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Samsung to Discontinue BD-UP5000 in May

Posted January 23, 2008 01:31 PM by Josh Dreuth

Samsung BD-P1200Samsung will discontinue production of the BD-UP5000 Blu-ray and HD DVD dual format player in May, only months after it was initially released. After experiencing months of delays, the player was released with multiple disc compatibility issues. Owners continue to experience these problem, which some suggest includes all Fox titles that make use of BD+, and has yet to deliver on its high performance promises.

To further the confusion, Samsung has also stated that the recently announced BD-UP5500 would not be replacing the UP5000 as planned. That player was announced at CES (shortly after the UP5000 hit store shelves) and it appears that it might suffer from the same issues as the UP5000. It was set to be released during Q3, but plans now appear to have changed.

Engadget points to the Broadcom BCM97440 as the root of the issue, as both players utilize that platform (in addition to the LG BH200 dual format player). It will be interesting to see what direction Samsung moves for the second half of the year, but interestingly enough, a dual format player may still be in the works.

Edit: Samsung is still planning to release the BD-UP5500 as planned, but it will not be considered a replacement, but rather a budget model.


Source: Engadget | Permalink | United States [Country settings]

News comments (59 comments)



Amel
  Jan 23, 2008
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dissapointment!

Cory108
  Jan 23, 2008
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It is disappointing.

ericede
  Jan 23, 2008
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Oppps

eeyria
  Jan 23, 2008
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They will move in the right direction BLU only. They will get rid of HD (highly dumb)

CptGreedle
  Jan 23, 2008
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First, Samsung needs to get on the ball here.
Second, Samasung needs to drop the dual format idea, and just focus on Blu-ray. WB had a hard
enough time releasing titles to Blu-ray because they could not handle both HD formats, it sounds like
the same thing here.

Amel
  Jan 23, 2008
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no they dont

Samsung has great electronic devices, this one unfortunately failed!

Sonny
  Jan 23, 2008
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They need to get Blu right first! I have a few 1400's So I know! Thanks

181
  Jan 23, 2008
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This is great news. We don't need a dual format player.

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Bluray_ne1
  Jan 23, 2008
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Better to scrap it and start from scratch. I think HD-DVD owners will tend to gravitate to products like this after Blu officially wins, but not with those kinds of problems. I would't pay $700-$800 for something that malfunctions. Samsung really needs to get it's act together.

Amel
  Jan 23, 2008
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sonny, you edited your first message, you devil!

Sonny
  Jan 23, 2008
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I hit Delete instead of Edit...they still stink lol:) . We dont need combo players anyway.

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Blu Titan
  Jan 23, 2008
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They need to make some quality BD players. Dual format players should be left for To$h!

Luis_A51
  Jan 23, 2008
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Im glad both are being canned. We do not need dual format players.

Sonny
  Jan 23, 2008
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YUP!!!!

garak
  Jan 23, 2008
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Good Riddance. I owned the BD-P1200, and it was the biggest POS I've ever had. The fewer Samsuck BD/Combo players on the market the better.

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mr.hidef
  Jan 23, 2008
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Samsung needs to up their game!!!..........come on they are soooooo slow with issuing their firmware upgrades for the










bdP1000, and all other players.........they have almost been a joke lately! It's like you go blow 800 dollars on one of their players and they leave you in the dark.

sj001
  Jan 23, 2008
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Dual format, good-bye. Let's get some more BD players out there Samsung!

eat_me_cool
  Jan 23, 2008
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Another nail in the HD-DVD coffin. There will be no further development of dual format players and HD-DVD will have to depend on Toshiba from here on.

Toshiba's dual format Blu-ray player has just receded further into the future.

Zaphod
  Jan 23, 2008
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So what is this, this HD-DVD that they speak of? :')
kjmars
  Jan 23, 2008
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That sucks. I was thinking about it.
ezcobar411
  Jan 23, 2008
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Hopefully companies will stop producing these things. There is no need when there is only one format anyway

bluflu
  Jan 23, 2008
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Scrap this abomination Samsung and concentrate on making a good Blu-ray player. Besides, there isn't much need for the HD DVD half anymore.

richteer
  Jan 23, 2008
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More good news for HD DVD! :-)

Marcsten
  Jan 23, 2008
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Well it seems to me that they will find few takers with To$h undercutting the market by dumping
their players. WHy deal with all the dual format player issues when you can get a solid BD player and a
firesale To$h for way less?

PLASMA-1080P-FULLHD
  Jan 23, 2008
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Samsung make pretty good TV just not other stuffs. trust me. They need to stop those stupid dual format thing. It is not working. Come on, Show us ur true color samsung

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Guinness7
  Jan 23, 2008
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Looks like that did not last to long.

tricky
  Jan 23, 2008
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Who cares about a dual player? I wouldn't want to give any sort of support to the HD DVD camp. I say this is a good thing. Showing that the two can't coexist. Leaving it up to Social Darwinism; survival of the fittest, and we all know who that is ... Blu-ray!

