Samsung will discontinue production of the BD-UP5000 Blu-ray and HD DVD dual format player in May, only months after it was initially released. After experiencing months of delays, the player was released with multiple disc compatibility issues. Owners continue to experience these problem, which some suggest includes all Fox titles that make use of BD+, and has yet to deliver on its high performance promises.
To further the confusion, Samsung has also stated that the recently announced BD-UP5500 would not be replacing the UP5000 as planned. That player was announced at CES (shortly after the UP5000 hit store shelves) and it appears that it might suffer from the same issues as the UP5000. It was set to be released during Q3, but plans now appear to have changed.
Engadget points to the Broadcom BCM97440 as the root of the issue, as both players utilize that platform (in addition to the LG BH200 dual format player). It will be interesting to see what direction Samsung moves for the second half of the year, but interestingly enough, a dual format player may still be in the works.
Edit: Samsung is still planning to release the BD-UP5500 as planned, but it will not be considered a replacement, but rather a budget model.
First, Samsung needs to get on the ball here.
Second, Samasung needs to drop the dual format idea, and just focus on Blu-ray. WB had a hard
enough time releasing titles to Blu-ray because they could not handle both HD formats, it sounds like
the same thing here.
Better to scrap it and start from scratch. I think HD-DVD owners will tend to gravitate to products like this after Blu officially wins, but not with those kinds of problems. I would't pay $700-$800 for something that malfunctions. Samsung really needs to get it's act together.
Well it seems to me that they will find few takers with To$h undercutting the market by dumping
their players. WHy deal with all the dual format player issues when you can get a solid BD player and a
firesale To$h for way less?
Who cares about a dual player? I wouldn't want to give any sort of support to the HD DVD camp. I say this is a good thing. Showing that the two can't coexist. Leaving it up to Social Darwinism; survival of the fittest, and we all know who that is ... Blu-ray!
I once considered buy a cheap HD DVD player just for Transformers, but I had a revelation. I can just record it in 1080p when it comes out on Showtime HD or HBO HD, then just store it on my 1TB external hard drive. Thats the way I've handled all of the other movies and TV series that are HD DVD exclusive. I've also done the same thing for films that have not been released on Blu-ray yet.
Oh, for a second, I thought something new was out. Dish only broadcasts, at most, 1080i, like the others, not 1080p. The only way you're getting 1080p for the foreseeable future is Blu-Ray, HD-DVD or a digital download, not OTA or through a provider.
I can imagine Toshiba being the only company releasing HD-DVD players and practically begging people to buy them. PLEASE buy or ailing player and the HD-DVD's for them even though we well know that Blu-ray has already won.
Abandoning a dual format player altogether like many of these posts just doesn't make any sense financially for Samsung. You already have a ton of sunk cost in r&d for the base models, why eat the entire cost? Especially considering the millions of hd-dvds out in the public that are going to need to be played on something.
Dual format players are going to be very attractive to those who chose incorrectly on which format to purchase. The "war" is over, this residual immaturity needs to end.
The good nuance of this announcement is that Samsung is admitting their player problems. Announcements would hav to come from upper management, so they are obviously aware of the BD-P1200 problems as well.
The hardware itself seems solid. Let's get some quality firmware pushed, please!
Heh. . . that's what you get when you cram too much tech into a blue laser player for HDM! I feel that their next best move (LG and Samsung's) would be to just drop support for the other format we do not speak of. That way they can focus more heavily on perfecting the Blu end of things.
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I said it from the begining, once you start to mix stuff together everything gets complicated. They should have pick a side and stick with it. Oh well, dont really care. Hopefully Samsung will be on the ball from now on about their BD players.
I got a 1400 to match my 46" 71 Series Samsung LCD... I went back to the PS3 because well, it's the
most gosh golly best blu-ray player out there... I can use the 1400 at Grandmas so I got something to
watch over there....
Samsung: As long as you continue to support the "other format", in any way, I will not be spending any of my money on any of your products...simple as that! When you decide to go Blu-only, then I might consider you. Goodbye!!!
