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Michael Bay Feeling Blu Again

Posted October 23, 2007 08:02 AM by Josh Dreuth

Blu-ray DiscDirector Michael Bay is feeling Blu once again with recent comments regarding Paramount's decision to release his blockbuster hit 'Transformers' only on rival format HD DVD. "It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD," he commented. "As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out."

Bay's on-again, off-again, on-again relationship with Blu-ray began when he posted critical comments on his website regarding Paramount's decision to go HD DVD exclusive. A few days later, he retracted those words by reiterating the same talking points used by all HD DVD supporters. But now, as Paramount is announcing huge sales of the Transformer DVD and HD DVD, Michael Bay is at it again, criticizing the decision and the format his movie was released on.


Source: USA Today | Permalink | United States [Country settings]

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CrippyBlunt
 - Oct 23, 2007

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That's exactly what I'm doing... Waiting! Smart man!

Zaphod
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Transformers...500,000 if exclusive to Blu-ray!

partridge
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Paramount must quietly be wondering what those sales might have been if the movie was format neutral though... And if it had been released on both, I'd bet the blu-ray sales would have out stripped those of HD-DVD.

ground chuck
 - Oct 23, 2007

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he's like a lil b*tch, always changing his mind.

cathexist
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Wonder how long it will take before he drinks "the kool aid" again and flips.

00_blue
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I will not buy any Paramont movie untill the turn back to the blue side.

Malosch78
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I only buy my movies on Blu-ray!!!

FiReBiRd95
 - Oct 23, 2007

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The money they must have paid him to say hddvd was better mus have run out !!! Too late.

richard lichtenfelt
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Too bad he doesn't have Spielbergian levels of influence.
No way I'm buying a hd dvd player.

steve69bez
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I hated transformers anyway it was a shallow film, all surface and no depth. I love the cartoons still though so I'll buy the original transformers on Blu, Michael Bay doesn't have the power Spielberg has to demand what format he wants his movies on but it seems like he tries, then Paramount tell him he won't make another transformers film if he doesn't retract his statement, so then he does. He should stick with his opinion and not use Paramount and use Fox instead just to piss them off!

dobyblue
 - Oct 23, 2007

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He's had time to think about a smarter statement that just coming out and saying "No Transformers 2 for me"

E-Dogg
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Does this really surprise anyone? Michael recognizes that Blu-Ray is the superior HD format of the 2 and also realizes that Parawhore has limited sales of the movie buy choosing the loosing side. He is damn right we will wait it out. Honestly, I will buy this on day 1 when it's released on Blu.

scook
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I will also buy this on Blu along with everyone else because the movie was made for Blu, it was advertised for Blu, SUPPORTED HEAVILY by PS3 and it was BULL that Michael didnt speak up when he could have and DEMANDED his movie to be released on the only format that could have done the movie justice. I will wait and will not support parawhore in the slightest until they come crawling back to the Blu side.

badchannels
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Maybe he'll put a few Blu-Ray billboards in the next Transformers film or maybe blu-ray players in the vehicles this time.

And I bet he realizes that by the time Transformers 2 comes out, the Paramount buy off will be over with and the film can be released on Blu Ray. I bet that's what he was told by Paramount when he first spouted off against HDdvd.

JTK
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Folks are forgetting something: Bay's initial rant about Paramount was quite genuine. The "retraction" a day later was... in amazingly canned PR language. Do you all understand what I'm unsubtly suggesting here?

I suspect Bay has personally been very consistent on this issue.

Iceman_II
 - Oct 23, 2007

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For crying out loud, even the director of the movie is a "transformer" Some days he is one thing, and some days another...

Give it a brake Mr. Bay... next retraction, he will probably say something like:
"HD-DVD is the look and sound of perfect, but it depends on what your definition of 'IS' is."

