With this, 3D Blu-ray releases exclusively tied to 3D hardware include:
I'm afraid I have to join the previous two posters: so far we only have a handful commercially available Blu-ray 3D titles. It's hard enough to get people to adopt them as it is (personally, I'm holding back because the investment required is too high and I want to wait for shutter glass-less technology) but if on top of that they make over 80% of titles exclusively bundled to TV's, then they're killing it before it even gets off the ground.
While there's not much left to add on the exclusivity deals = killing in-home 3D adoption, please note the new level of greed here: you buy a Sony 3D Bravia HDTV, you get EITHER Alice OR Bolt. It's also weird that Sony's taken the exclusivity route with 2 Disney titles, while their own Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs is available to all. Also: between Alice and Bolt, am I the only one who would actually go for Bolt?
If more movies go Exclusive to any store or any tv then I will not buy a 3D HDTV. This is getting out of hand already with stores or tv brands wanting this movie or that movie. What are the studios doing, I guess they don't want to make any money at all. If studios or tv brands want to have exclusives then LOWER YOUR PRICES ON 3D TV'S, 3D BLU-RAY PLAYERS, 3D A/V RECEIVERS & 3D GLASSES. I forgot to mention for families that have more than 5 People living there have a FAMILY BUNDLE of a 3D TV (Between a 40" to 50" Screen), 3D BLU-RAY PLAYER, 3D A/V RECEIVER & 8 RECHARGEABLE 3D GLASSES & ALL OF THE MOVIES THAT YOU HAVE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS for $2999.99. Then I'll get it.
In addition to the list shown, isn't "Monsters vs. Aliens" still a Samsung exclusive as well?
I'm in the market for a 55" TV this fall, and I have pretty much decided NOT to go 3D. There aren't enough titles to go around as is, but this exclusivity is ridiculous for a fledgling technology. Do they expect early adopters to buy THREE 3D TVs so they can get all the titles they want?
Igloo, if you buy a Panasonic 50 vt25 at Magnolia right now it comes with the TV, 3 pairs of glasses, coraline, ice age in a bundle, and you'll get Avatar later by mail. It also comes with a 3D blu-ray player. All for $2,199. If you bought 5 more glasses it would total out to $2,950...so it sounds like you can actually get what you want right now. The 54" adds $200, the 58" $600 more than the 58".
After reading more carefully, Disney's press release states that Alice or Bolt will be bundled, but it never states the titles will be exclusive. After reading an article on Home Media Magazine, it almost sounds like Alice will be made available at general retail and that you simply get it for free when you buy the TV. It may end up being an exclusive, but the press release makes it sound like simple cross-promotion. Neither article mentions Bolt being available at retail. It may still be an exclusive. Guess we'll all find out soon enough.
Here's what another site said about the exclusivity matter this quote has been taken from Hidefdigest.com and it is about what studios should avoid as mistake http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Nate_Boss/Straight_Talk_with_Nate_Boss/Industry_Trends/High-Def_Retailing/The_Biggest_Blu-ray_Blunders,_and_Why_They_Have_to_Stop!/5324 and here's the quote about 3D Blu-ray for those who don't want to read the whole thing "Did you plop down nearly three thousand on a fancy new 3D set up for your home? If so, do you like the few family films so much that you watch them over, and over, and over, and over? If the studios and manufacturers get their way, you will end up watching 'Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs' or 'Monster House' thirty-nine times, while you wait for the 'Shrek' films, 'Monsters vs Aliens,' or 'How to Train Your Dragon' to be available to purchase in stores without buying a television or $350 starter set. This new sub-format is being crippled from the start, by forcing consumers to pick or choose their setup based on what movie they like more rather than what player, driving the second hand market for titles (on Ebay, for example) to sky high rates, a poacher's dream, just for a handful of payola. This is one of 3D Blu-ray's biggest hurdle right now. "
I have to say that I totally agree with this article and I am baking it a 100%. When do studios are going to learn? I don't know but not this year. Only a law suite could change that I believe it is called a class action in English (sorry I am french) to force studios to release movies in 3D Blu-ray for those who have bought for 3,000$ of equipment and cannot enjoy it. I have to tell I am not against incentive to buy a 3D blu-ray product but to keep it exclusive is totally unacceptable. In the beginning of Blu-ray Samsung made a incentive with the Blu-ray association to give us the choice of already released movies (5 to be exact) and we had maybe a limited choice but we could chose something. So why don't they do the same or close. If I by a Panasonic I can get Avatar but If I want I can by Monster vs Aliens, or Alice in Wonderland. We costumers have to stand our ground and show those big corporations what we want and they should be delivering it ass soon as possible.