I once considered buy a cheap HD DVD player just for Transformers, but I had a revelation. I can just record it in 1080p when it comes out on Showtime HD or HBO HD, then just store it on my 1TB external hard drive. Thats the way I've handled all of the other movies and TV series that are HD DVD exclusive. I've also done the same thing for films that have not been released on Blu-ray yet.
Ice2Dragon
  Jan 23, 2008
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I can see why they would discontinue it.. it was terrible to begin with! So many errors and bugs that couldn't or wouldn't get fixed.. and the price.. jeez -_-V
mightypen
  Jan 23, 2008
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Tricky-

Which provider are you using that you get 1080p from HBO or Showtime?

tricky
  Jan 23, 2008
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Dish Network | VIP 722

I do stand corrected, its 1080i; still better than supporting HD DVD or having the title in crappy standard definition on a DVD.
JT_Designer
  Jan 23, 2008
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It's good that this player has problems! I would rather back Blu-ray exclusivly than back both formats and continute this dumb format war.

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crystal_sun
  Jan 23, 2008
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another sign of HD-DVD bye bye.... Universal and Paramount...you shall continue to lose money if you stay with a dead format. I hope both CEO gets fired for their decision.
mightypen
  Jan 23, 2008
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Tricky-

Oh, for a second, I thought something new was out. Dish only broadcasts, at most, 1080i, like the others, not 1080p. The only way you're getting 1080p for the foreseeable future is Blu-Ray, HD-DVD or a digital download, not OTA or through a provider.

RickD
  Jan 23, 2008
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Maybe now Samsung can concentrate on getting out a firmware update for the 1200.
JT_Designer
  Jan 23, 2008
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I can imagine Toshiba being the only company releasing HD-DVD players and practically begging people to buy them. PLEASE buy or ailing player and the HD-DVD's for them even though we well know that Blu-ray has already won.

saginawjuggalo
  Jan 23, 2008
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Bummer... what a shame :-/

saljr
  Jan 23, 2008
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What was Samsung think dual format player. Wake up and smell the coffee.
mightypen
  Jan 23, 2008
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Abandoning a dual format player altogether like many of these posts just doesn't make any sense financially for Samsung. You already have a ton of sunk cost in r&d for the base models, why eat the entire cost? Especially considering the millions of hd-dvds out in the public that are going to need to be played on something.

Dual format players are going to be very attractive to those who chose incorrectly on which format to purchase. The "war" is over, this residual immaturity needs to end.
flbeachlf
  Jan 23, 2008
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The good nuance of this announcement is that Samsung is admitting their player problems. Announcements would hav to come from upper management, so they are obviously aware of the BD-P1200 problems as well.

The hardware itself seems solid. Let's get some quality firmware pushed, please!

Excalibur-king
  Jan 23, 2008
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This was a stupid idea in the 1st place, h dvd was always a dead format.

bicclick2002
  Jan 23, 2008
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Heh. . . that's what you get when you cram too much tech into a blue laser player for HDM! I feel that their next best move (LG and Samsung's) would be to just drop support for the other format we do not speak of. That way they can focus more heavily on perfecting the Blu end of things.

Great news! Gotta love blu-ray.com! Thanks for submission ; )

little_boy_blu
  Jan 23, 2008
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Why make a dual format player at this point? Makes no sense.

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dobyblue
  Jan 23, 2008
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Everyone knows that combo HD DVD/Blu-ray players are for the birds.

Papi4baby
  Jan 23, 2008
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I said it from the begining, once you start to mix stuff together everything gets complicated. They should have pick a side and stick with it. Oh well, dont really care. Hopefully Samsung will be on the ball from now on about their BD players.

kaliraver
  Jan 23, 2008
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Samsung & LG both need to become Blu exclusive and fix the issues they have with their Blu-Ray players. Samsung is the worst company right now that releases Blu-Ray players!

view_it
  Jan 23, 2008
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So SAMSUNG know everything ....

and what will be the Future ??!!!

High DEF BLURAY as like super resolution film or 3d movie at your living-room sofa ?!
WITH 500 GB - 1 Terra PER FILM ...

so the future is the MONEY MONEY MONEY as when you fight in a war - you need money money money (Pink Floyd)

.... WHERE IS THE CUSTOMER , WHO USE THESE PRODUCTS at him/her home !!

Mr. Joshua
  Jan 23, 2008
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I got a 1400 to match my 46" 71 Series Samsung LCD... I went back to the PS3 because well, it's the
most gosh golly best blu-ray player out there... I can use the 1400 at Grandmas so I got something to
watch over there....
moverob
  Jan 23, 2008
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Samsung: As long as you continue to support the "other format", in any way, I will not be spending any of my money on any of your products...simple as that! When you decide to go Blu-only, then I might consider you. Goodbye!!!
beavis667
  Jan 23, 2008
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Good deal. This player would ultimately help HD-DVD survive.

johnnymech
  Jan 23, 2008
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Can the Samsung player play both Blu-ray movies and "Burnout Paradise"? No? PS3 can.
thebluemax
  Jan 23, 2008
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They were in the right direction to begin with BD. Whatever motivated Samsung to make a combo? Bad decision!