CptGreedle
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I am glad to hear that he is still true to Blu. He did make a fuss knowing full well what he was talking
about, but Paramount paid him to keep quiet about it, which he did... for a while. But now that his
movie is out on HD-DVD and not Blu-ray, he is clearly upset at Paramount's choice.
I think he should forbid Paramount from releasing his works at all if they are not on Blu-ray as well,
like Steven is doing.
I am just glad to hear that he is still voicing a positive opinion about Blu-ray!

gamer4eva
 - Oct 23, 2007

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wait till paramount gives him another call

i want the matrix

tru blu
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'm sorry but when he retracted his comments he lost my repect. If he believed Blu-ray was better
he should have stuck to his beliefs no matter what Paramount may have said to him. Pass.

May the Blu be with you...

Mr. Joshua
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'm betting Michael Bay changed his mind about blu-ray and went in support of HD DVD and Paramount's decision to go HD DVD exclusive so he could close the deal on the Transformers sequal. Now he's got that sequal in his back pocket he's telling us how he really feels. I'm sure he would have made tons on the blu-ray sale of Transformers.... and he knows it....

Mr. Joshua
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Don't had the player hate the game. Michael Bay is just a player in the HD war game... Don't be Michael Bay hate'n... LOL...

DrinkMore
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Is he drunk again?

glenn22
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I hope he's serious this time.

bhampton
 - Oct 23, 2007

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And some people called Kerry a flip flopper. This guy takes the cake.

He really seems like a mindless twit to me. He was right the first time and he's right again but expect
him to change his mind on this at least 3 more times this week.

-Brian

Cyorg
 - Oct 23, 2007

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By the way everyone is talking about him, it sounds as if he does this all the time. How many times has he flip flopped? The only time I can think of is back when the Paramount deal first went down, and that seemed very canned. Has he done it since then? Besides now of course.

Shark
 - Oct 23, 2007

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It doesn't make any sense! $150 million for 190 thousand HD DVD's sold. That means Toshiba paid $789473.68 each for movies their selling for $40. That means they lost $789433.68 on every Transformers HD DVD sold. HD DVD must be really desperate.

TruBlu2
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I will not buy any paramount movie.

M. Bay isn't drunk again is he?

I always knew he was loyal to Blu. paramount went after him because he is under contract after he made those statements.

His heart is with Blu!! That is nice.

Now bring Transformers out on the #1 next-gen format that is Blu-ray.

Gio
 - Oct 23, 2007

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everyone should by the rock just so he can see what could of been

TheTenth
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Seems easy to understand he "flipped" the first time because of pressions from Paramount.
Now that the movie is released, he can talk freely ... and guess what? He puts another nail into Paramount's coffin : not only is he pissed at how the DVD content was developed (not included in this article) and he publicly states his preference for Blu-ray (and obviously the size of it).
Why all the hate for him? It's not like you've never had to retract what you've said in your life (parents, teachers, boss ...)

badchannels
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Transformers 2 will be out on Blu Ray....Paramount knows it and Michael Bay knows it. And I'm sure he was told by a Paramount rep that after the exclusivity deal runs its course, his movies will be released on Blu Ray. He probably got the sequel deals out of that meeting, I'm sure.

He only flipped his words once in regards to the format war and I'm sure Paramount jumped him and threatened him because he was under contract. He was probably forced to retract his statements due to his contractual agreements. That isn't his fault, he didn't expect Paramount to take the cheap payoff by HDdvd when he made Transformers, that happened after the fact. So turning your back on him isn't exactly fair. He was trapped just like all of us were.

Paramount took the money they were offered, but I'm more than sure that after this release of Transformers they will go back to being neutral or possibly even Blu Ray exclusive when their contract with HDdvd is up. And its really not that far away if you think about it. Transformers 2 will still have a few months before it is released on dvd by then.

I'm sure we'll be seeing a Transformers box set on Blu Ray in the coming years when all of the smoke clears. He's just pissed like all of us that we have to wait.

Hanzaki
 - Oct 23, 2007

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LOL this is pathetic... :/

Nicadian
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Michael Bay is a chump. I like blu ray, no i like HD DVD, no I like Blu Ray.