Too much hate mongering...the way I see it is this: I purchaed my SamSung 3D "REALIZING" that 3D content was going to be slow. Helllllo, its a new format when Blu-Ray and HD were competing for business they were making bundles and exclusives for their product. This is no different, only in the sense that its companies rivaling the same product. I don't mind...in a year all content will be released to everyone and this discussion wll be moot. In the Meantime I can't wait for Monster house next week!
You forgot A Christmas Carol which has been anounced as a general retail 3D release
Yet another deal. It looks like we are only going to get 5 or 6 actual 3D movies avalible for general 3D release before years end. Doesn't look like Blu-Ray 3D is worth your time until next year at least
At first I didn't concern myself too much with all this exclusivity. I just thought of it as a little healthy competition between TV manufacturers to get you to buy their TV, but now this is getting out a hand to a point that all these good movies are coming out on 3D Blu-Ray and for someone who wants them all there is no cost effective way to get them. I mean you either buy one of every TV that exclusively carries the film you want or you pay an extreme price on Ebay. I hate to say this but this sort of behavior is ultimately only going to further promote the pirating of 3D Blu-Rays as in people will just go online to download the movies they clearly cannot afford. Now I know this exclusivity isn't permanent, but think about this. No news is available yet about Toy Story 3 in 3D or 1 & 2 for that matter. I am becoming concerned that all 3 movies will become an exclusive bundle to a given TV manufacturer (Sony seems like the first choice) and this will be a problem.
I was ok at first with one or two less popular films getting exclusivity but when you now have major motion pictures like Avatar, THE defining film that lead to this whole 3D revolution as well as superbly popular Disney films creating a mess of things, which will ultimately pose problems from the get go. I won't say that these actions will be the death of 3D, because with live broadcasts and video games to help supplement the supply of 3D content it won't die, but these actions will really confuse, annoy, and turn away consumers.
I know plenty of people who want to embrace the 3D revolution, but actions like this are helping to turn them away.
Everyone keeps forgetting that most people are buying their 3D TVs for sports not movies, the movies are a bonus to them not a deal breaker. Everyone I know who still wants a 3D TV is not phased by the exclusives because all they want is football and nascar and they can hold off on the movies.
3D isn't just about Blu-ray. That's just one, frankly, small aspect. We are about to get DELUGED with 3D hardware, not just TVs.
I just got my Aiptek 3D camcorder yesterday and I'm going to be recording a ton of 3D content. Phones, pads, cameras, Nintendo DS, just about any portable device you can think of will be taking 3D snapshots at least, if not video.
Let's not forget all the 3D videos already available for download on websites and Youtube. My Samsung TV just got a 3D download service where I can download free 3D movie trailers and eventually 3D films.
My PS3 plays 3D games already and that is a whole other strata of 3D.
My friend has a 3DTV and enjoys a couple of 3D channels and 3D PPV.
3D HARDLY hinges on how many 3DBDs are on the market. It's here, the ENTIRE consumer electronics industry is behind it as well as just about every visual content creator and provider.
3D is here to stay so if you want to sit on the sidelines and shoot spitballs at it like the HD DVD idiots, have at it. But just like them, you ARE WRONG! Even TOSHIBA has announced 3D hardware! That should tell you something.
I totally agree, it is sports that will push 3D, not blurays. I am going to buy a tv soon, I was going to upgrade this year if the NFL announced full 3D support. But since it hasn't I'll probably wait till next year and let the prices drop and the quality go up.