Randall
  Jan 23, 2008
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Samsung makes some of the best LCD panels I have ever seen (disclaimer I own the LNT-4661F so I am biased) but their total lack of quality when it comes to BD players is atrocious! The BDP-1200 was awesome at upconverting DVDs but completely useless when attempting to play Pirates of the Caribbean (just to name one of many) on Blu-ray! The 1400 was another joke except this time it wasn't good at upconverting either! Now this dual format player is their latest dud. Samsung needs to step up their quality control and iron out the kinks to their lineup, and while they're at it make sure it can do BD Live too. I would be livid if I bought this or any other Blu-ray player from Samsung just to find out not all of my library is playable. I was hoping to get a stand-alone Sammy to go with my new TV so I could take advantage of their Anynet+, but with products like these I will steer clear from them until they get their act together! I wanted a Blu-ray player now, and I wanted to be sure it could do BD Live in the future, which is why I recently bought a PS3 40GB. It's whisper quiet, plays all my Blu-ray movies, serves as my media hub, and I can play video games on it, all for a price that is comparable with the current generation of stand-alone BD players out there that have problems like these. With the PS3 as an option, I don't know why anyone would choose anything else at a comparable price. Sorry Samsung, I wanted to get one of your players, but I am sooo glad I did not!

Robert Siegel
  Jan 23, 2008
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I was one who was waiting for this player since the summer when they announced it. At the time, hd-dvd had some good movies scheduled, though I would always be blu in my heart, but the Paramount decision is what made me really consider this player. The other thing that really was attractive to me was that it had the Reon HQV upscaler, plus ability to decode DTS Master and Dolby True and send those signals out of the analogs to a receiver without HDMI but that has 7.1 analog inputs, like mine. It really looked like a great piece of equipment, but obviously that was on paper.

I have been following the thread of the owners on the AVS forum, and the player won't play DTS Master at all or DTS HD, it only decodes Dolby True in 2-channel stereo, there are problems with blu-rays AND hd-dvd movies (don't let them blame the blu-rays, the threads read differently). People have had video noise here and there, and then audio noise at different times. So, that, in conjunction with the Warner announcement, made me realize that it's best to wait for the Panasonic BD50, which will have the analog outs (7.1). The problem with the Panny is that I think their upconversion is the worst of anyone's, and I really wanted the Reon for my dvd collection. I did own the Samsung 1200 for 3 weeks, and returned it because of the reported problems, but I did like the Reon. But I do have to say that the upscaling of the PS3 comes darn close to the Reon.

I wish others would use the Reon for a reasonable price. Doesn't seem to be happening. Samsung was supposed to have the 2400, but they cancelled it to pay more attention to the 5000. Perhaps they just felt that working out new firmware to fix all these problems was not worth it since hd-dvd is in dire trouble. Maybe they will issue the 2400, though I would have to think twice about a Samsung after the 1200 and 5000 problems. They get the ideas beautifully, if only they would implement them correctly.

lgans316
  Jan 24, 2008
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Disappointing.
xwingsct
  Jan 24, 2008
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Why buy a dual format player when you can get two players for cheap. Haven't they read the news?

Malosch78
  Jan 24, 2008
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Dual format? Is there another format out there?

PLASMA-1080P-FULLHD
  Jan 24, 2008
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SAMSUNG has just shown their "TRUE COLOR" which is purple so is the LG. They just sucks! LG even make a dual format computer drive. What the hell is for?

mustang750r
  Jan 24, 2008
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bye bye dual format hello blu-ray
beedub
  Jan 24, 2008
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I am a fan of the idea of High definition media - i have both formats with mutliple players from both sides. In terms of picture quality there is no difference. If the stdio takes the time to ensure the transfer is good - there is no difference. I will say that i like both formats but i like HD DVD better as i have yet had to download anything to watch any film. As a consumer, i should be able to purchase a movie in the store, pop it in and watch. I have had to wait several weeks in some cases for a firmware update for movies to play in blu-ray. The standard for HD DVD is one format, one codec across the board. Blu Ray is all over the board with different companies using different software etc.

It semms as though Blu-ray will win and i am fine with that only if they learn to create a standard like that of HD DVD, where you can watch it immediately after you purchase it. That is to only real downside to Sony's format.

If it were up to me i woulf like to see all HD content on HD DVD as it is far more consumer friendly.

As for Blu-ray - I am tired of buying new equipment every 6 months to keep up with a format that should standardized by now - My first HD DVD player has had no updates and still plays everything that the new one does - I can't say the same for my Blu-Ray equipment.


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