JAGUAR1977
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Now Transformers is out he can put forward his true feelings.

ZDOG
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I will only buy movies on blu-ray.Transformers and other hd-dvd movies will have to be remastered to sound and look as good as they would on blu-ray.Just watched Fantastic 4,sounded and looked awesome.Blu-ray til the end!!!

Luis_A51
 - Oct 23, 2007

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we all know those bastards at paramount are gonna force bay to retract or alter his comments

Nicadian
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Yeah he will say again he was drinking too much blue kool aid again.

kaliraver
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Paramount won't be getting any of my money thats for sure until they go back to Blu-Ray! I have no doubt Transformers wouldn't have that big of a deal if it would've been released on both formats. This movie was hyped up so much for HD-DVD because of the Paramount deal. Without that deal it would've sold less than 80,000 dud discs. Oh well, you live & learn, screw Paramount!

domerdel
 - Oct 23, 2007

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i'm blu all the way but it's best for studios like paramount/dreamworks to stay neutral. we need to gain more hi-def market share against DVD... it's a long road.

Amel
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'm also waiting

its going to take some time, but HDDVD basically has no chance

Zoomy
 - Oct 23, 2007

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cruzzer cruz
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I don't see why everyone's crying about Bay's statement now, he obviously believes Blu-ray is the superior format. He was forced to retract his statement when Paramount put the crush on him, and now that the numbers are out, like others have said, he can speak freely. It's business and he doesn't have the same clout that Spielberg or Coppola have to tell studios to go fuck themselves.

undecided
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Too bad he is not smart enough to give us some good technical reasons for his preference.

Michael Bay being a advocate of BD may not be a plus in some ways.
Obviously open to getting checks from any direction.

pscoop
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Hmm maybe the HD DVD numbers aren't quite what Paramount is saying.

kaliraver
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Zoomy quit drinking the red kool-aid, those quotes are current since he also talks about Transformers 2 in his comments. BTW if you don't know how to read it shows he does have a preference for Blu-Ray over HD-DVD.

JT_Designer
 - Oct 23, 2007

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So Director Michael Bay should say to Paramount release his movie on Blu-ray or I'll just promote my movies on Blu-ray and nothing else. Soon they will realize they are about to loose a ton of money.

JT_Designer
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Most comsumer electronics stores that have large plasma displays have the Blu-ray logo animating on their widescreen LCD/Plasma displays and do not even promote HD-DVD. Some carry HD-DVD movies, but do not promote them.

By backing only HD-DVD Paramount is going to loose a lot of money.

You would think Paramount would want to make money, but everyone I know who owns a Blu-ray player will not buy the HD-DVD Transformers and just buys it on DVD instead. Therefore Paramount looses money.

Elandyll
 - Oct 23, 2007

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The guy obviously prefers Blu-Ray, and that is always a good thing.

Too bad it seems that the studio he plays for (Paramount) seems to have a leash on him.
I bet HD-DVD zealots are foaming at the mouth with those comments though.

EuLoGY
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Im sorry fellas but there are only 3 directors in this world who have "ANY" pull at all.

Speilberg

Lucas

Scorsese

After that they are Production company bitches and yes men. No matter what Micheal "the human flip flop" Bay says about the formats, it has no bearing on the situation.

nails
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Bay knows what the better format is, he is probably hoping for his next films to be non-exclusive like spielberg before he actually starts making the next movie.

Manganeez
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I understand Michael Bay's position here. He has let his true feelings be known, but business influences have forced him to try to rein it in a bit. We should be glad that he has spoken out at all, and I'm also sure he is trying to work internally in support of BD.

He has not "lost my respect" as others have said, simply because he is trying to play nice with those with whom he does business. That said, I am still boycotting Transformers, along with all Paramount films, until they are no longer involved the the HD-DVD organization and their tactics of bribery and extortion in support of an inferior format.

Robert Siegel
 - Oct 23, 2007

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The guy can't make up his mind. He was very pissed, then after the famous "meeting" at Paramount, he came out with a totally different attitude. I wonder what the offers from Paramount were to calm him down?