Samsung makes some of the best LCD panels I have ever seen (disclaimer I own the LNT-4661F so I am biased) but their total lack of quality when it comes to BD players is atrocious! The BDP-1200 was awesome at upconverting DVDs but completely useless when attempting to play Pirates of the Caribbean (just to name one of many) on Blu-ray! The 1400 was another joke except this time it wasn't good at upconverting either! Now this dual format player is their latest dud. Samsung needs to step up their quality control and iron out the kinks to their lineup, and while they're at it make sure it can do BD Live too. I would be livid if I bought this or any other Blu-ray player from Samsung just to find out not all of my library is playable. I was hoping to get a stand-alone Sammy to go with my new TV so I could take advantage of their Anynet+, but with products like these I will steer clear from them until they get their act together! I wanted a Blu-ray player now, and I wanted to be sure it could do BD Live in the future, which is why I recently bought a PS3 40GB. It's whisper quiet, plays all my Blu-ray movies, serves as my media hub, and I can play video games on it, all for a price that is comparable with the current generation of stand-alone BD players out there that have problems like these. With the PS3 as an option, I don't know why anyone would choose anything else at a comparable price. Sorry Samsung, I wanted to get one of your players, but I am sooo glad I did not!
I was one who was waiting for this player since the summer when they announced it. At the time, hd-dvd had some good movies scheduled, though I would always be blu in my heart, but the Paramount decision is what made me really consider this player. The other thing that really was attractive to me was that it had the Reon HQV upscaler, plus ability to decode DTS Master and Dolby True and send those signals out of the analogs to a receiver without HDMI but that has 7.1 analog inputs, like mine. It really looked like a great piece of equipment, but obviously that was on paper.
I have been following the thread of the owners on the AVS forum, and the player won't play DTS Master at all or DTS HD, it only decodes Dolby True in 2-channel stereo, there are problems with blu-rays AND hd-dvd movies (don't let them blame the blu-rays, the threads read differently). People have had video noise here and there, and then audio noise at different times. So, that, in conjunction with the Warner announcement, made me realize that it's best to wait for the Panasonic BD50, which will have the analog outs (7.1). The problem with the Panny is that I think their upconversion is the worst of anyone's, and I really wanted the Reon for my dvd collection. I did own the Samsung 1200 for 3 weeks, and returned it because of the reported problems, but I did like the Reon. But I do have to say that the upscaling of the PS3 comes darn close to the Reon.
I wish others would use the Reon for a reasonable price. Doesn't seem to be happening. Samsung was supposed to have the 2400, but they cancelled it to pay more attention to the 5000. Perhaps they just felt that working out new firmware to fix all these problems was not worth it since hd-dvd is in dire trouble. Maybe they will issue the 2400, though I would have to think twice about a Samsung after the 1200 and 5000 problems. They get the ideas beautifully, if only they would implement them correctly.
I am a fan of the idea of High definition media - i have both formats with mutliple players from both sides. In terms of picture quality there is no difference. If the stdio takes the time to ensure the transfer is good - there is no difference. I will say that i like both formats but i like HD DVD better as i have yet had to download anything to watch any film. As a consumer, i should be able to purchase a movie in the store, pop it in and watch. I have had to wait several weeks in some cases for a firmware update for movies to play in blu-ray. The standard for HD DVD is one format, one codec across the board. Blu Ray is all over the board with different companies using different software etc.
It semms as though Blu-ray will win and i am fine with that only if they learn to create a standard like that of HD DVD, where you can watch it immediately after you purchase it. That is to only real downside to Sony's format.
If it were up to me i woulf like to see all HD content on HD DVD as it is far more consumer friendly.
As for Blu-ray - I am tired of buying new equipment every 6 months to keep up with a format that should standardized by now - My first HD DVD player has had no updates and still plays everything that the new one does - I can't say the same for my Blu-Ray equipment.