Right now there just is not anywhere close to enough software available to make the 3D purchase worth it. Your paying premium $$$ for a first generation product with no little to no software support.
Watch what happens if they announce the Superbowl will be broadcast in 3D, that would really help the format.
This isn't the videogame industry, you idiots (Sony, Panasonic and Samsung, not you guys, lol). When a console is released, sure they have exclusive games, but this is on top of third party games that, for the most part, come to both systems.
You can't expect people to buy a 3D TV for ONE movie, since getting other movies will require people to buy another brand's TV. It's like selling the PS3 and expecting people to spend money on it when it can only play one game. I bought a Samsung and got the movie Aliens vs. Monsters. Fortunately, I bought the TV for gaming, primarily, so little by little more and more games having been coming to the PS3 to support the feature, but if I bought this thing for movies I would be so upset.
Sony is the worst one (and I say this as a fan of their equipment) because they want 3D to take off so they cut it's head off. People will buy your TV because they trust your company. No one is going to buy a TV based on one 30 dollar BluRay disc, so this doesn't even serve a purpose, except for killing 3D before it's even born.
"Hi, I'd like to buy a 3D TV, how many movies are out?"
"Well there are 3 movies out right now, but more will be available by the end of the year, but you have to buy a particular TV to get them."
"So if I buy a 3D TV today, I'll get Alice in Wonderland, but if I want Avatar, I have to buy a Panasonic TV?"
Meanwhile at the Sony headquarters, "So the reports are in, and people are just not interested in 3D."
Some idiot thought that TV and Movie player industries were like gaming consoles, where a Three Thousand Dollar TV could be comparable to buying the Xbox360 in order to play Halo. Idiots... seriously, idiots.
If I buy an Xbox 360, I can play games like Mass Effect, Gears of War, and Halo... all for buying ONE Xbox 360. If I get a PS3, I can play Uncharted, Gran Turismo and Little Big Planet... all for buying ONE PS3!!
I heard that How to Train your Dragon was going to Samsung... Well I already own a F#@king Samsung 3D TV.. It would be like buying a 360 to play Halo and then having to buy another 360 to play Gears, since my owning a Samsung 3D TV doesn't automatically allow me to buy How to Train your Dragon, since I bought mine when Aliens vs. Monsters was the "pack-in"
They are confusing the hell out of the system. Loyalty to the brand doesn't even grant you their own exclusives because they are bloody pack-ins.
I just hope that when it fails, they understand why it failed.
Not that I am happy that those 2 are not true 3D Blu Ray's. These exclusives are killing me. I send an email to DreamWorks; let's see if they are replying to me. We should create a Facebook page complaining about the exclusives.
So, can I get the exclusive movies from Samsung, since I have the whole Samsung set-up for 3D?
Samsung or any other company should sell the exclusives to people who have already bought in to the 3D format, and have very little to buy, unless of course you are willing to pay hundreds and I mean $200-$400 each movie on eBay; which of course I refuse to do.
LOL - suckers. I can't believe that people are buying into 3D, what the heck are you going to do in a year or two when it's dead in the water? You'll have some very expensive equipment with nowhere to go with it. Its like laserdisc or Beta, worthless.
This is just stupid. This exclusive crap for 3D BD would be like only selling regular BD in certain stores for certain titles. I mean I already hate the steelbook exclusives, etc. But having exclusives bundled to hardware? Please...if the format war between studios was dumb, this is doubly dumb. That's one reason why I hald off upgrading to BD in the first place...I didn't want to have to buy a BD player and a HD-DVD player to watch certain titles. So I sure as hell am not going to get all 3D'ed up for certain brands of hardware. I realize this is 3D BD in its infancy, but it's sure isn't helping the adoption of such technology any.
Fettastic.... A Christmas Carol and Goldberg variations are mentioned in the article, and Open Season has not been officially announced yet, just advertised. That is why it is not on the list. I don't think anyone was trying to "lie" or make a point with anything. I sent in the link about the exclusive and Juan wrote up the article. Maybe it was edited after you made the comment? I don't know.