Manganeez
 - Oct 23, 2007

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@Zoomy: I tried Googling for that quote. It doesn't show up anywhere prior to 22 Oct 2007, so I'd have to agree with kaliraver69 that you're wrong about it being an old quote.

Zoomy
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Could somebody give me direct link where he says that

"It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD (home video)," he says. "As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out."

Cause that sounds like what he said two months back. If he said it again recently point me to it. Please.
It should be on Michael Bay.com right , I didn't see it though.

Zoomy
 - Oct 23, 2007

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It doesn't matter anyway. I don't have no money invested in hd-dvd or blu-ray.
I just want hd movies to be cheaper , and the best way for it is competition.

Just for the record I am neutral.

swdvader
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I would like to see the actual sales figures dvd - HDDVD. DVD sales would include some blu-ray people who wanted the movie. The HDDVD sales are what counts. If they suck, HDDVD can close shop today because thats the biggest movie. Its all down hill from there. As for Bay, he's just a pawn in the big money game. He had no clue paramont was going to screw him as you can see from his first post which he had to retract. You cant put all the blame on him. After all were talking about 100's of millions of dollars.

swdvader
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Paramount says first-week sales numbers for its HD DVD release of 'Transformers' top those of any other high-def disc released on either next gen format to date.

According to a just-issued press release from Paramount, the HD DVD edition of 'Transformers' sold over 100,000 units in its first day of release, and went on to sell an additional 90,000 units over next six days, making it the fastest and best-selling week one release on either high definition format, as well as the best selling HD DVD ever.

Cyorg
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'll take Blu-Ray support unconditionally. Yes, we were all mad that he retracted his comments about Blu and HDDVD before, but jeez, lets be happy that he's back where he belongs.

Raziel Dune
 - Oct 23, 2007

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i would of loved to see how much blu-Ray would outsold the hd-dvd version like 300

DefTechPioElite
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Bay loves blu, would yall lose the chance to direct an awesome movie/make a crap-ton-o-money over something like this? We all know Bay loves Blu-ray. He did what he did for several reasons, he probably really wants to do the sequel and make some cash, who can blame him. He as never said "HDDVD is better." he said he checked out 300 on HDDVD and "it rocked!" big whoop i bet those online features were SO COOL(sarcasm) so whatever, he loves blu!!!! I guarantee that as soon as the 18-month exclusivity deal is up, we will see transformers on BD.

sub-micron
 - Oct 23, 2007

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You know I'm feeling a bit strange here. Perhaps this guy is bipolar.
Again this is a marketing strategy that seems ill fated.

I go to bestbuy almost everyday and Transformers is still there. The racks are not empty. I bought
the movie on regular DVD. I saw it and shipped it to my sister. Like a said before this movie has no
replay value whatsoever. I adopted Blu-Ray simply because it is a superior disc format.

Non educated buyers will buy what's cheapest without any care for what really they are buying.
Paramount made a decision solely for more revenue. They said it was because the HD DVD players
are cheaper. Can't be any clearer than that. Did any body mentioned Wal-Mart consumers.

Mr. Bay may have his pockets full now, but nothing is forever.

I figure the less coverage we give this guy the better. I realize people need to be aware of the
industry, but this is just to much propaganda for one director.

blackpixels
 - Oct 23, 2007

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"Again this is a marketing strategy that seems ill fated."

You are correct. It seems that he took the money only for an exclusive launch only. Shame on Paramount for such huge financial blunder!

"Non educated buyers will buy what's cheapest without any care for what really they are buying."

Without stereotyping - yes, MOST consumers want the "perceived" value without making a truley educated decision" Kinda like voting for Bush!!

I figured this Movie was too big and too much of a financial enterprise for it to remain exclusively on HD-DVD, the real clincher would be a "Limited Edition" Blu-ray.

And so the greedy world turns - I hope it all gets buried with him so he can rot with it.

SDG
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I respect Bay. He has stated his beliefs twice publicly. Yes, this time was after the sale of the movie. Still, he is in a sticky situation and still makes the statement. He knows that his movie was the biggest HD seller so far and still disrespects the HD DVD crowd by saying IT would have been better on BLU-RAY. Im sure red is mad right now. My hat off to the man.

kubrick
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Hhhhmmmmmmm, though as far as im concerned he's no classic Director, im glad that he makes his opinion known. hopefully he wont retract this statement, however all support is welcome.

sub-micron
 - Oct 23, 2007

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And remember this was based on DVD SALES! NOT HD DVD!!! Is not only Mr. Bay is also companies
such as Paramount and DreamWorks. Like I always say the deal is sealed. Pirating comes to mind.
Poor man he doesn't know what he just created. For pulling that Mickey Mouse Bull Sh*t he just
opened a can of worms. No offence to Disney. I buy all of their Blu-Ray movies. ;-) This is not about
respecting one director! This a slap in the face. All the sudden this guy became the mainstream of Hi
Def content.

swdvader
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Bay has no control over what format his movie comes out on. Believe me the more formates the better. I sure he has some deal for units sold.

pichner
 - Oct 23, 2007

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(Wait'll this time next year people. PS3 won't mean a damn thing...... ) and you mean what by that?

Cbailey
 - Oct 23, 2007

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adveil you are an idiot, once the Halo 3 shine rubs off, the 360 is done for, I think it's hilarious watching these idiots thinking just because of Transformers, HD-DVD is the best. Movies like Star Wars, directors like Spielberg, that is who will determine the outcome of this quote "war". Had it been released on Blu-Ray it would've sold much more than just some 100,000 copies. The PS3 is the future...

common_sense
 - Oct 23, 2007

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adevilnamedbuena
Oct 23, 2007 14:40

Wait'll this time next year people. PS3 won't mean a damn thing.

Are you upset that Blu-ray is winning and has more suppot? Have you bought into hd-dvd assumption that PS3 does not count toward blu-ray players being sold? Then explain how come Blu-ray is leading in disc sold if hd-dvd is dominating the players market by not couting the PS3. How about the notion that ms said hd-dvd in the 360 was not that important but now it is? How about the fact most of the best movies are exclusive to Blu-ray? And last how come I bought Blu-ray movies for less than hd-dvd. I thought hd-dvd was suppose to be cheaper?

sub-micron
 - Oct 23, 2007

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This a volatile planet. Next year we may not be here at all. In an ever changing world, the market
undoubtedly changes as well. Frankly, I don't see what PS3 has to do with any of this. PS3 is not
really part of the equation here.

sub-micron
 - Oct 23, 2007

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adevilnamedbuena really has not much to say. Everyone is entitle to voice their own opinion, but
make it worth while. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that Microfart is behind all of this. LOL.

PaulDubya
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Michael Bay needs to get with the program and have more rights to his films that way if Paramount is like were going HDDVD ecslusive he can bit%h slap them and tell them which format he will release it on

DRKNOCKBOOT
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'll wait aswell.

mikesoba
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Whatever.

Transformers still bored me.

bkbluray
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Transformers has nothing on Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. They're acting like it's the killer movie that will win everyone over to DUD.

blu-rayfan101
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Make up your mind! God just stick with blu-ray already.

atdm71
 - Oct 23, 2007

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JTK has it right. I have no doubts he's been down with Blu all along. When there are this many hundreds of millions of dollars floating around, trust there are also lawyers and handlers near by flexing every muscle they have to reign the guy in. If Bay had is way, you would have your Transformers on BD. Don't underestimate the sincerity of every pro Blu statement he's made.

bkbluray
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I'd much rather have Casino Royale or Spider-man than Transformers.

tru blu
 - Oct 23, 2007

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If the PS3 doen't matter why are Toshiba & Microsoft working on a similar console with a HD DVD
hard drive. Funny how Toshiba doesn't count the PS3 in hardware sales, but want one of their own.
Always playing catch up. LOL

May the Blu be with you...