I LOVE IT! The industry showing it's true nature like a face card. Instead of spending resources to ensure each movie that goes to Blu-ray gets a good transfer, they instead push 3D, which is nothing more then a gimmick, but in such a way that it shows them for the greedy low-life's that they are. I'm certainly not a 3D supporter as I've said I see it as nothing more then a hokey gimmick that gets old in a heartbeat, but heck,,,,,a big "way to go!" goes out to the industry for putting your hanging yourself.
OK - I'm on my third week of a Samsung 3D unit and all I've managed to watch is Monsters vs Aliens and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs. I'm in total agreement with other comments; if you truly want to sell product make it accessible to all buyers.
If you believe in the quality and marketability of your TV, an exclusive ploy isn't the answer.
The thing is, all the major companies are adopting this marketing scheme, so it must be working, right? They must be selling these things at a decent pace to enough early adopters to keep doing what they're doing, right?
Hmmmmmmmm... three pages in and it seems I am the first person to ask whether the Alice In Wonderland 3D BD will feature the same cheap, ugly, poorly post-producecd 3D conversion that played at the cinema... or if they have actually parted with the money to create a proper 3D conversion?
Not only is 3D a relatively expensive investment to get into (especially for those of us who have just gone out and bought large flat screens a bit too early); not only are current 3D owners shafted by exclusivity arrangements; not only are studios ripping off consumers by charging more for an increasing number of poorly post-converted 3D shite... but now you also might just be getting the same horrid 3D effect on your brand new 3DTV.
After, alice In Wonderland, Clash Of The Titans and Pirahna 3D, unless a film is advertised as being 'shot in 3D', I won't be wasting my money on seeing it.
Clemery, to each his own....I saw Alice in the theater in 3D and thought the conversion was wonderful. I didn't even know it had been converted the first time I saw it, so I went back to see it again. I thought it was an excellent conversion. I also saw Clash of the Titans in 3D and found the 3D terrible. I also just imported the 3D disc of Titans from Germany and also felt it was pretty awful. I currently have a Sony demo disc with Alice's trailer on it, and I think it looks fantastic.
Stupidity at it's MAX! While they may be securing good money from Panasonic and Samsung (ect..) for these titles, in the long run they are killing the chance for 3D. Look how many titles you cannot buy on the store shelf, including the number 1 film of all time (Avatar) in 3D. This is truly a sad situation, what are they thinking? The time is right for 3D, everyone knows about it for the home, they have been relentless in their promotions, and the studios choose to exclusively market titles to certain brand names. Oh well, I am just another of the many people who will wait it all out until I can buy all of the titles and they stop this nonsense.
The only movie I'm interested in at all on any of these lists is Avatar... It would definitely have influenced me to buy a Panasonic when I buy a 3d-tv... however the high ratings of the Panasonic TV's are enough reason to pick them anyway...
Nothing. The TV I bought is still an amazing 2D TV that makes my gaming look amazing, and my HD movies look even better.
The thing is I bought this TV for 3D gaming, not movies. And I have not been disappointed in the least. Sony has been slowly releasing updates to existing games in 3D, and it makes an awesome difference in games like Motorstorm and Wipeout.
So I don't really consider myself a sucker, because as I said, I didn't buy it for movies, and the games have been awesome, and Gran Turismo is coming out in 2 months in 3D, so I don't regret buying it.. I just think the movie studios are stupid because a larger percentage of the people interested in 3D at this point are interested because of the movies, and that's where they are screwing people.
Also I paid 1700 for my 46inch 3D TV at Frys (two pairs of glasses included). It didn't break me, and that's about how much I'd spend for a non-3D slim-line TV. And this is also a slimline, that comes with Netflix, Pandora, and a crapload of other apps, so in a year or two, if 3D fails, I won't feel like I broke my bank for this TV.
So, nah, unless you've actually played a current generation game in 3D, you're the sucker, lol