DirtHerder
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Mr. Bay is quite the flip-flopper to no compare. His original gut reaction was sincere when this mighty turd came out with the Paramound / Dreamworst announcement. The Instant retraction was amazingly expected since he came to realize that the torrent of emails from the studios flowing in almost immediately afterwards would not assist his bank-account future's prospects. Like all of hollyweird; the Mighty $DOLLAR$ speaks louder then one's profession (directing crowd pleasing fluff) there. Outside of course, the massive tanking (in the box office) of several ANTI- War/Government/Military/Corporate/Republican due to one's "artistic" leanings. Money always moves one's desires. Bay made a mistake with his first whine, and he didn't have the "moral" backbone to stick to it at the expense of his pocket book.
Yes, to bkbluray. We would all love to see Spidy / Diehard soon.. but why the hell are they only going to sell them in a pack?!

jbt419
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Live and learn, pal: Blu-Ray IS the cheese!

Huberto Escuadra
 - Oct 23, 2007

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Michael Bay should go Blu-ray he w/ seal more and if he put on psp umd format too

bkbluray
 - Oct 23, 2007

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@DirtHerder - I can't think of a good reason why they're selling Spidey and Die Hard in box sets other than that they will sell more movies and make a higher profit. I don't mind; I loved all three Spiderman movies (The first and second more than the third). I'm getting the box set for about $5 more than buying the first two movies separately.

I'm sure eventually we will see each one sold individually.

LotR B.D. would rok
 - Oct 23, 2007

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If you really MUST see Transformers in HD or near-HD, then play it on your backwards compatible player. (especially if you have Sammy's de-interlacing HQV processor on your player) I know it's not as good as on Blu-ray but it's pretty da** close.

darkpoet25
 - Oct 23, 2007

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DirtHerder, the reason Spiderman is a box is that for the time being only Spiderman 3 will be available outside the box, so getting the first two would require the purchase of the box. Ditto for the Die Hard Collection, Die Hard, Die Hard 2, and Live Free or Die Hard will be out as singles and Die Hard 3 is included in the box set. Seeing as how there are many who want these, the box sets are the better deal.

paulk11087
 - Oct 23, 2007

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I know all of my friends that own blu ray players are just waiting it out until Transformers is released
on blu. Hopefully Mr. Bay will stick with blu this time and won't let us down later. Be a man Mr. Bay
and stick with it.

seto
 - Oct 24, 2007

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guess the effects of kool-aid only go so far -.^b

demoni
 - Oct 24, 2007

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Yep, I'm waiting this one out...

tomSlick
 - Oct 24, 2007

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time can be painful, but it will be endured for this movie to be on blu

BluWave
 - Oct 24, 2007

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Im betting that if you look at the numbers, it couldnt have been a banner day for HD-DVD when transformers released. I understand the movies impact on sales may have been huge, but the HD sales had to suffer because of not being on Blu. I went to Best buy the day of its release and it seemed almost everyone in line and walking around the store had one of the standard DVD versions. Myself being in the business understand that DVD will continue to outsell HD versions for a while, but tons of people I know and others I heard in the store that day were literally mad that it wasnt on Blu and I saw one guy walk away from the display empty handed after commenting that BD wasnt available. It probably would have been the best selling HD title ever release if it was on Blu. I hope that soon they will offer that version so I can give someone else my DVD one.

Cru Jones
 - Oct 24, 2007

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I watched Transformers on standard DVD, upscaled to 1080p through my PS3 and it looked phenomenal. It definitely didn't make me think "I better run out and buy an HD-DVD player so I can see it on HD-DVD."

wsanford000
 - Oct 25, 2007

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Michael Bay can't make up his mind...

olskool
 - Oct 25, 2007

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we all know well transformers on blu-ray would have been one nail in the coffin for the pesky hd-dud.
it didnt want to die honorably so it got transformers.....booo hooo blu-ray is still outselling u..lol
Bay is kool wit me i know hes pissed that his movie is not making more money by being on blu-ray.
paramount is the culprit behind all this.. hd-dud just die already!!! i still can believe i have to wait till
next fall for TF on blu-ray that was the bigest movie letdown for me.

Excalibur-king
 - Oct 25, 2007

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h-dvd is a joke. end of story.

Rene95012
 - Oct 25, 2007

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even though i bought it on DVD, the ps3 does a great job in upscaling the movie, it looks damn good, but i will still get it on blu-ray once it comes out for it. dumb ass paramount, what were they thinking? oh right, they weren't, their loss

transcension
 - Oct 25, 2007

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Michael Bay is probably completely on the Blu-Ray band wagon now that he has seen sales for the HD of Transformers. I would be pissed too if I was in his spot, and he is right. Consumers will wait until Transformers is on Blu-Ray, I know I am. Along with a few other movies, but I can do without them.

LotR B.D. would rok
 - Oct 26, 2007

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Yes, SDVD upconverted would be better than HD-DVD. Of course.

I can't believe you guys were calling me an HD-DVD lover when there are people like adevilnamedbueno out there.

tobyg
 - Oct 27, 2007

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The reason Bay sounds like he's flip-flopping is because Paramount is a business partner, and his gut
reaction to Paramount's whoring themselves out (while selling all of us out in the process) was less
than diplomatic. It's just good that he's on our side.

Are there *any* big directors on the other side??

LotR B.D. would rok
 - Oct 27, 2007

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apparently, Peter Jackson supports HD-DVD, but I'm not sure.

Blu-heaven
 - Oct 28, 2007

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HD DUD fanboys are joke (who think HD DVD is in par with Blu-ray)

spacejunky
 - Oct 30, 2007

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HD-DVD is on par with BR. I've only seen a few BR use H.264 and I can't see a quality difference between the MPEG-2 BR/HD-DVD or VC1 HD-DVD. The only difference I see is H.264 has a much larger file size and bit rate. I'm watching them on a 73" 1080p Mitsubishi DLP.

This war is far from over.
http://www.dailytech.com/WalMart+to+Carry+198+Toshiba+HD+DVD+Player/article9404.htm
Walmart just announced today that they are stocking up on $198 Toshiba HD-DVD players for Christmas. After this shopping season, HD-DVD will be well entrenched in the consumer market. It doesn't matter if it isn't the best HD player or not 1080p which doesn't even matter anyway as a 1080p display will upconvert a 30 Hz 1080i signal with most likely better upconverting chips than PS3 if the TV is a qualltiy piece of equipment.

Why do BR fanatics assume that more space equates to better quality movies? All it does is give more spam room to the publishers. I think this is why Paramount went exclusively to HD-DVD. I'm sure Sony wanted an arm and a leg in royalties but then gave the option to offset the costs with "their" premovie advertisements. Why would Paramount want to advertise the Spiderman trilogy "Coming Soon To Blu-Ray" for the life of the disk? You can't even skip the trailers and go straight to the menu. You have to chapter search every one of them. I hate it. I bet you can't wait for all the spam they will fit on the 100GB 4 layer discs. Maybe it won't all be spam. I really hope they make more dice games like in Pirates =0

When comparing the BR sales to HDDVD, don't forget that Sony has recruited Blockbuster into the consortium. How many stores does Blockbuster have to stock with BR discs not to mention having enough for online distribution. Don't talk so bad about Microsoft paying people off when Sony does the same thing. It's not bad, it's just business.

The only things I see as advantages to BR towards the movie producers is it is harder to crack the encryption (but this tends to punish some consumers with compatibility problems as well) and it gives them more room to promote their "own" trailers for a price.

If BR doesn't get in the sub $200 price range with a player soon, you can clear off the shelf next to your BetaMax player.

jdv77706
 - Oct 30, 2007

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yes!!! i am waiting to be released in blu ray!!! although, we have seen it again with regular dvd but i will buy it in blu ray!


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